French police corner Al-Qaeda suspect after shootings

[Karpo]

Wow so Al-Jazeera have been a Zionist media consortium all this time? That's astonishing, I wonder how they got HAMAS Interior Minister Sa'id Siyam to do a 30 minute interview, accompany HAMAS Military Wing members in prisoner exchanges and even get accused by the Israeli Government for having HAMAS Operatives as Editorial and Managerial Chiefs at the network. I man not even networks in America who are overtly Zionist or even in Israel would do such things as work with HAMAS members. But of course that is just the illuminati game of pretending to be your own enemy right? Amazing what excuses we can invent, I mean doesn't matter that Ad-Hominem against a source is a logical fallacy and does not invalidate the truth value of things stated, that can all be ignored, from higher knowledge through the tin foil hat.

You ignore the massacre in Kandahar by US soldiers, confirmed by Afghan Army Chief and Parliament, and yet, train your focus on this single crime in France committed by a criminal who HAPPENS to be MUSLIM

[JattApache]

The killer is a jihadist
He went in afghanistan 2 times

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You ignore the massacre in Kandahar by US soldiers, confirmed by Afghan Army Chief and Parliament, and yet, train your focus on this single crime in France committed by a criminal who HAPPENS to be MUSLIM

No I don't, I've acknowledged it many times and even co-authored/signed a petition to have him indicted in Afghanistan rather than the U.S. military courts. Have you done that? What have you done to serve the cause of justice? Don't speak about what you don't know, just because someone hasn't done it here, doesn't prove anything, after all I am new

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You ignore the massacre in Kandahar by US soldiers, confirmed by Afghan Army Chief and Parliament, and yet, train your focus on this single crime in France committed by a criminal who HAPPENS to be MUSLIM

That's what the thread is about, my specific post is about some silly comment one of the Saudi influenced bunch relayed.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

you use each and every chance just like amir soldat boy to demonise muslims for resisting and defending their country.
you are giving us the US rhetoric "hey they are murdering their own civilians ,they are evil,and if they dont we will do soem bombings to attribute to them"."Suidcide bomber attacks a BAZAAR" that is nothing but emoptional blackmail done by americans to justify their invasion and all you do is parroting their rhetoric and dance to the their tune.We Afghans/muslims arent stupid.

you have no true argument just american recylced propaganda which they dont even use themselves anymore.

just because you dont share the same belief as Afghans you think you can sit here and talk **** about them as if your western propaganda is of any significants.

Not sure how to respond to this other than you're merely interpolating what you desire to portray. Not saying something in a thread, especially considering my account is two days old means nothing and demonstrates nothing.

There are many flaws in your claims, he first flaw is claiming that the people you claim are merely "resisting" can even legitimately be called Muslims according to the standards of Islamic Law. The Second flaw is assuming that what they're doing is "resistance". By Logical analysis the techniques they use, such as tyrannizing civilians and deliberate use of suicide bombing tactics during civilian presence would invalidate the claim of resistance. By definition it can't be emotional black mail or propaganda, because it actually happens, and we know it happens because they take credit for it. Please Show us that these murderers have never taken credit for a suicide attack that has killed civilians?

Your counter argument is therefore void of merit from the get go, and falsified by evidential data so if anything You're trying to emotionally black mail Muslims, calling murderers resistant. The point isn't who says what, the Point is the Truth Value of what is being said.

You can regurgitate a narrative and manufacture a spin doctoring ritual as you just tried to do; but when Truth Values are concerned, you can't spin doctor around any of that. You represent the people who oppress Muslims, not resistance.

[IamDZJ]

The killer is a jihadist
He went in afghanistan 2 times

God knows how many innocent live he took in Afghanistan.

[Afghanistan2010]

Governor of Kandahar said : It is a lie that he was ever in Afghanistan we had never a French guy here.

Furthermore it is really bad for the muslims in france who will become the target of the authorities because of this incident.

Israel will meet its fate in the coming years,our cubs are becoming lions.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

so accoring to you aljazeera is not a western propaganda tool but a true muslims channel(well they are ayrabs so they must be good).

offcourse from time to time they will put some truth in the ness as well,other wise they will fade out like what happend to CNN.
you sound like those people who take the 9/11 commision report as verses of the quran while calling the truth movement or occupied movement as conspiracy theorists.
you can put your head under sand as much as you want but dont expect us to follow you there.
there is no excuse buddy,straight facts and i can proof to you how aljazeera manipulates news ,would you like me to?

the word tin foil hat is used to ridicule people who actually have a critical way of thinking and not going with the official version but offcourse you dont wear tin foil hat your head is under sand.

You have in this post exhibited everything except a critical way of thinking. Just recently you were pretending to censure racism against Arabs yet you use the typical Racial/Ethnic pejorative of "ayrab"; how you switch faces when it comes to people who pervert religion to commit injustices are involved.

The post was in response to the claim that al-Jazeera are a Zionist media outlet. Let me guess Al-Jazeera is only true when it reveals news which can be spun by people like yourself to exonerate/vindicate the Taliban, but an evil "bastion of Zionist propaganda" when it reveals that the Taliban are perpetrators of heinous crimes, not excluding murdering women and children, much like their NATO counterparts do.

The expression Tin Foil Hat is used to ridicule those who DON'T critical thinking. It is used to highlight when individuals, who actually lack any conclusive or sufficient, appropriate/valid historical context or demonstrable basis for their arguments just invent their own stories to fill in the gap. This is everything BUT critical thinking but rather a form of modern day blind superstition. Whether the 9-11 Truth Commission or Occupy Movement reflect this is debatable, but Tin Foil Hat is a correct designation to describe people who carry your mode of analyzing situations.




wear your crown proudly Cletus.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

you can say all the saudi and wahabi all you want still you wont make sense.
it is in your dna to lie and deceive and under the name of criticism do nothing but try to margenalise muslims and tell Afghans that they have no right to resist occupation.
there is no saudi influence in Afghanistan,it is between you ears.

Oh no? Then why are so many of the members who support the Taliban always quoting Saudi Government paid scholars in support of their views?

[Al Hanif]

Furthermore it is really bad for the muslims in france who will become the target of the authorities because of this incident.

Indeed... it's already starting

[khushal]

Not sure how to respond to this other than you're merely interpolating what you desire to portray. Not saying something in a thread, especially considering my account is two days old means nothing and demonstrates nothing.

There are many flaws in your claims, he first flaw is claiming that the people you claim are merely "resisting" can even legitimately be called Muslims according to the standards of Islamic Law. The Second flaw is assuming that what they're doing is "resistance". By Logical analysis the techniques they use, such as tyrannizing civilians and deliberate use of suicide bombing tactics during civilian presence would invalidate the claim of resistance. By definition it can't be emotional black mail or propaganda, because it actually happens, and we know it happens because they take credit for it. Please Show us that these murderers have never taken credit for a suicide attack that has killed civilians?

Your counter argument is therefore void of merit from the get go, and falsified by evidential data so if anything You're trying to emotionally black mail Muslims, calling murderers resistant. The point isn't who says what, the Point is the Truth Value of what is being said.

You can regurgitate a narrative and manufacture a spin doctoring ritual as you just tried to do; but when Truth Values are concerned, you can't spin doctor around any of that. You represent the people who oppress Muslims, not resistance.

The Taliban is not a unified force, every area has a local emir that just fight under the taliban flag. Afghansitan is in a chaotic state and their are many groups who operate, some for the interests for the afghan people and some are working agaisnt the interests of the afghan people. There are many ISI assasins that kill good people to keep its strategic depth. There is too much evidence that suggest that the haqquanis work strictly for ISI interests and not for the afghan peoples interests.

Right now the average afghan blames the foreign troop presence for this chaotic state even though the foreign troops maybe or may not be the cause, that is just the way the average afghan sees it. Once the foreign troop presence dissapears, then they will shift blame to people that are working against the afghan peoples interests.

The world is witness to it when the Taliban came down from Kandahar and swooped through the country like wild fire because the warlords were not working for the interests of the people. The Taliban did change its peaceful message of bringing security and bannishing the warlords at the beginning and took a more extremist side towards the end, I dont know why but their downfall happened so quickly becasue they were too extreme.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

you wrote alot of garbage and your tactic is that of soldat boy but he is atleast honest about himself.

just because your problem with Afghans is that they dont share you mutazillah deviant belief thats why in your eyes their shariah and Islam is not legitimiate along with their legitimate resistance.

you may use all the "intelectual" words but those dont mean anything when we all here know all you do is chat ****.

so go to hell with your lies and accusations.
shouldnt you be out there burning Qurans to justify your hate for the civilians who protested in Afghanistan against the agression of your country.

Buddy, you're all over the place, try to focus, This isn't a debate about different theological schools; this is about oppression, injustice and heinous murder, especially of the defenseless and the cowards who perpetuate such acts, whether it is the Taliban, U.S. soldiers or this Frank. Their Shari'ah is deviant because it violates established moral statutes of Islam regarding the safe guarding the lives of Muslims. Just because some Pakistani Deobandi scholar gives the green light doesn't mean it is ok, or because some Wahhabist in Saudi say it is ok makes it so.

There is nothing specifically intellectual here, just simple use of reason, hence why your counter response is merely to say "To hell with you" and evade around it and steer into tangents, because Truth is not on your side.

[khushal]

because Truth is not on your side.

Truth does not pick a side, it is us who choose or not choose the side of truth

[Wahe Guru]

Buddy, you're all over the place, try to focus, This isn't a debate about different theological schools; this is about oppression, injustice and heinous murder, especially of the defenseless and the cowards who perpetuate such acts, whether it is the Taliban, U.S. soldiers or this Frank. Their Shari'ah is deviant because it violates established moral statutes of Islam regarding the safe guarding the lives of Muslims. Just because some Pakistani Deobandi scholar gives the green light doesn't mean it is ok, or because some Wahhabist in Saudi say it is ok makes it so.

There is nothing specifically intellectual here, just simple use of reason, hence why your counter response is merely to say "To hell with you" and evade around it and steer into tangents, because Truth is not on your side.

Sorry I don't have time to read all the comments in this thread, but I agree with you here and the other guy - he sounds wrong as usual.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

YEAH RIGHT,Haji Farid is Saudi paid.
Show me one person from Afghan Ullema who support your lies.
HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND PASHTO MY INGORANT FRIEND
Ustad Haji Farid about Taliban - YouTube

Ustad Haji Farid doesn't even have credentials to be a scholar. Nevermind whether or not somebody pays him. He doesn't even factor into this nexus.
You should really do more reading.

http://books.google.com/books?id=wR-4qmiOAvUC&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189&dq=saudi+sheikhs+Taliban&source=bl&ots=VG-bk3VtzV&sig=-zlcGlfB5xYS7gnX-eYG6OH90QM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DktqT5i3LeHy0gHz6biVCQ&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=saudi%20sheikhs%20Taliban&f=false