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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shah Jamshyd
    If God exists, then he is very cruel.
    If He does not exist, then who is cruel?
    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
      In your opinion, are they all correct?
      In my opinion, they are all incorrect.



      Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
      How about converts?
      Few and far between.



      Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
      Does that make their religion correct?
      No, it only makes their indoctrination strong. Repeat a lie enough times and it becomes the 'truth' to you.


      Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
      Is your god the true God? Can you please give us a description of your god.
      My God is the true God unless you can prove that he doesn't exist. Description: He is beyond human comprehension.

      Originally posted by Waziristan
      Jamshayda
      he exists and he is the best.
      If anyone's the best, Waziristana, it's you.
      Last edited by Levanaye Zalmaye; 07-29-2010, 10:30 PM.
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

      "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
        In my opinion, they are all incorrect.
        Few and far between.
        No, it only makes their indoctrination strong. Repeat a lie enough times and it becomes the 'truth' to you.
        My God is the true God unless you can prove that he doesn't exist. Description: He is beyond human comprehension.
        If anyone's the best, Waziristana, it's you.

        If they are all incorrect then how does it makes yours the correct one? How could it indoctrination when you don't believe in God?
        Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

        [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

        [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
          If they are all incorrect then how does it makes yours the correct one? How could it indoctrination when you don't believe in God?
          My Teapot is the true deity because no one can prove that it does not exist and when they can't prove it does not exist, that only confirms its existence. We've been using teapots since I was born. That's strong indoctrination.
          "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

          "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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          • #20
            But you said all gods are fake,so how is it that indoctrination did not affect you?
            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
              But you said all gods are fake,so how is it that indoctrination did not affect you?
              Of course all gods are fake, mine being the only exception. It's got more to do with the fact that my teapot's existence cannot be disproved than the indoctrination.
              "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

              "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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              • #22
                Rephrase please.
                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                  Rephrase please.
                  Dearest and most beloved brother, thou art the breath in my lungs, of course all gods are fake, mine being the only exception. It's got more to do with the fact that my teapot's existence cannot be disproved than the indoctrination.
                  "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                  "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                  • #24
                    Rephrase this:

                    It's got more to do with the fact that my teapot's existence cannot be disproved than the indoctrination.
                    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                    • #25
                      Those who go to hell are those who die with no Ambition

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                      • #26
                        God is a compound power with no physical essence or entity.. the definition of existence does not solely depend on these two aspects.

                        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                        • #27
                          If god exists why is there so much suffering? If god is all powerful, controls everything why would god let innocent people die in war, natural disasters, let children suffer from horrific diseases, etc..if god is all loving why would there be so much hate in the world. If god is the highest power why are we instructed to worship that god?

                          Why are the most religious societies suffering the most from poverty, death and narrow closed minds.

                          Why are the least religious societies, richer, free, more compassionate, more giving, more equal.

                          There I said it.

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                          • #28
                            ayub khana,

                            if God did not exist who would you blame the above on?
                            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                            • #29
                              May be God knows of greater pains than that of loss of innocent people so in comparison it's not that much.

                              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                              • #30
                                momin,,dazahrojaaam;

                                Does that mean god exists but is evil...if he doesn't have sufficient moral grounds for allowing suffering?

                                What is greater than the loss of an innocent life?

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