why Creationism is farcical and Evolution is a meritable Scientific Concept

[graveyardofempires]

I'm not trying tod derail you I"m trying to help you liberate yourself from Christian Creationism.

I like how you ask me for a transitional form, but don't even know what one is LOL

i knwo what it is and i didnt ask for definition but show me one of them.

ofcourse like mountain goat you want to act like a broken record.

[graveyardofempires]

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define a transitional form; and define what sort of phenotypical and genotypical attributes would a transitional form have,


no need to define the question was to show me one since you already know the definition.


You're way more American than I am, You're arguing ideas that CHRISTIAN creationists use to deny Evolution. You're following Christianity now.

Orely


You're jahil because you follow what people tell you ABOUT the Qur'an than what the Qur'an ACTUALLY says

you dont mean that do you ,joker.
I have caught you several times claiming something is "Unislamic" and showed you ahadith about how something doesn't actually contradict Islam.
tell me why our Prophet (saw) didnt teach us evolution since its so important for your deen?
how about all the Ulama,why wont they accept it as fact?

This is no different; you blindly follow people and not Islam.
and you follow monkeys

Who told you that? Harun Yahya? I bet you don't even know how to define what a transitional form would be. If you do, then please tell us what are the characteristics which would necessitate something to be a transitional form. What ratio of uncertainity between the parent form and successor form would a transitional form have to have.
how about you show me a transitional form.
But dont worry I already know you're just google searching and spewing nonsense creationist sites use.

irrelevant





Unislamic according to who? Where does the Qur'an say that these stories are LITERAL , where does the Qur'an say that scientific evidence which corroborates evolution is blasphemous?

Dont abuse Quran


Go look it up yourself, Evolutionists never said we came from Monkeys they say we came from primates. look at the Evolutionary Tree for Monkeys and Humans.

where did the primates came from?

where is the transitional form?

how come we have pairs?

[کیش]

see you're admitting that you didn't answer my question.

because in this question, there is nothing about asking you if you think evolution is true or if creationism is false. I am simply asking you a question about what is important to you.

you keep evading it by saying something irrelevant.

I don't dodge your question ......but you keep using this question to avoid mine ....that's why I won't get distracted

remember I ASKED YOU FIRST, so my question needs to be answered first

now stop being afraid of me......

Look boy, nobody is dodging your question. I have answered it 7 times. If your blind, I apologize.

Stop running away, and answer mines. All you doing is acting like a baby, cause I didn't give an answer you wanted.

The truth is belief. My beliefs are true. If you can't comprehend that maybe you need to learn how to read, not motion read.


Looks like your throwing christianity card again.

[khushal]

This thread is an utter failure because everyone involved in this debate is too ignorant to know better.
I like how each one of you tries to give a summary of what has been discussed every 10 posts...as if the posts have vanished and your misconceived version is "The Truth".
Fact of the matter is that neither ****mitar nor kish nor kusal or anyone else knows here knows what either Qur'an says or Evolution says. They just have rehearsed lines that they keep repeating over and over. Associating irrelevant things with evolution...seriously what does suicide bombings have to do with evolution? This farcical thread has been intentionally created for the psychological venting that mr.****mitarsexedge is in desperate need of. The poor lad needs to stir up animosity in order to reaffirm his heretical and "individualistic" mind set on profound philosophical issues beyound his grasp in order to make up for his shortcomings in life. Suffice it to say that he has found his equals here. Here he can pretend to be the paragon of science on the verge of purging religion with his exact rationalism and appropriating to it a western structure so that he may sanitize the words of Allah from those of bashar. Here he can be the prophet of Islam himself ushering a new age of Rationalism where Truth as determined by his flawed intellect will nourish all your souls from the jahiliya that has driven you all to suicide bombings and mullah worshiping. With ****mitarsexedge on the prowl no quran literalist will be allowed to pander christian or jewish believes like Creationism. Eventually you will all come to accept the fact that Qur'an is not even needed because Darwin has deciphered Nature and Nature is the word of Allah. There can only be literalism in Darwinism. Man literally evolved from lower beings, even though there is no valid evidence for that, you must accept it on faith. Adam was a fictitious, archetypal character who was never one person, but an "iconic" person, there was never a father of man, and there isn't even such a thing as man, because man is also prime ape, so therefore adam was just an ape. Creation happened in steps, even though 9% of your X chromosome has Neanderthal genes, it still means that they were a prototype of adam, but not one of adam. Nature, for which there is no definition, is supreme to all things and governs the affairs of the universe, Allah must follow the will of Nature. If you don't accept this, you will strap suicide vests and molest children. Therefore, you must stop pandering a literal Qur'an and accept an Allegorical Quran. A literal Quran is farcical, and evolution is a meritable concept because the people who preach don't have beards. People who have beards are usually retarded...err, excuse me...intellectually lazy. They are prone to rely heuristical schemas which Lord Evolution has embued them, thus superstitions and fairy tales are their answer to everything. Clean shaved people, on account of how properly the blade glazes their faces, are able to think more abstractly, and thus envision a more rational and sensible approach to the big questions of life. They can see that monkeys have four fingers and a thumb, like we do, and determine that we must have progressed from being tree dwellers to terrestrial walkers. So if ****mitarsexedge says that evolution is truth, then you don't need prove, because he himself is the proof of evolution. Lord Evolution has given him the revelation and speaks through him, therefore he doesn't need to prove evolution to you. For him it is real. LAkum Denukom wa liya deen.

More nonsense coming out of you. All your good at is insulting people on this site, you lack the ability to talk respectfully to people, I don't really know if it is people you have a problem with or just Pashtuns you have a problem with.
What is your aim here.

1. You come on this site to convince Pashtuns that the pedophile coward Ahmed Shaw Masood was the best military commander of all time.
2. You have also come here to convince Pashtuns that the World is flat and your attempt to use Quranic verses to justify your preposterous claim.
3. You falsely claim that Farsi is original to the area by saying that Panjab, Pakistan, Peshawar are farsi names but you cant respond when I told you these are not original names of these areas. They were changed during Moghul times.
4. Now your attempting to brainwash Pashtuns to believe in black magic instead of Logic and Reasoning. You do this in the Name of Islam and you do this while at the same time you eat and sell pork products.

I would suggest you to spread this non sense to your own Tajic people. The pashtuns are much more intelligent than you think.

[khushal]

Alchemist

Then please educate me about Evolution.
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Alchemist can not educate anyone. He gets off on insulting pashtuns. If you truly desire education. The Quran tells us to learn with an open mind and discuss with anyone that can reason. When you have true free debates, the truth will always come out. It is the evil and the jahil that always limit free debates so the truth can be hidden from exposing evil and jahiliya.

All evolution is saying is that all life on this planet is connected, that all life has a common ancestor. If all of mankind can have a common ancestor than why cant all life on earth have a common ancestor and how does that contradict the teachings of the Quaran?

[khushal]

@scimitar

not all mullahs who preach against science are bomb wearing suicide bombers or pedphiles. Most are not scholars in Islam nor in arabic, they just preach what was taught to them but most are men of principle.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Khushal you're right, but I think I distinguish between real Ulamah and the ones who put on the cloak. Just like I see people of European and North American culture as Moral Degenerate Imperialists disguised as False Democracy.

Democracy isn't bad in fact it is a central core of Islam, but the way these frauds present it is not genuine democracy.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Look boy, nobody is dodging your question. I have answered it 7 times. If your blind, I apologize.

Stop running away, and answer mines. All you doing is acting like a baby, cause I didn't give an answer you wanted.

The truth is belief. My beliefs are true. If you can't comprehend that maybe you need to learn how to read, not motion read.


Looks like your throwing christianity card again.

YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION


Giving an IRRELEVANT response is NOT an answer.

Stop saying you answered my question when the answer you gave has NOTHING to do with my question and I already explained why. You're right you didn't give me the answer I wanted because you didn't ANSWER the QUESTION

do you know how to answer a QUESTION?...It means you answer according to the parameters of the Question, not make up your own Parameters
look at what Christians say about evolution and your ideas are exactly the same as theirs.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Khushal lala .....do you agree that Kaish is avoiding my question?

[khushal]

yes ofcourse he is avoiding it, he is afraid that if he says truth that somehow your going to reveal that his beliefs have no logic or reasoning and has nothing to do with truth. If he says beliefs, then your going to come back and say, so you don't care about truth which is what the teachings of the Quaran is all about, Only a jahil would choose belief over truth. Islam has nothing to do with blind Faith. Blind faith is a concept of people that would like to keep the masses ignorant to use them for their own means. The caste system in India is a blind faith concept.
So he is confused on which one to pick. So he is dodging it because he is going to look like a fool either way.

[کیش]

Lol what avoiding. I answered it 7 TIMES. Your looking for an answer, but my answer doesn't match yours. It's like a deaf teacher who asks a question, and a student is answering it every time. The poor teacher is deaf and can't hear. How many times shall I answer it, to get it through your big bald head?

Of course a minion like Khusal is going to agree with you.

I have been waiting for DAYS, for you answer mines. Your just dodging it, because you can't answer it. Your getting annoying as hell dodging my question, and using reverse psychology.

Your views are more in line with Atheism, look at their views.

Coward. Now I do not care if you answer it, as it's been days since I asked it. Keep making excuses.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Lol what avoiding. I answered it 7 TIMES. Your looking for an answer, but my answer doesn't match yours. It's like a deaf teacher who asks a question, and a student is answering it every time. The poor teacher is deaf and can't hear. How many times shall I answer it, to get it through your big bald head?

Of course a minion like Khusal is going to agree with you.

I have been waiting for DAYS, for you answer mines. Your just dodging it, because you can't answer it. Your getting annoying as hell dodging my question, and using reverse psychology.

Your views are more in line with Atheism, look at their views.

Coward. Now I do not care if you answer it, as it's been days since I asked it. Keep making excuses.

Yeah you're right I'm looking for an answer that Matches my Question

Your answer ....has NOTHING TO DO WITH MY QUESTION....don't you understand this ?


Not some made up answer which has NOTHING to do with the question

The one who makes excuses here is you...... You Don't actually address the question I asked.

Your "question" is just an excuse to avoid my question

[کیش]

I have blind faith?

Oh please. The only reason you people are Muslims is because your parents are. You guys would be Atheists if you had the chance to be.


Keep going in circles, I have answered it deaf X edge.

You can't answer mines, because perhaps you don't belief in Noah. I mean "scientifically" he probably didn't exist, correct?

[ScimitarXEdge]

Ok Everyone else watching this thread

I asked Kaish ...."what is more important to you ....truth or belief"?

his response is

"I believe evolution is false and that Adam is made of clay is true"

Can you explain to Kaish how his response does not answer my question?

He is such a jahil he keeps getting confused when I tell him.

[khushal]

you never answered it. you said "my beliefs are truth and the truth is my beliefs." thats no answering the question.
the questions is "which one do you care for more, believing in something or the truth."

Your answer should be as follows "I care more about the _______"
You are a person that has blind faith. You don't care about the truth. HAving blind faith is against the teachings of the quran. Blind faith is something Alchemist is trying to emphasis her to the pashtuns to keep pashtuns jahil and backwards.