why Creationism is farcical and Evolution is a meritable Scientific Concept

[Alchemist]

and the men who'd behead others for believing in evolution believe God sits on a throne just like Hindus do; that doesn't make their arguments any more meritable.

I like how you went for that than actually giving a detailed explanation of the stuff you misguidedly distorted with your pseudo science christian creationist arguments.

Stfu!


"I like how ..bla bla bla"...

you goof ball!


I like how you compare muslims who don't believe in evolution to hindus ...who actually have a mythology that resembles evolution verbatim! SO that makes you more hindu...
Oh the irony!

Can you please STU.

You are an embarrasing to read.
With your warped and retarded claims on mutazalim taken to extreme heights of ignorance...so much so that you deny that there even is a Throne (Arch)?

[Alchemist]

It did make the Qur'an; whatever I told you was in the Qur'an I even showed you the verse but because of your Pride; you ignored it; because Shaitan wants to keep you blind to Haq.

56:61 (Y. Ali) from changing your forms and creating you (again) in (forms) that ye know not.

56:62 (Y. Ali) And ye certainly know already the first form of creation: why then do ye not celebrate His praises?

82:8 (Y. Ali) In whatever form He wills, does He put thee together.

Yes forms!

[faye]

so what's stopping all the other apes turning into humans? or are they?

[کیش]

It did make the Qur'an; whatever I told you was in the Qur'an I even showed you the verse but because of your Pride; you ignored it; because Shaitan wants to keep you blind to Haq.

56:61 (Y. Ali) from changing your forms and creating you (again) in (forms) that ye know not.

56:62 (Y. Ali) And ye certainly know already the first form of creation: why then do ye not celebrate His praises?

82:8 (Y. Ali) In whatever form He wills, does He put thee together.

Sahih International: In that We will change your likenesses and produce you in that [form] which you do not know.

Pickthall: That We may transfigure you and make you what ye know not.

Yusuf Ali: from changing your Forms and creating you (again) in (forms) that ye know not.

Shakir: In order that We may bring in your place the likes of you and make you grow into what you know not.

Muhammad Sarwar: in replacing you with another creation like you, changing you into a form which you do not know.

Mohsin Khan: To transfigure you and create you in (forms) that you know not.

Arberry: that We may exchange the likes of you, and make you to grow again in a fashion you know not.

So you know what god knows? Even though god clearly says "forms in which you do not know". So humans now, know what god knows?

56:62

Sahih International: And you have already known the first creation, so will you not remember?

Pickthall: And verily ye know the first creation. Why, then, do ye not reflect?

Yusuf Ali: And ye certainly know already the first form of creation: why then do ye not celebrate His praises?

Shakir: And certainly you know the first growth, why do you not then mind?

Muhammad Sarwar: You certainly knew about (your) first development. Why do you not take heed?

Mohsin Khan: And indeed, you have already known the first form of creation (i.e. the creation of Adam), why then do you not remember or take heed?

Arberry: You have known the first growth; so why will you not remember?

This is referring to Adam. It is said that Adam was roughly 96 feet tall (Bukhari)

[کیش]

so what's stopping all the other apes turning into humans? or are they?

Apes are a race of Man. Like their are white people, brown people, black people, now theirs a new race. Called the Ape race, I sure hope they pay their taxes.

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You are a real goof ball Weasel...

read the article I gave you son...

the details are there

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oh that's right ...

you are not specialized for that....too much data ....hurts your ... puny brain.

You are the real pseudo scientist here. Quit projecting your own short comings on me.


Or what? You want me to list the specific gene sequence of all 59 different morphs for you so that I can recreate the experiment for you ....Didn't I do the same when I debunked the "96%" claim. Didn't I get the manual to the program and copy and paste for you the exact sections that showed the assumptions. And what was your response? More theatrics. "Oh...I was going to write a lengthy detailed response, but you are a christain pseudo weasel who believes the world is flat...I am super smart and you are not". Weaselling your way out ...as usual.

A.) doesn't list the base pairings comparatively

B.) has no reference that supports your statement

C.) Article deals with the fallacy of Mitochrondrial Eve in contrast to Y-Chromosomal Adam, not that human gene sequences don't share relationships; and it doesn't say that those sequences are older than chimps


again an example of how you cite evidence which says something contrary to your claims.

Perhaps you should reread it again?


Nice try trying to scapegoat actually having to give a sound scientific explanation

I know your weaknesses in this area and I play on them.

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Sahih International: In that We will change your likenesses and produce you in that [form] which you do not know.

Pickthall: That We may transfigure you and make you what ye know not.

Yusuf Ali: from changing your Forms and creating you (again) in (forms) that ye know not.

Shakir: In order that We may bring in your place the likes of you and make you grow into what you know not.

Muhammad Sarwar: in replacing you with another creation like you, changing you into a form which you do not know.

Mohsin Khan: To transfigure you and create you in (forms) that you know not.

Arberry: that We may exchange the likes of you, and make you to grow again in a fashion you know not.

So you know what god knows? Even though god clearly says "forms in which you do not know". So humans now, know what god knows?

56:62

Sahih International: And you have already known the first creation, so will you not remember?

Pickthall: And verily ye know the first creation. Why, then, do ye not reflect?

Yusuf Ali: And ye certainly know already the first form of creation: why then do ye not celebrate His praises?

Shakir: And certainly you know the first growth, why do you not then mind?

Muhammad Sarwar: You certainly knew about (your) first development. Why do you not take heed?

Mohsin Khan: And indeed, you have already known the first form of creation (i.e. the creation of Adam), why then do you not remember or take heed?

Arberry: You have known the first growth; so why will you not remember?

This is referring to Adam. It is said that Adam was roughly 96 feet tall (Bukhari)

Yes that was what I referring to....Adam has different forms ...more than one proving he was not merely created but was evolved from a blue print, a form. Only Mohsin Khan says that first creation refers to Adam though; which means most see it's about mankind evolving.

Thanks for finally agreeing.

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Yes forms!

that's not what the verses are alluding to though.

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so what's stopping all the other apes turning into humans? or are they?

punctuated equilibrium.

[کیش]

Yes that was what I referring to....Adam has different forms ...more than one proving he was not merely created but was evolved from a blue print, a form. Only Mohsin Khan says that first creation refers to Adam though; which means most see it's about mankind evolving.

Thanks for finally agreeing.

No where does it say evolve from another species. Adam was a human, with human features. The Prophet (PBUH) said he was roughly 96 feet tall (Bukhari). If you ever been to Mecca, you would notice Abrahams foot prints were larger then today's foot prints. Perhaps humans have shrunk over the years. No where does it say evolving from another species. Breaking into two different species (apes and man)

The Prophet said in heaven we shall take the form of how Adam (PBUH) was. (Bukhari).

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No where does it say evolve from another species. Adam was a human, with human features. The Prophet (PBUH) said he was roughly 96 feet tall (Bukhari). If you ever been to Mecca, you would notice Abrahams foot prints were larger then today's foot prints. Perhaps humans have shrunk over the years. No where does it say evolving from another species. Breaking into two different species (apes and man)

The Prophet said in heaven we shall take the form of how Adam (PBUH) was. (Bukhari).

It does; change one form to another form, is evolution. one form, how many forms can Adam be but Adam? LOL so clearly it means evolution

The Prophet (saw) was speaking metaphorically it refers to the form of Adam in Alam al Maithal


look for yourself it's speaking about Adam in paradise not on Earth.

Nice try


He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6809)"

[کیش]

Diminish in size? Yes I know. Where does it say turned to apes, or from apes to human? Wouldn't the Prophet (PBUH) mention the ape transformation, I mean look, he was so close to it. If it was true the prophet(PBUH) would have mentioned it.

Do you think we are all going to be large apes in heaven? If we make it their.

[khushal]

Khusal
You didn't understand my statement. I said Science, is a branch of Ibliss deceiving plan. Which includes Evolution.

Airplanes have negative effects on the world environment, don't they? Yes you travel faster, but at what cost?

How am I deceiving you? Im just warning you not to fall for Ibliss deceiving. Your denying Adam, being the father of humans. Which is a grave-sin.

First, I never denied Adam, don't falsely accuse people, that is a sin.

Second, I understood your statement. So what your saying is that Science is an ibliss deceiving plan. So when Science explains why and how the plane flies, it is ibliss deceiving us. The plane is not actually flying. So when I fly from Kabul to Pashawar, I am being deceived by ibliss, I am imagining the whole trip or is it black magic. What your saying does not make sense.

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Diminish in size? Yes I know. Where does it say turned to apes, or from apes to human? Wouldn't the Prophet (PBUH) mention the ape transformation, I mean look, he was so close to it. If it was true the prophet(PBUH) would have mentioned it.

Do you think we are all going to be large apes in heaven? If we make it their.

did Prophet mention that Water is made of Hydrogen and Oxygen? If not

why do you think Muhammad(saw) has to tell us EVERYTHING? If he leaves some things out, then so what? We're here to learn and discover. that's why God gave us a brain, not to just blindly follow but follow based on proof

seriously you sound worse than a Wahhabi, you sound like a Christian; save yourself from such christian foolishness.

[کیش]

did Prophet mention that Water is made of Hydrogen and Oxygen? If not

why do you think Muhammad(saw) has to tell us EVERYTHING? If he leaves some things out, then so what? We're here to learn and discover. that's why God gave us a brain, not to just blindly follow but follow based on proof

seriously you sound worse than a Wahhabi, you sound like a Christian; save yourself from such christian foolishness.

The Prophet did give us a good description of Adam (being 96 ft tall), but why not say being an ape?

You are adding things to Islam, saying I am a fool because I belief Adam was the first human, and not king kong. Why don't you preach this to your local masjid, if you belief this is the truth? Go on ahead.

Seriously, you don't sound like a slave of god, but an Atheist. You have same thoughts and arguments as an Atheist. Save yourself, it's your grave.