why Creationism is farcical and Evolution is a meritable Scientific Concept

[کیش]

I gave you the answer, believing in god's creation of man from clay is the truth.

Khusal
I am dissappointed that you could not understand my debates. Perhaps if you read my argument, and not motion reading it; it would make sense.


So you people do belief that human race, did not come from Noah's three kids: Sam, Ham and Japhete? That is not the truth, according to you.

[ScimitarXEdge]

ok how about this

let me rephrase the question .....since you're avoiding it


if you were to find out that something you believed in were incorrect, would you keep believing in it?

[کیش]

Dude, I swear you can't read. I answered your question, now your moving around with your question.

You belief in Evolution, are you going to wait to you die to find the real truth?

I have complete faith in the reality of god creating Adam from clay.


Answer my question about Noah's kids. I have to answer your questions, several times to get through your head.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Your answer .. wasn't relevant to my question....you're purposely skirting around it.

which isn't answering.


now if you were to find out that something you believed were actually false or incorrect would you keep believing it?

[lostsoul.]

they belive what thier Brain's say is right they didnt belive whats in quran , do you think they will belive you kaish ?

you are not the first one to debate with him kaish . i think they did debate like one million time , thats why u can see the Dodge skills :P

[کیش]

^^^

That question is geared for you. Your deliberately saying God did not create Adam from clay, as the Quran says. But, saying Adam is offsprings of Donkey Kong. Even going further and calling God's account "Farcical", and "Incorrect" shows what kind of path your heading.

God created Adam from clay. That is the truth, and the only truth. It's not believe, it's the reality.

Answer my questions about Noah's three sons? Is that Farcical. Are you going to say god is Farcical next?

Unlike you when I die unbelieving of the Evolution theory, it won't affect me. When people like you die with a huge ego of evolution theory, it will effect your grave. As you do not believe in what God said, but believe in Mans word.



What am I dodging? Can you read. Are you seriously this egotistic?

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they belive what thier Brain's say is right they didnt belive whats in quran , do you think they will belive you kaish ?

you are not the first one to debate with him kaish . i think they did debate like one million time , thats why u can see the Dodge skills :P

Kaish is the one dodging here not us.

[ScimitarXEdge]

^^^



What am I dodging? Can you read. Are you seriously this egotistic?

Anytime I ask you a question; you answer it in a way which is not addressing what the question is asking, this is dodging the question

when a Question has certain parameters, you have to answer within those parameters unless otherwise specified.

For example

I asked you what is more important ..."truth or believing in something"

Your response was

"I told you ...I believe that the Qur'an is true and that God created us from clay"

but ...did I ask you if you believe the Qur'an or if God created us from clay??!?!?!??!

Nope


hence you're dodging ..... I can easily spot these discrepancies ..and so can others.

so ...unless you're afraid to answer...stop avoiding You're doing more harm to Islam than benefit by doing so.

[graveyardofempires]

scimitarxedge

please come back to your senses and stop this blasphamy.

[کیش]

I have been answering your stupid questions throughout this debate.

What truth! evolution is false, their is no truth to it.

Believing in god, and his Human creation is the truth.

The Quran says that the unbelievers will not be satisfied with you, until you believe in what they do.

Have I answered your stupid question? Its the 4th time. Now answer mines, about Noah's three children. The one you havent even attempted to answer, hence avoiding.

Also,

You never clearly answered my old question:

How and when did Donkey Kong transform to Adam?

[khushal]

Anytime I ask you a question; you answer it in a way which is not addressing what the question is asking, this is dodging the question

when a Question has certain parameters, you have to answer within those parameters unless otherwise specified.

For example

I asked you what is more important ..."truth or believing in something"

Your response was

"I told you ...I believe that the Qur'an is true and that God created us from clay"

but ...did I ask you if you believe the Qur'an or if God created us from clay??!?!?!??!

Nope


hence you're dodging ..... I can easily spot these discrepancies ..and so can others.

so ...unless you're afraid to answer...stop avoiding You're doing more harm to Islam than benefit by doing so.

Where you and Kaish differ is the interpretation of what the Quran is saying. Kaish is under the impression that the Quran contradicts the theory of evolution and your saying that the theory of evolution does not contradict the Quran. Both of you agree that the Quran is the truth, but the disagreement is the interpretation. This is the reason that Muslims are divided. In the past there were councils of Scholars that discussed and had free debates about such matters,. Today those discussions and free debates have been transformed into shooting guns at each others opponents.

Kaish is under the impression that if he comes to your view point whether right or wrong, that he is committing blasphemy because your view point would shake up the foundation of his beliefs. He keeps mentioning that the Quran says that Adam was made from clay, and you come back saying that the Quran mentions that all life was made from water, that all life is connected, that all life has a common ancestor. He emphasis the former but ignores the latter because he understands the simple but fears the complex. He gives excuses that it is a white mans theory, that it is black magic concocted by Shaitan, etc.
He does not even understand that giving attributes to Shaitan or humans that only belongs to Allah is shirk which is blasphemy in itself.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I have been answering your stupid questions throughout this debate.

What truth! evolution is false, their is no truth to it.

Believing in god, and his Human creation is the truth.

The Quran says that the unbelievers will not be satisfied with you, until you believe in what they do.

Have I answered your stupid question? Its the 4th time. Now answer mines, about Noah's three children. The one you havent even attempted to answer, hence avoiding.

Also,

You never clearly answered my old question:

How and when did Donkey Kong transform to Adam?

Saying "evolution is false, there is no truth to it"

Does not answer THIS question

"What is more important to you, to believe something or having the truth".


you're either a complete jahil and don't understand the question or you're being a typical Chalak Mullah who grows a long beard and molests boys in a Madrassa and acting like giving an IRRELEVANT response is giving an answer to the question.


You're not fooling anyone here ...everyone can see what you're doing.

Failing to answer means that you'd believe your ideas even if they were false. So the problem here is you follow dogma, and only believe in something out of brainwashing.

[ScimitarXEdge]

scimitarxedge

please come back to your senses and stop this blasphamy.

What's coming to my senses in your eyes, suicide bombing and killing more Muslims than kufar?

[کیش]

That's your opinion buddy. The truth is Evolution is deceiving you. But, you are too brainwashed to understand that. Seek more false knowledge, I'm sure it will get you nowhere in Akhira. Your calling me a Jahil, while you are in love with worldy science and not god.

Since you can't comprehend my answers. Please answer these two questions (since i asked several times, and you are dodging it; Pinning it on me.)

1) so in your loony world of truth, is the story of Noah's three sons being the fathers races real or fake? Or is it a fake story

2) when and where did Donkey Kong transform to Adam? Or was Adam a large Donkey Kong, and was not a human. Even though he is referred to as "Father of Mankind"

[Alchemist]

This thread is an utter failure because everyone involved in this debate is too ignorant to know better.
I like how each one of you tries to give a summary of what has been discussed every 10 posts...as if the posts have vanished and your misconceived version is "The Truth".
Fact of the matter is that neither ****mitar nor kish nor kusal or anyone else knows here knows what either Qur'an says or Evolution says. They just have rehearsed lines that they keep repeating over and over. Associating irrelevant things with evolution...seriously what does suicide bombings have to do with evolution? This farcical thread has been intentionally created for the psychological venting that mr.****mitarsexedge is in desperate need of. The poor lad needs to stir up animosity in order to reaffirm his heretical and "individualistic" mind set on profound philosophical issues beyound his grasp in order to make up for his shortcomings in life. Suffice it to say that he has found his equals here. Here he can pretend to be the paragon of science on the verge of purging religion with his exact rationalism and appropriating to it a western structure so that he may sanitize the words of Allah from those of bashar. Here he can be the prophet of Islam himself ushering a new age of Rationalism where Truth as determined by his flawed intellect will nourish all your souls from the jahiliya that has driven you all to suicide bombings and mullah worshiping. With ****mitarsexedge on the prowl no quran literalist will be allowed to pander christian or jewish believes like Creationism. Eventually you will all come to accept the fact that Qur'an is not even needed because Darwin has deciphered Nature and Nature is the word of Allah. There can only be literalism in Darwinism. Man literally evolved from lower beings, even though there is no valid evidence for that, you must accept it on faith. Adam was a fictitious, archetypal character who was never one person, but an "iconic" person, there was never a father of man, and there isn't even such a thing as man, because man is also prime ape, so therefore adam was just an ape. Creation happened in steps, even though 9% of your X chromosome has Neanderthal genes, it still means that they were a prototype of adam, but not one of adam. Nature, for which there is no definition, is supreme to all things and governs the affairs of the universe, Allah must follow the will of Nature. If you don't accept this, you will strap suicide vests and molest children. Therefore, you must stop pandering a literal Qur'an and accept an Allegorical Quran. A literal Quran is farcical, and evolution is a meritable concept because the people who preach don't have beards. People who have beards are usually retarded...err, excuse me...intellectually lazy. They are prone to rely heuristical schemas which Lord Evolution has embued them, thus superstitions and fairy tales are their answer to everything. Clean shaved people, on account of how properly the blade glazes their faces, are able to think more abstractly, and thus envision a more rational and sensible approach to the big questions of life. They can see that monkeys have four fingers and a thumb, like we do, and determine that we must have progressed from being tree dwellers to terrestrial walkers. So if ****mitarsexedge says that evolution is truth, then you don't need prove, because he himself is the proof of evolution. Lord Evolution has given him the revelation and speaks through him, therefore he doesn't need to prove evolution to you. For him it is real. LAkum Denukom wa liya deen.