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Infact the Saudis had provided transport aircraft to Pakistan to ferry troops from(W) Pakistan to BD. These were flown by Pakistani pilots and were painted in PIA livery.Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View PostComment
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1.The Umayyad general young bin Qasim had captured up to modern Mulatan with plans of moving NW. But as we know he fell victim to power struggle.The Muslim ingress not only terminated with his death but could not be consolidated. A permanent physical presence had to wait till Amir Sabuktagin (942 – 997) annexed Peshawar and the Punjab to the Ghaznavid empire.Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
2. By comparison The Message reached the shores of Bengal-Arakan during the lifetime of the Holy Prophet pbuh. And we had received this unadulterated by any intervening culture and un-eroded by passage of time. And we have protected and nurtured this through thick and thin. Notice we never had sectarianism/schism in our society.Comment
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I did not know this, thanks.Originally posted by asad71 View Post
1. Thus the Saudis were involved in the 1971 genocide and the independence of Bangladesh.
2. Since the independence of Bangladesh they have always supported pro-Pakistani, anti-Bangladeshi groups in Bangladesh such as Jamaat.
They punish Bangladesh in order to please Pakistan.
3. However they only target Bangladesh as they are bullies, they respect India and have very good relations with it to the extent that it angers Pakistani nationalists. India occupies Kashmir, is a Hindu country whereas Bangladesh is a Muslim country and occupies nobody but it is Bangladesh which is targeted by the Saudi regime.
The Saudis will pay for their crimes.
Saddam removed.
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I warned the Saudis that they should start behaving themselves.
This is from Bahrain, 2 weeks ago:
LiveLeak com Bahrain Molotov cocktail attack against police station - YouTube
Saudi has de facto annexed Bahrain ever since they sent in forces to "protect" the royal family and its regime there. This is like the communists in Kabul inviting the Soviets in.
On another forum a Saudi official has boasted that Saudi controls Bahrain.
This is from Riyadh a few days ago, the heart of Saudi Arabia:
Ethiopian riots in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia - 12/11/2013 - YouTube
New Saudi Arabian Violence and Riots Aganist Ethiopians Latest Video Today - YouTubeLast edited by Bengal_Tiger; 11-16-2013, 03:23 PM.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comment
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1. The Saudis regard control of Bahrain as an absolute must.
If Bahrain is ruled by the Shia majority (that is if the same "democracy" the Saudis advocate for Syria is applied to Bahrain) then in Saudi eyes it could be:
a: A potential ally of arch-enemy Iran.
b: Another strengthening of the Shia bloc, and Shias in Saudi will be heartened by this Shia victory, and the Bahrainis may provide support to the Shia.
2. It is said now that Bahrain is now de facto the 14th province of Saudi Arabia or the only province not ruled by a Saudi prince. The Bahraini regime can run the country, but all key military, strategic and foreign policy decisions come under Saudi control/veto/influence.
This video was uploaded a week ago:
Protesters Target Security Forces With Molotov Cocktails In Bahrain - YouTube
The curse, "la'na" of supporting Jamaat e Islami in Bangladesh and the du'as of all those raped and killed in the 1971 war for justice against the behind that murder and rape may be being witnessed now with:
- Turkey's AKP regime which supported the Jamaat facing a nationwide revolt a few months ago and now civil war between the Gulenists and Erdogan.
- Egypt's Muslim brotherhood which supported Jamaat in Bangladesh now overthrown.
- Egypt's Qardawi who supported Jamaat now facing charges and arrest if he steps foot in Egypt.
- Public opinion in Pakistan against the wing of Jamaat there after they insulted the army.
- Riots and chaos in the capital of Saudi Arabia, one of the biggest backers of Jamaat.
- America humiliated in Syria after Russia scaring them from attacking Syria. America supported the 1971 genocide and to this day backs Jamaat.
The message to all is clear, stop supporting Jamaat or there will be severe consequences. The message to the Saudi regime is also clear, there are 150 million Muslims, worshippers of Allah in Bangladesh, and if their Imams (who hate Jamaat) make du'a against you, you are finished.
Stop threatening and blackmailing Bangladesh merely because Bangladeshis choose a secular-left wing party which still bans alcohol, allows complete freedom to wear Hijab, applies Quranic-based family law, allows the functioning of 50,000+ madrassas just because you consider Bengalis racially inferior to Pakistanis and seek to join Pakistanis in bullying Bangladesh when we chose the Awami league.
The choice is yours Saudis.
You mess with us and you will pay.
Saudi dictator, Abdullah Al-Saud.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comment
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reading this post my face was normalOriginally posted by Bengal_Tiger View PostI did not know this, thanks.
1. Thus the Saudis were involved in the 1971 genocide and the independence of Bangladesh.
2. Since the independence of Bangladesh they have always supported pro-Pakistani, anti-Bangladeshi groups in Bangladesh such as Jamaat.
They punish Bangladesh in order to please Pakistan.
3. However they only target Bangladesh as they are bullies, they respect India and have very good relations with it to the extent that it angers Pakistani nationalists. India occupies Kashmir, is a Hindu country whereas Bangladesh is a Muslim country and occupies nobody but it is Bangladesh which is targeted by the Saudi regime.
The Saudis will pay for their crimes.
Saddam removed.
Mubarak removed.
Ben Ali removed.
Saleh removed.
Qaddafi removed.
Dictator Abdullah Al-Saud to be removed soon as well insha'Allah.
but then i read the last sentence after al-saud's pic, you put a smile on my face
thank youfaye's chauffeur
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I personally had no problems with Saudis until I found out their blackmailing and bullying of Bangladesh.
1. I had and have Saudi friends, from Jiddah, Riyadh even Buraydah.
2. I do not support the overthrow of the Al-Saud tribe (unless they keep on harassing Bangladesh, then it's either them or us) as they are the only thing that gives this country any distinct identity and there will be chaos if they are overthrown.
3. I support a gradual and peaceful reform of Saudi society and laws including:
- Greater rights for women.
- Inclusive policies towards Saudis of Shia background.
- An end to promoting Wahabism and terrorism through out the world.
- Police reform including training police how to deal with foreign workers and stopping torture.
- The end of slavery system including the Kafil slavery system where workers belong to Saudis and cannot even leave the country, so are virtually imprisoned against their will.
- End to theft of public money and giving it to people in the Al-Saud tribe.
As far as Bangladesh is concerned, they have to stop supporting Jamaat. They do this through individuals such as Ali Al-Ghamdi and state-run papers such as "ArabNews", "Saudi Gazette". The speaker of their parliament is apparently connected to Jamaat. Jamaat are to Bangladeshis what the PKK are to Turks, Nazis are to Jews and Al-Qaeda are to Americans.
They are a symbol of evil, a national enemy.
Saudis also need to stop harassing Bangladeshi workers in Saudi as a form of pressure on the Dhaka government. Saudis need to recognize that Bangladesh is an independent state and not a "break away province" of Pakistan. The senior Saudi leaders also need to make tawba and istighar (repentance and forgiveness) for their role in the 1971 genocide.
If they don't, watch what happens.
Anyway Abdullah is old, Salman they say has dementia. Two Saudi crown "princes" have died in the past few years.
If the Al-Saud tribe don't stop supporting Jamaat and bullying Bangladesh then wallahi, billahi, tallahi (all three huroof of qasm), I will make sincere du'a for their humiliation and destruction, which as we can see is at its embryonic stage.
The Al-Saud tribe will be remembered in history as desert thugs, murderers, rapists, thieves, perverts and will be seen like the Medicis or Borgias or other notorious families.
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Saudi royals are there because of the Saudi people, until they themselves change, their leaders will never change. Leaders basically reflect the state of the people. Anyone who has lived in Saudi will tell you that the Saudi Royal behavior is exactly like the people and their customs ( at least majority of them).
Of course that said, there are few good individuals fighting the system there. One can only hope that their rebellion grows.
Same thing with Pakistan or any other corrupt societyComment
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dear bengal tiger if you answer to me please quote me next timeOriginally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
thank you
i understand your point
and i can distinguish ethnicity, language and religion (also the using of religion as a tool)faye's chauffeur
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Not all Saudis are bad or racists. Some Saudis are nice and gentle people.Originally posted by Hallo View Post
I can tell you a few stories of Saudi kindness that I have seen here in London and in Saudi.
However their regime is not the master of the people. They are servants.
They are there to fulfill the rights of their citizens, the Saudis regardless of which Islamic school of thought they follow (Salafi, Ashari, Ikhwani, Shia) they follow.
They are also there to accord basic human rights and dignity to foreign workers.
Also they cannot export terrorism and Wahabism to the rest of the Muslim world and bully and blackmail Muslim countries e.g. Bangladesh.
If they do not stop their bullying and blackmailing of Bangladeshis, then they will pay for it, with interest.
They have the choice, whether to support a small radical party (Jamaat e Islami) in a country they care very little about and only see as a source of cheap labour, Bangladesh (supporting Jamaat is pure bullying and nothing else as the Saudis have no national interests in Bangladesh) or for the sake of bullying Bangladesh they want to lose their thrones as Saddam, Ben Ali, Qaddafi, Saleh, Mubarak and others all have.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comment
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Fear and loathing in Riyadh
By JONATHAN SPYER
LAST UPDATED: 11/16/2013 05:02
Tehran's regional designs are causing concern in Saudi Arabia.
SAUDI PRINCES attend a meeting at the Royal Palace in Jeddah
Western news coverage tends to depict Israel as the chief advocate for a hard line against the Iranian nuclear program.
But the concerns of the Gulf states, in particular Saudi Arabia, are of equal or greater urgency.
Since the foundation of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the US has performed the role of protector for Riyadh. The departure of the British from the Gulf area in the early 1970s meant that the small Gulf monarchies also came to depend on the US for protection.
Washington has bases up and down the Arab side of the Gulf.
But the mere presence of these bases no longer bring a feeling of security. The Arab monarchs and emirs of the Gulf Cooperation Council countries (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar and United Arab Emirates) are watching with dismay as US President Barack Obama’s administration seeks rapprochement with Tehran.
It is Saudi Arabia which is most concerned. Riyadh is engaged in a struggle to contain and set back Iranian expansion across the region.
The Wikileaks revelations in 2010 made clear the extent of Saudi and Gulf concerns regarding Iran.
King Abdullah was famously quoted as demanding that the US “cut off the head of the snake” by launching military strikes against Iran’s nuclear program.
King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa of Bahrain, according to the cables, also argued for Western military action against the program.
Riyadh’s central concern is that the US simply fails to grasp the extent and the seriousness of Iran’s regional project. This, in their view, is part of a more general naivete – which has produced failed US policy in key areas of the Middle East over the last three years.
The US decision to abandon Hosni Mubarak of Egypt was for the Saudis an early indication of the problem. This has been compounded by the failure to lend support to the military coup of Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, a close ally of Riyadh. Washington’s failure to organize properly to frustrate the Iranian effort to preserve President Bashar Assad in Syria is an additional telling example.
The Muslim Brotherhood victories of the Arab Spring deeply worried the Saudis. But in the course of 2013, these have mostly been reversed.
In Tunisia, Egypt and the Syrian rebellion, the Muslim Brotherhood is now eclipsed. Saudi money and machinations have played a central role in this.
But Saudi money will not be enough to turn back the Iranians.
For that, Riyadh needs more powerful allies. Hence the acute fear that the Americans are no longer willing to play this role.
The Saudis’ view of Iran gibes in all essential details with that of Israel. This commonality was openly expressed by influential Saudi columnist Tariq Alhomayed, in a recent interview with the Weekly Standard magazine: “Israel is the most important player in the Middle East right now regarding Iran... They drew the red line on Iran, and that makes everyone in the region happy.”
The Saudis see Tehran’s nuclear ambition as part of a more general drive for regional domination in two directions – westwards towards the Mediterranean, and southwards towards the Gulf. This is a project which is already underway.
To the west, Iran is in the process of turning Nouri al-Maliki’s Iraq into a client, or at least a closely allied state. Iran is fighting tooth and nail to keep its ally Assad in place in Damascus. His fall would end the dream of a contiguous pro-Iranian line from western Afghanistan to the Mediterranean Sea.
In the absence of the US, the Saudis have themselves tried to do the heavy lifting of support for the Syrian insurgency. It isn’t working.
Assad has consolidated his position in the course of 2013, and is now beginning to claw back territory from the rebels.
In the Gulf area, the Saudis have watched as Iran continues to back opposition movements in Bahrain, Kuwait, north Yemen and in eastern Saudi Arabia itself.
For the Saudis, as for Israel, a nuclear capacity would clear the way for a massive increase in subversive activities of this kind.
A nuclear Iran, they fear, would be able to entice or bully the small Gulf states to come under its umbrella. This would then give Iran the ability to set or influence global oil prices, and thus blackmail both neighboring countries and global powers.
Riyadh’s bond with the US is not about to break. The Saudis have nowhere else to go; there is no other power currently able to project military power into the Gulf.
The Obama administration, meanwhile, is keen to assure the Saudis that its military presence is there to stay, and their concerns are unfounded.
Simultaneously, however, the Saudis see the Iranians winning in Syria and Iraq, engaging in subversion across the Gulf, and moving full speed ahead toward a nuclear capacity – with their traditional partners blithely reassuring them there is nothing to worry about.
The result? A recent BBC report suggested the Saudis have readied a nuclear option for themselves, in the form of an agreement with Pakistan that would supply nuclear weapons to Riyadh if Iran were to acquire a nuclear capability.
There may be substance to these reports. Or they may be part of a desperate PR campaign by the Saudis to seek to inform the US of the cost of an Iran-Washington rapprochement.
Either way, they are testimony to just how bad things have got between Washington and its closest Arab allies, as a result of the lenient tone toward Iran, and the broader process of disengagement from the region adopted by the current administration over the last three years.
Fear and loathing in Riyadh | JPost | Israel News
* Saudis can never use nukes as the fallout would affect them including the area with the oil in the east. Also there are 20+ million Saudis with bellies to feed and aspirations to be met who cannot be nuked just as Mubarak, Qaddafi and Ben Ali could not nuke their own people.
Today something miraculous happened Alhamdulilah. Riyadh was flooded.
The Al-Saud princes thought they could support a war which ruined the lives of millions of Muslims in Syria and were safe from harm in their hideout in Riyadh but with the recent riots and now the flooding they will realize that they too are not safe and need to behave themselves.
I thank Allah for flooding Riyadh.
SubahAllah wa Allahu Akbar!
‫ياساتر الشوارع صارت أودية بالرياض‬‎ - YouTube
Riyadh flooded, Allahu Akbar!
Allahu Akbar! (Allah is the greatest)
Allahu Akbar!
Allahu Akbar!
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Heavy rains to lash Bahrain, GCC
Heavy rains to lash Bahrain, GCC
Manama, 14 hours, 31 minutes ago
Bahrain and much of the Gulf is likely to be battered by strong winds and heavy rains over the next few days, say weathermen.
Saudi Arabia, which has already been reeling under heavy rains and flooding over the week, says it is mobilising personnel and resources to meet any emergency after a warning by its weather bureau of severe climatic fluctuations.
It has also been raining heavily in Kuwait and parts of the UAE, reported the Gulf Daily News, our sister publication.
Weathermen have warned of heavy rains and strong winds for the next two days over the eastern, central and western parts of Saudi Arabia, particularly the Eastern Province.
A disaster management centre has been set up in the Mecca governorate that will be supported by 16 support centres, authorities there said.
Contingency plans are also being put in place to close schools and evacuate people from low-lying areas, they said.
The rainfall may last much of the week and weathermen expect rains in the northwestern city of Hail to flood the Al Adeerae valley.
Securitymen had to rescue three university students trapped in floodwaters in Mehr valley, close to Hail University.
They said rainwaters had engulfed a village, 70km west of Hail.
Authorities are monitoring the situation amidst reports that villagers had to seek shelter on the roofs of houses, mosques and mountaintops during the flooding.
The villagers were quoted as saying that it was first time in 40 years that they had seen such a flood.
At least 13 people died in flash floods in Saudi Arabia in May this year when authorities described the rainfall as the heaviest in 25 years.
Weathermen in Bahrain said the unsettled weather is the result of a deep depression moving from the Mediterranean basin towards the Arabian Peninsula and meeting with warm and moist air mass from the Arabian Sea, which will lead to the formation of clouds over the centre of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.
The kingdom's highest rainfall on record in November was 101.6mm in 1997
Allahu Akbar!
I hope the floods and storms in particular strike and devastate the Saudi and other GCC military bases, mukhabarat (secret police) bases, torture centres, "royal" palaces. Ameen ya Rabb!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comment
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thanks for quotingOriginally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
unfortunately i don't have any clue about bangladesh history or politic but it's a good reason to fiddle with it
i understand your anger
what do you mean with "they will pay for it"?faye's chauffeur
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If the Saudis don't stop supporting anti-Bangladeshi radicals and war criminals (Jamaat e Islami) and stop harassing Bangladeshi workers and Bangladesh everytime there is an Awami League government in Dhaka then there will be consequences.Originally posted by Hallo View Post
I cannot elaborate but watch what happens to Saudi Arabia and the Al-Saud tribe.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comment
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