Saud tribe struggles for its survival

[Bengal_Tiger]

Ethiopian TV are covering the Riyadh intifada and the brutality against Ethiopian workers.

ESAT Special On Conditions of Ethiopians KSA - YouTube

The above video says Ethiopians have recieved reports of 10 Ethiopians killed, as well as torture and rape in Saudi.



Saudi dictator, Abdullah Al-Saud.

Saudi dictator Abdullah Al-Saud has not yet commented on the deaths and killings of workers in Saudi. However his brothers through their propaganda outlets such as the "Arabnews" have published articles vilifying the Ethiopian workers.


Abdullah Al-Saud and his gang cannot escape justice forever, be it in this world or the hereafter.

[Bengal_Tiger]

*** FOOTAGE OF THE RIYADH INTIFADA, THE MOMENT WHEN ETHIOPIANS ASSERTED THEIR HUMAN DIGNITY. ****

Ethiopians in Saudi Arabia Protesting New Video Today - YouTube


Violent crackdown on migrants in Saudi Arabia - YouTube

The video above by Qatari-run Al-Jazeera has an anti-immigrant bias and propaganda, for example when the reporter speaks of the 3 people killed in the intifada he only mentions the Saudi and not the 2 Ethiopians. Nevertheless awareness of this crisis is spreading. Al-Jazeera is owned by Saudi ally, Qatar.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Anger in Yemen over Saudi deportations - YouTube

60,000 Yemenis kicked out by Abdullah Al-Saud's regime, 3 Yemenis have died according to the video above.

Illegal foreign workers Arrested In Al Baha, Saudi Arabia - YouTube

The Saudi regime rounding up foreigners en masse and expelling them, 3.13 mins is particularly alarming.

Ethiopian immigrant killed and robbed by Saudi Arabian savage mob - YouTube


I fear the wrath of Allah is coming upon Abdullah Al-Saud and his gang of criminals. Their brother state of Pakistan, a "nuclear power" was "fine" a few years ago with Pakistani nationalists boasting of how they would nuke countries and could defeat America in a war. We now see the humiliating state they have been reduced to by Allah.

The Saudi regime must be careful, time is running out for them.

[Khilji]

it was pakistan that massacred the bangladeshi for their pakistani nationalist and imperialistic interest in this region if soudi arabia use pakistani soldiers to clean their toilets etc is something else

[Bengal_Tiger]

it was pakistan that massacred the bangladeshi for their pakistani nationalist and imperialistic interest in this region if soudi arabia use pakistani soldiers to clean their toilets etc is something else

I am not sure what you mean by that wrora.

Saudi Arabia should not be mistreating foreign workers as they are human beings.

They also need to stop funding and supporting extremists and radicals in other Muslim countries.

[Khilji]

I am not sure what you mean by that wrora.

Saudi Arabia should not be mistreating foreign workers as they are human beings.

They also need to stop funding and supporting extremists and radicals in other Muslim countries.

well that goes also for USA Iran Pakistan thats ok but behind the massacre of the bangladeshis was pakistans nationalism/imperialism in this region not because soudi's payed pakistan to do it or told them to do it.thats what i just wanna say wrora

[Bengal_Tiger]

well that goes also for USA Iran Pakistan thats ok but behind the massacre of the bangladeshis was pakistans nationalism/imperialism in this region not because soudi's payed pakistan to do it or told them to do it.thats what i just wanna say wrora

1. Punjabi/Mohajir racism/ Pakistani nationalism was the cause of the 1971 genocide, yes. Not the Saudis.

2. However the Saudis support groups in Bangladesh opposed to the existence of an independent Bangladesh and Saudi also supports war criminals in Bangladesh and threatens and blackmails the Bangladeshi government, should anything happen to them.

War criminals from the Jamaat e Islami have been sentenced to death but the current government (which itself is not sincere and using this for its own agenda) will never execute them due to certain reasons including Saudi pressure.

Saudi sees Pakistan as a major ally and works to promote Pakistani interests in Bangladesh and is opposed to Bangladeshi nationalism. On another forum a Saudi government official made insulting comments regarding the 1971 genocide, and was praising Pakistan.

3. Aside from Saudi's harassment of Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia is generally an instigator of trouble and instability in the Muslim world in general and promotes Wahabism, mistreats Muslim workers, oppresses its own citizens and many other things.

[Khilji]

1. Punjabi/Mohajir racism/ Pakistani nationalism was the cause of the 1971 genocide, yes. Not the Saudis.

2. However the Saudis support groups in Bangladesh opposed to the existence of an independent Bangladesh and Saudi also supports war criminals in Bangladesh and threatens and blackmails the Bangladeshi government, should anything happen to them.

War criminals from the Jamaat e Islami have been sentenced to death but the current government (which itself is not sincere and using this for its own agenda) will never execute them due to certain reasons including Saudi pressure.

Saudi sees Pakistan as a major ally and works to promote Pakistani interests in Bangladesh and is opposed to Bangladeshi nationalism. On another forum a Saudi government official made insulting comments regarding the 1971 genocide, and was praising Pakistan.

3. Aside from Saudi's harassment of Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia is generally an instigator of trouble and instability in the Muslim world in general and promotes Wahabism, mistreats Muslim workers, oppresses its own citizens and many other things.

yes there was also bangladeshis who killed their own people for pakistans imperialism and interests in this region but the reason for this was still not soudi arabia wrora thats just what i wanna say in my bad englisi

[DaZahroJaam.]

and we are discussing this in a pashtun forum, why?? let them rot. worry about your own people. as in, pashtun people.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Unrest as Saudi Arabia expels foreign workers

November 15, 2013 - 1:04PM

Ruth Pollard
Middle East Correspondent



Men walk next to a car which was damaged during clashes between Saudi and foreign workers in Manfouha, southern Riyadh.

Saudi Arabia's sweeping crackdown on foreign workers has caused a severe labour shortage throughout the kingdom, with garbage reportedly piling up around major cities, crops going unpicked and school buses sitting idle without drivers.

More than 20,000 foreign workers have been arrested, after an amnesty that allowed those employed without proper visas to formalise their status ended last week.

Along with labour shortages and mass arrests there is also growing civil unrest, with violent clashes breaking out between workers and residents.



African workers sit on the roof of a police bus with their belongings before being transferred to a centre in the capital Riyadh ahead of their deportation.

"The crackdown on foreign workers has included raids on businesses and neighbourhoods as well as [the establishment] of police checkpoints," said Adam Coogle, a Middle East researcher for Human Rights Watch.

"If it continues at its current pace it has the potential to provoke more social unrest and potentially violence."

At least three people, believed to be Ethiopian workers, have been killed in clashes this week, the country's ambassador, Muhammed Hassan Kabiera, told Arab News.




Filipino illegal workers eat in their makeshift tent set up on a main street outside their consulate in the coastal seaport city of Jeddah.

"We have been informed that so far about 23,000 Ethiopians have handed themselves in," Mr Kabiera said.

The crackdown targets workers who do not have valid residency or work permits, as well as those with valid documents who are not working for the employer designated in their formal papers, Mr Coogle said.

Almost one-third of Saudi Arabia's 28 million population are foreign workers employed in both skilled and unskilled professions.

But, Mr Coogle warns, workers have little control over their lives, with employers maintaining "inordinate power" over their them, dictating the validity of their residency and work permits, whether they can transfer to other jobs and, ultimately, whether they can leave the country.

Rather than targeting workers, the government should reform its inherently unfair employment system, Mr Coogle said.

In the past, Human Rights Watch and other groups have documented a wide range of abuses, including non-payment of salaries, forced confinement, food deprivation, excessive workloads and instances of severe psychological, physical, and sexual abuse.

Foreign workers are also blamed for so-called "morality crimes" such as drug use, prostitution and alcohol production and supply, said Dr Madawi Al-Rasheed, a visiting professor at the Middle East Centre at the London School of Economics and Political Science.

"Saudi society continues to entertain the illusion that it is pious, conservative and God-abiding and can only be corrupted by foreigners," she wrote on Thursday in the journal Al-Monitor.

"Many Saudis continue to wage war on Westernisation and modernity, blaming both on the presence of foreign elements, the media and globalisation."

The foreign worker is the embodiment of this outside invasion, she warned, and the reaction to them this week has been harsh.

The mistreatment of workers was so severe that in 2011 and 2012 countries providing much of the labour — including the Philippines, Indonesia, Nepal and Kenya — barred their citizens from migrating to Saudi Arabia for domestic work.

Only after the Saudi and Philippines governments signed a bilateral agreement to cooperate on labour issues, which included a $US400-a-month minimum wage, did the Philippines allow its citizens to resume work in Saudi Arabia, Human Rights Watch noted.

In its attempt to create more local employment to tackle an unemployment rate of more than 12per cent and lure more residents into the workforce, the government's crackdown on foreign workers has had unintended consequences.

About 40per cent of small construction firms have stopped work because their foreign workers couldn't get proper visas, Khalaf al-Otaibi, president of the World Federation of Trade, Industry and Economics in the Middle East, told Arab News.

And the state-backed Saudi Gazette reported that 20,000 schools are without janitors, while many bakeries, supermarkets, gas stations and cafes have been forced to close due to the labour shortages.



Read more: Unrest as Saudi Arabia expels foreign workers


1. The Saudis plan to get rid of millions of foreign workers from the country. They kicked out 0.8 million Yemenis in 1991 at the time of the first gulf war.

2. The Saudi regime as usual are incompetent and stupid and have not done this properly.

- They have killed Africans.
- There are reports of rape and torture by the Saudi regime authorities.
- The Saudi economy is now suffering.
- Garbage bins are piling up.
- The entire globe and world media is looking in disgust at the country and regime.
- 40% of their construction firms, a multi-billion dollar industry, have stopped working.
- The jobs which these foreign workers were doing will not be filled up by Saudis and even if a few do they will not be as good as the hardworking foreigners that did them. This will decrease productivity and harm the Saudi economy.

3. This comes at a time when Saudi Arabia has had arguments with:

- Russia (who has indirectly threatened to invade the country according to some, i.e. America has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, Russia may show that it can do the same.)
- China
- America
- Turkey
- The UN


Saudi Arabia has been funding the destabilization and destruction of Syria and thought nothing would happen to it, now we see rubbish piling up in Saudi cities, riots, international outrage and this is only the beginning.

The Shia in eastern Saudi Arabia have not even started their own uprising properly.

Saudi Arabia - Protest against killing of Shia youths in Qatif by Al-Saud forces - YouTube

Saudi shootout and crackdown***** By ChacharZac - YouTube

Saudi clashes video: Police fire live rounds on Shiite protesters in Qatif - YouTube

Saudi Arabia has a long border with Iraq as well as a coastline opposite Iran, thus weapons can be smuggled to the Shia one way or another.

Aside from the Shia other Saudi citizens are dissatisfied too.

SHOCKING Civil war to ERUPT in Saudi Arabia - MASS PROTESTS to begin - YouTube

The Saudi regime and Al-Saud tribe need to start behaving themselves and stop interfering in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Bangladesh because otherwise instead of gloating at turmoil in other countries they will be dealing with their own problems.

The Al-Saud tribe itself is becoming more and more divided and people who have alternative views to or are opponents of the Abdullah dictatorship include:

- Waleed bin Talal
- Basma bint Saud (One of the 115 children of former "king", Saud)
- Khalid bin Farhan

and others.

Saudi prince defects: 'Brutality, oppression as govt scared of Arab revolts' (EXCLUSIVE) - YouTube

Some claim there are 40,000 political prisoners in Saudi. That could be at least 100-200,000 people who have a family member in prison.

However these 0.1-0.2 million families each belong to a tribe as Saudi Arabia is a tribal society.

All of these hundreds of thousands of "Saudis" yearn in their heart for an end to this tyranny, this yearning in their heart Islamically counts as "du'a" (supplication), and the du'a of the mazloom (oppressed) is mustajaab (accepted).

So dictator Abdullah Al-Saud and the other GCC regimes in the region will have to be very careful since if they do not behave themselves their days could be over.

[Bengal_Tiger]

yes there was also bangladeshis who killed their own people for pakistans imperialism and interests in this region but the reason for this was still not soudi arabia wrora thats just what i wanna say in my bad englisi

1. Saudi Arabia had no direct role in the 1971 war. I accept that.

2. However the Saudis need to get their act together.

Also ignore foul-mouthed trolls who object to international affairs being discussed in the "World news" section, there are plenty of Pashtun topics on this forum (95%) and I myself have started some of them and posted in others.

If they cannot comment on the topic they should not comment at all and just ignore it.

What happens in Saudi Arabia (the land where bin Laden came from, the man whose capture was sought by the Americans and lead to the invasion of Afghanistan) affects the Muslim world including Pashtuns in many ways.

[Khilji]

1. Saudi Arabia had no direct role in the 1971 war. I accept that.

2. However the Saudis need to get their act together.

Also ignore foul-mouthed trolls who object to international affairs being discussed in the "World news" section, there are plenty of Pashtun topics on this forum (95%) and I myself have started some of them and posted in others.

If they cannot comment on the topic they should not comment at all and just ignore it.

What happens in Saudi Arabia (the land where bin Laden came from, the man whose capture was sought by the Americans and lead to the invasion of Afghanistan) affects the Muslim world including Pashtuns in many ways.

i thank you for this topic!
it would be interesting to know what americas role was in the napakistani/ bangladesh conflict. the usa are the puppetmaster for a long time of pakistan like they was in iran when they installed the shah paghlavi (La).it is the usa that controlling the pakistani army chiefs-the real ruler of napakistan for a long time. the usa installed trained and brought to power warlords dictators kings-shah's supported trained and activated people like bin ladin.would be great if you could send me some informations about USA's role in this conflict, tashakor wrora.

[Bengal_Tiger]

i thank you for this topic!
it would be interesting to know what americas role was in the napakistani/ bangladesh conflict. the usa are the puppetmaster for a long time of pakistan like they was in iran when they installed the shah paghlavi (La).it is the usa that controlling the pakistani army chiefs-the real ruler of napakistan for a long time. the usa installed trained and brought to power warlords dictators kings-shah's supported trained and activated people like bin ladin.would be great if you could send me some informations about USA's role in this conflict, tashakor wrora.

1. America supported the West Pakistanis as Mujib and his allies including Wali Khan and his Pashtun nationalists (Mujib and Wali were part of a coalition and if Mujib had won, Wali would have been in the government, possibly foreign minister) were leftists, and thus - in American eyes - possibly sympathetic to the USSR (Wali Khan actually was).

In the 1971 war the American diplomats in Dhaka were shocked at the sheer bloodshed and carnage going on, being carried out by the Pakistani army, that the famous "Blood Telegram" was sent. Henry Kissinger ended up removing Graham Blood (who the Blood telegram was named after) from his post.

Archer Blood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. The US wanted to send its 7th fleet based in Singapore to help the Pakistanis but got scared when the Soviets sent in a nuclear naval force.

The Americans got scared and history has repeated itself with the Russians sending in naval forces to defend Syria from American attack and the Americans backing off.

The British and the Americans had planned a coordinated pincer to intimidate India: while the British ships in the Arabian Sea would target India’s western coast, the Americans would make a dash into the Bay of Bengal in the east where 100,000 Pakistani troops were caught between the advancing Indian troops and the sea.

To counter this two-pronged British-American threat, Russia dispatched a nuclear-armed flotilla from Vladivostok on December 13 under the overall command of Admiral Vladimir Kruglyakov, the Commander of the 10th Operative Battle Group (Pacific Fleet). Though the Russian fleet comprised a good number of nuclear-armed ships and atomic submarines, their missiles were of limited range (less than 300 km). Hence to effectively counter the British and American fleets the Russian commanders had to undertake the risk of encircling them to bring them within their target. This they did with military precision.

In an interview to a Russian TV programme after his retirement, Admiral Kruglyakov, who commanded the Pacific Fleet from 1970 to 1975, recalled that Moscow ordered the Russian ships to prevent the Americans and British from getting closer to “Indian military objects”. The genial Kruglyakov added: “The Chief Commander’s order was that our submarines should surface when the Americans appear. It was done to demonstrate to them that we had nuclear submarines in the Indian Ocean. So when our subs surfaced, they recognised us. In the way of the American Navy stood the Soviet cruisers, destroyers and atomic submarines equipped with anti-ship missiles. We encircled them and trained our missiles at the Enterprise. We blocked them and did not allow them to close in on Karachi, Chittagong or Dhaka."
At this point, the Russians intercepted a communication from the commander of the British carrier battle group, Admiral Dimon Gordon, to the Seventh Fleet commander: “Sir, we are too late. There are the Russian atomic submarines here, and a big collection of battleships.” The British ships fled towards Madagascar while the larger US task force stopped before entering the Bay of Bengal.

The Russian manoeuvres clearly helped prevent a direct clash between India and the US-UK combine

1971 War: How Russia sank Nixon


The 1971 Bangladesh war could have exploded in to a global nuclear war, but the Americans were scared by the Soviet naval forces and backed off.

Eventually Bangladesh won its freedom.

70 million Muslims of Bangladesh got their own state, traitor general Yahya Khan of Pakistan was humiliated, though he had been busy having sex parties in Peshawar and other places and his girlfriend was the owner of a brothel, the infamous "General Ranee".

Bangladesh is now a free and independent Muslim nation.



Bangladeshi prime minister, Hasina Wajid, saluting at Russia's unknown soldier monument.



Grave of a Russian naval soldier who died in Bangladesh.

[Khilji]

1. America supported the West Pakistanis as Mujib and his allies including Wali Khan and his Pashtun nationalists (Mujib and Wali were part of a coalition and if Mujib had won, Wali would have been in the government, possibly foreign minister) were leftists, and thus - in American eyes - possibly sympathetic to the USSR (Wali Khan actually was).

In the 1971 war the American diplomats in Dhaka were shocked at the sheer bloodshed and carnage going on that the famous "Blood Telegram" was sent.

Archer Blood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. The US wanted to send its 7th fleet based in Singapore to help the Pakistanis but got scared when the Soviets sent in a nuclear naval force.

The Americans got scared and history has repeated itself with the Russians sending in naval forces to defend Syria from American attack and the Americans backing off.




1971 War: How Russia sank Nixon


The 1971 Bangladesh war could have exploded in to a global nuclear war, but the Americans were scared by the Soviet naval forces and backed off.

Eventually Bangladesh won its freedom.



Bangladeshi prime minister, Hasina Wajid, saluting at Russia's unknown soldier monument.



Grave of a Russian naval soldier who died in Bangladesh.

Bangladesh won its freedom And Independence and Inshallah (swt) that will never in lifetime change for ever green bangladesh.thank you very much for the information wrora.

[Bengal_Tiger]

By the way the Bangladeshi right-wing consider the foundation of modern Bangladesh to have originated in the 13th century with the conquest of an Afghan (Turk) from Garamsir called Bakhtiyar Khilji.


Ikhtiyar Uddin Muhammad bin Bakhtiyar Khilji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bakhtiyar Khalji inaugurated Muslim rule in Bengal by conquering its northwestern part in early 1205 AD. A native of Garamsir (modern Dasht-i-Marg) in northern Afghanistan,

Bakhtiyar was a good administrator. He divided the kingdom into a number of districts and assigned them to the care of his principal nobles and military chiefs. They were entrusted with the duty of maintaining peace and order, collecting revenues, patronising learning and culture and looking after the moral and material well being of the people. Following the traditional principle he took steps to read the Khutbah and to introduce coins in his name. He built a new capital on the site of Gaur and established two cantonment towns near Dinajpur and Rangpur. He named his administrative divisions iqta and the governor of an iqta was designated as muqta. He built numerous mosques, madrasas and khanqahs.

BANGLAPEDIA: Bakhtiyar Khalji


To the Bangladesh right-wing, Khilji from Garamsir, Afghanistan is what Muhammad bin Qasim is to the Pakistanis or Osman I is to the Turks, the founder or what would be the origins of their modern state.

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