Islam is just a religion like any other religion

[شمله ور خراساني]

LOL at ordinary people.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Islam = The Truth. (according to Muslims) ----(eq 1)
Hinduism = Not the truth(according to Muslim)---(eq 2)

Combining (1) and (2)

Yes (islam--truth) + =No (hinduism)not the truth - (minus)

+ and - cancels each other and we are left with zero.Zero means absence and hence we are left with no Islam or Hinduism but ZERO. Watch out Afghanlady! you were implying kuffar here??

Qrratagai brought his whole equation business forward.

I don't follow your equation. Spell it out. It is too confusing to follow. Keep your variables consistent.

[شمله ور خراساني]

We have had a positive influence on Qrratugai's mind since she is now slowly changing her stance from that flawed post of hers in which said, "All Religions are equal".

you have helped her out to return back to islam. In Islam people who give dawah to such people and correct their heresy are considered as champions of Islam!

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

What I find weird and I can't seem to wrap my head around it is that Qrratagai is happy that Gulalai is on her side when Gulalai calls the Existence of God a fairy tale.

Girl, you have really stoop low, I would not have expected that from you.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Have you noticed she still has not answered my question. I posted for her again, so that she would not have to go look for it.

If she wishes she does not have to answer, but at least don't preach this flawed logic either.

[PFgulalai]

Well first of all my belief has nothing to do with my statement that "all religions are equal". Second, the topic here is not "about the existence of God" or "the falsification or truth of religions on the basis of God", if I address your curiosity specifically.
Let me simplify it for you..religions (which are ofcourse man-made) are invented and developed through same mechanism, only the ingredients/elements are different. Hence they are not similar (because the elements are different) but they are equal (since their purpose is the same). I don't think that any religion in this world is perfect and hence will make it superior to all other religions. They are all man-made, so how come they could be perfect?

The rest MWMN you are stressing yourself too much about my belief system. Don't worry! it won't harm anyone like some of the believers have done

Gulaila, why is it that you don't believe in God? Is it safe to assume that you view all religions equal because they are all man-made and all are false anyways?

[JAMALUDEEN]

Alright Ladies and Gents, I think that is enough for today. Let her go

Another reminder -- You guys have jumped off-topic.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

^Gulalai, why are you always defensive?

Qrratagai, why do you follow religion? According to the expert on religion, God does not exist and religion is man-made.

[Roshina]

We have had a positive influence on Qrratugai's mind since she is now slowly changing her stance from that flawed post of hers in which said, "All Religions are equal".

Untrue: I still believe that all religions are equal -- and they are. Do consider reading my (complete) previous post for a better understanding. And remember that you've to prove me wrong for me to change my stance, which you haven't done so far. I've no reason to change my position at all.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Qrratagai, do you believe that Islam is the correct religion? Yes or No. How hard is it to answer this question?

It will shed a lot of light with respect to your stance.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Qrratugai, i think you have made up your mind. Even in case proven wrong, It will not alter your belief or change your mind to accept it (Trust me on this, i have experience) LOL. So this discussion is going no-where but in circles.

Please guys save your mental energy for another topic. Perhaps for a topic that we will all agree on. I doubt though that you can learn much from forums but the ideas etc... are mind blowing...

Anywho
Have fun in here Guys......

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Thats how she always is, you just have to ignore the defensive side and look for her point.

Momin I am starting to put 2 and 2 together, do you follow?

our soon to be Islamic writer is thanking a post of Gulalai in which she insults Islam and calls it a man-made religion.

Ya Allah madad.

Truly depressing. I once compared Qrratgai to Irshad Manji and she took offense, yet here we have someone, gulalai, who is not only calling religion man-made but is denying the existence of God, and Qrrtagai is happy to have her as a cheerleader.

I dont' get it?

I don't have a problem with people and their religious association or whether they believe in God or not. That is a personal matter. However, to be happy that you are being encouraged by someone who rejects anything religious is just incredible.

I don't have a problem with Qrratagai and her stance, but I just hope she does not teach people this and present it as an Islamic concept.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

Please don't mock. A kind request.

What is the definition of: iman?

A thousand apologies.

I read this page and know what Imaan is. Now what?

Summarize it in your own words, kindly.

Blind faith.

Not your opinion, dearest brother. What is the definition of: iman?

Imaan is to have faith and trust in God and to do as he says and to believe what he says you should believe. Because Big Brother is always watching.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Why did you copy and paste the link to that site when you did not have a look at it yourself first? Very dishonest.

Mocking is one thing, however, make sure you don't shoot yourself in the foot.

Is it safe to say that you have "blindly" rejected God?

What is Imaan?

Nope. It's not something that occurred to me one fine morning.

Dearest brother, I am requesting you to define it in your own words. It would make the discussion more fruitful.

Dearest brother and apple of my eye, for me, Imaan can only be defined as unquestioned adherence aka blind faith. I cannot define it in any other way.

Dearest brother, that is your opinion.

What is the definition of iman? Why are you so hesitant? I think you are blind to its real definition.

You don't have to agree with its definition, but what is the definition of iman? It should not be that hard.

Please enlighten me as to what Imaan really is.

Tell us what you know so far.

Dearest sister, I have exhausted myself and as you can see, I have tried to define Imaan multiple times only to be told to redefine it. It is your turn to tell me what it is.

As for dearest brother, is it something specific that you want me to say so that you can say, "Gotcha!". If so, tell me and I will type it. This circular debate is great fun but it is taking important web-space of the internets.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

^No, dear brother. I don't do that.

Anyhow, I find that we have killed this thread. It has gone out of control.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

^No, dear brother. I don't do that.

Anyhow, I find that we have killed this thread. It has gone out of control.

Then you and I should start another thread. Like Adam and Eve... I mean Steve... or Aadam and Arshadullah Baig.