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  • Hmmm I was expecting a more defensive mathematical-logic-conditioned reply but never mind!!Don't underestimate those plus and minus signs since they represent your logic and if you do so, in a way you invalidate your logic,lol which is not what you would like to see here, right?

    Understanding Qrratugai's viewpoint is not as hard as you are trying to potray it. Both of us, in essence, believe in the equality of religions. The biggest confusion that you have is that of the meaning of equality which obviously in not that important since you are more concerned about my marathon (what's up with the running,girl?lol)

    FYI, I have read not only your posts but of others as well. I know your argument very well (so now you don't have to repeat it for me but thanks a lot) and I tried my level best to understand it. I found it quite self-contradictory in nature but of course as long as you keep a biased approach, you will never see the other side of the image.

    P.S. have fun with in heaven on behalf as well



    Originally posted by Afghanlady

    Don't worry about myself Guley, Afghanlady was pretty good in school.

    That made me laugh Gulalai you put this smirk on my face with that silly equation.Before you assign your own Plus and Minuses lets give it another try since apparently you have a difficulty in understanding this, I hope you don't run away but lets go first of, I never knew this is such a hard concept. But I will try it again with you.

    Firstly, before you begin this conversation you need to realize 2 things.

    1)Qrratugai is a self-proclaimed Muslim.(unlike you, which mean she thinks Islam is the truth and only the truth to heaven).

    She said clearly several times all religions are equal. several times, Me and Momin after we finished laughing we began to play with her flawed logic[which result to her departure] We said okay if thats true what do you have to say about this, that, this that. to which she ignored a hand ful of the problems.

    Now if you want to look at this from an Islamic stance its really simple not hard at all, Islam claims to be the truth, only the truth and nothing short but the truth. Islam teaches us to follow the Quran and only the Quran.

    To imply that all Religions are equal you are clearly as a Muslim contradicting the above. You can say they are similar but not equal.

    If you think they are equal, Next time Qrratugai fills up an application and it asks for her Religion for survery purposes she should check mark all 5. cause according to her, all are equal.

    Now you are here in defence and obviously to you they are all wrong, they all cancel out etc, etc.

    To defend myself I used my points listed above in several posts. Please do me a huge favor and look at all the posts made me here. You are making me repeat everything I said already.

    I'm sorry, but I have to go to heaven. I'm not so fond of hell. So you can go ahead and have fun with the Sardar Jiis, Me and Momin will pass. Thanks anyways Guley! :D
    "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
    "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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    • MWMN! that was a real bummer for you, isn't it?

      I am proud of my belief and I maintain it where ever I go!

      Long live the great apes!
      Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
      What I find weird and I can't seem to wrap my head around it is that Qrratagai is happy that Gulalai is on her side when Gulalai calls the Existence of God a fairy tale.

      Girl, you have really stoop low, I would not have expected that from you.
      "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
      "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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      • Originally posted by gulalai View Post
        MWMN! that was a real bummer for you, isn't it?

        I am proud of my belief and I maintain it where ever I go!

        Long live the great apes!
        would you be offended if I referred to you as bizogai?
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        • Originally posted by gulalai View Post
          MWMN! that was a real bummer for you, isn't it?

          I am proud of my belief and I maintain it where ever I go!

          Long live the great apes!


          It is your life, why would I care?
          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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          • I think some people do not have any idea how obnoxious they come across when they talk about people in a thread and say "Oh I guess so & so is scared to reply or we got so & so cornered now or making fun of who takes so & so's side." These "debates" as you all call them are far from appearing friendly. I think I should be able to express my opinion without someone calling me arrogant or questioning my faith. I guess I'm weak/cowardly or whatever in most of your eyes since I don't appreciate how many of you "debate" here. I find it shocking and disturbing that some here are incapable of saying "Okay that is your opinion and I respect that but this is mine........ now let's MOVE ON!"

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            • Qrratugai khore,

              the question that i want answered is: Do you believe Islam to be correct?

              This is what I have been asking for. If you have already answered it (i can't find it), please accept my apologies and answer it again.

              Perhaps, I am misunderstanding your definition of "equal." However, this question will open up the idea more.
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • Originally posted by Musafira View Post
                I think some people do not have any idea how obnoxious they come across when they talk about people in a thread and say "Oh I guess so & so is scared to reply or we got so & so cornered now or making fun of who takes so & so's side." These "debates" as you all call them are far from appearing friendly. I think I should be able to express my opinion without someone calling me arrogant or questioning my faith. I guess I'm weak/cowardly or whatever in most of your eyes since I don't appreciate how many of you "debate" here. I find it shocking and disturbing that some here are incapable of saying "Okay that is your opinion and I respect that but this is mine........ now let's MOVE ON!"
                Oh, thank God you exist, Musafirey!

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                • Lol..You and MWMN are so manipulative to the extent that now you even made a claim that I have insulted Islam.Not that I have any fears (fear, remember?) but that you are lying and Islam forbids from lying and hence you don't want to lose your trip to paradise with MWMN so do not try this lame tactic.

                  Secondly, all religions are man-made since men devised them. How would have you know about God if prophets were not there? I mean the prophets were the one who conveyed the message of God so there is an important role of humans.And since man is a human, therefore, man made the religion...hence man-made religion. Now what's so confusing? lol

                  FYI: Dictionary meaning of man-made: "Made by humans rather than occurring in nature; synthetic: man-made fibers; a manmade lake"

                  Originally posted by Afghanlady
                  our soon to be Islamic writer is thanking a post of Gulalai in which she insults Islam and calls it a man-made religion.

                  Ya Allah madad.
                  "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
                  "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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                  • Originally posted by gulalai View Post
                    Lol..You and MWMN are so manipulative to the extent that now you even made a claim that I have insulted Islam.Not that I have any fears (fear, remember?) but that you are lying and Islam forbids from lying and hence you don't want to lose your trip to paradise with MWMN so do not try this lame tactic.

                    Secondly, all religions are man-made since men devised them. How would have you know about God if prophets were not there? I mean the prophets were the one who conveyed the message of God so there is an important role of humans.And since man is a human, therefore, man made the religion...hence man-made religion. Now what's so confusing? lol

                    FYI: Dictionary meaning of man-made: "Made by humans rather than occurring in nature; synthetic: man-made fibers; a manmade lake"
                    Breath.
                    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                    • Originally posted by Qrratugai
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                      None of your previous posts were as clear as this one. You did not hold back. You said it all. Thank you.

                      Now allow me to respond.
                      Last edited by Guest; 07-24-2010, 01:39 AM.
                      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                      • How dare you? God only speaks in cryptic language to prophets in hidden places where there is no one else around so as to verify the truth. That's why it's called faith. When the boy cries wolf, you run for it.




                        Originally posted by gulalai View Post
                        Lol..You and MWMN are so manipulative to the extent that now you even made a claim that I have insulted Islam.Not that I have any fears (fear, remember?) but that you are lying and Islam forbids from lying and hence you don't want to lose your trip to paradise with MWMN so do not try this lame tactic.

                        Secondly, all religions are man-made since men devised them. How would have you know about God if prophets were not there? I mean the prophets were the one who conveyed the message of God so there is an important role of humans.And since man is a human, therefore, man made the religion...hence man-made religion. Now what's so confusing? lol

                        FYI: Dictionary meaning of man-made: "Made by humans rather than occurring in nature; synthetic: man-made fibers; a manmade lake"
                        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                        • Qrratugai, why did you delete my post?
                          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                          • Please put your post back. That was very dishonest of you. There was a reason why you were not answering the question. The post actually revealed a lot.

                            Please put it back. You had no right to delete it from my quote. Put it back.

                            You are being very dishonest.

                            People are accusing us of going in circles, but it is you who is leading us in circles.

                            Please put it back. Otherwise, it shows you are abusing your powers of moderator.
                            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                            • Originally posted by Qrratugai
                              I thought I already explained that it's futile to get into a discussion with people who don't listen or who make too many assumptions.

                              But I'm still hoping to get an answer to my question about HOW does a religion become superior to all others just because of its teachings and/or practices. I'm willing to hear you because I cannot imagine ANY religion being superior to other -- since all are equal. So if you want, you may explain this to me.

                              Okay, let's begin with your indoctrination.

                              Qrratugai, can you please define Imaan?

                              If you draw a picture at the end of your essay, you will get a star and a smiley.
                              "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                              "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                              • Dearest brother/sister, can you find the related verses for me to prove your stance? plus do you believe in Holy Quran or Bible? Do you think that it suits the future Islamic Scholar like Qrratugai to say thanks to Gulalai who thinks that apes should live long? More impotantly, do you believe in the existence of God, dearest sister/brother?Answers require detailed citing with relevent examples when needed.Menena.

                                P.S. Great one as usual!

                                Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                                How dare you? God only speaks in cryptic language to prophets in hidden places where there is no one else around so as to verify the truth. That's why it's called faith. When the boy cries wolf, you run for it.
                                "O Pakhtuns!, Your house has fallen into ruin, let us rebuild it".
                                "I want to see my people educated and enlightened. A people with a vision and a strong sense of justice, who can carve out a future for themselves in harmony with nature".

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