The Immorality of Child Abuse

[unknownprince]

You can discuss that in a thread that you yourself can open.

I want to see discussion here on this topic

Islam prohibits and punishes crime ruthlessly

The instructions are very clear in this regard

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

AT FORUM ADMIN

this is an open insulting to the pashtun community how can one tolerate this.

like the shrieking cries of a Pashtun child being sexually assaulted, your pleas to the admin will be ignored

the Amir may be a non believing jack daniels drinking womanizer, but on every central issue, he knows and understands his people well

i have spent 2 months of my 28 yrs in afghanistan but i know my people

sexual abuse of children is a serious problem in our community. we need to highlight this problem and eradicate it

yet we have pakhtuns who have the nerve to make threads about pedophilia in other countries and attach a religious connotation to it

do u not understand that as a pakhtun youre the last person to be talkin about this, and that attaching religious connotations to this act is the LAST thing u want to be doing?

[Michin Khel]

AT FORUM ADMIN

this is an open insulting to the pashtun community how can one tolerate this.

Why? Amir is right, pedestry exists in pashtun society. there are even some pashtun areas where beresh boys need burqa more than girls to avoid sexual harassement. You live in west , how can you know about this aspect of pashtun society

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

You can discuss that in a thread that you yourself can open.

I want to see discussion here on this topic

Islam prohibits and punishes crime ruthlessly

The instructions are very clear in this regard

well christianity doesnt support child molestation and athiest secular countries have laws against it

despite all this, it occurs in all countries and societies

but ure interested in scoring cheap points on other faiths

this makes u seem insecure. this may lead one to believe muslims are insecure

the Amir is not a Muslim but since his traditions are Islamic and his people and family are Islamic he supports Islam and the Islamic community and wishes it the best and hopes to see it succeed

hence u should listen to my words, it is for the best. never never doubt the Amir

[Afghanistan2010]

like the shrieking cries of a Pashtun child being sexually assaulted, your pleas to the admin will be ignored

the Amir may be a non believing jack daniels drinking Manizer, but on every central issue, he knows and understands his people well

i have spent 2 months of my 28 yrs in afghanistan but i know my people

sexual abuse of children is a serious problem in our community. we need to highlight this problem and eradicate it

yet we have pakhtuns who have the nerve to make threads about pedophilia in other countries and attach a religious connotation to it

do u not understand that as a pakhtun youre the last person to be talkin about this, and that attaching religious connotations to this act is the LAST thing u want to be doing?

My young friends,there maybe a problem in your family or the family of your tribe,but not ALL PASHTUN ARE LIKE THAT,we are muslims and we opposse such doings,and only people like you who stops others from talking about this problem make it a common thing among pashtuns.

this means for me you two are supporters of bachabazi (which is common among the northern provinces (non pashtuns).And that brings me to the conclusion that you both are non pashtuns and enemies of pashtuns.

It is known in Peshwar child abuse but to all world :

I DO NOT CONSIDER MAJORITY OF PESHAWRI AS PASHTUNS OR EVEN CLOSE TO PASHTUN.

AND I DO NOT CONSIDER ANYONE WHO IS NONMUSLIM OR SHIA AS PASHTUN.

[Afghanistan2010]

well christianity doesnt support child molestation and athiest secular countries have laws against it

despite all this, it occurs in all countries and societies

but ure interested in scoring cheap points on other faiths

this makes u seem insecure. this may lead one to believe muslims are insecure

the Amir is not a Muslim but since his traditions are Islamic and his people and family are Islamic he supports Islam and the Islamic community and wishes it the best and hopes to see it succeed

hence u should listen to my words, it is for the best. never never doubt the Amir

I live in one such state :

if you download illegal things ( games , music,etc) you will get five years prison.

if you rape a child or other abuse ....up to 2 years prison and that is the highest.


good laws ,that will bring protection to the children.

[R3SISTANC3]

While I disagree with the assertion that atheism leads to pedophilia, I find it very interesting that a follower of Mohammad would actually have a problem with that.... It seems that pedophilia is something that your religion should take fairly lightly, given it's history in your religion.

I disagree with the assertion of the title of this topic too, however I also disagree with your assertion that somehow Islam condones pedophilia and your reference to Prophet Mohammad SAW could only mean that he either practiced it or supported it. You need to back it up with evidence. If you are going to state his marriage to Aisha RA, I'd suggest research the profile of a Pedophile before commenting on the subject.

The followers of Mohammad SAW will have a problem with any abnormal, sexual obsession or perversion, whether that be pedophilia, necrophilia or homosexuality. Any sexual activity outside of the natural bounds and functions of procreation is considered problematic (haram) according to Islamic teachings.

[unknownprince]

well christianity doesnt support child molestation and athiest secular countries have laws against it

despite all this, it occurs in all countries and societies

but ure interested in scoring cheap points on other faiths

this makes u seem insecure. this may lead one to believe muslims are insecure

the Amir is not a Muslim but since his traditions are Islamic and his people and family are Islamic he supports Islam and the Islamic community and wishes it the best and hopes to see it succeed

hence u should listen to my words, it is for the best. never never doubt the Amir

There is high incidence of Christian priests involved in child rape. This is internationally and infamously well known information. Christianity has been changed multiple times and is in fact a paganistic faith. Atheist societies appear to be terming pedophilia as a mental sickness to be treated, not as a crime. http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/pedophilia.htm This is one of the major reasons it is so widespread throughout the US and the West. Child porn is increasingly seen as art. Dakota Fanning was made to star in a sex scene despite her young age, and this was a Hollywood movie. This is an example of child porn marketed to the Hollywood audience, It appears that athiest secular societies encourage and condone this. Is Dakota Fanning in kiddie porn? - Slate Magazine

So the facts speak more than the thoughts

[unknownprince]

why has my title been changed?

[Insaaf_انصاف]

why has my title been changed?

Because you're a troll, and you just wanted to trolling every time

[Tjanaparh]

That is a pretty flimsy definition...

what about the punishment that society deals for sin's that don't cause any pain. And how you define pain? Is loss of property painful? Is consumption of alcohol painful?

Then even going by your own definition if the act is consensual between the two parties ...then there is no sin? Even if it is a 12 year old boy and an old man?

I do not know what means flimsy.
Pain is what brings the soul out of its natural state of peace!
About the rest of questions shouldn't be difficult to answer.
Lust brings the soul out of its peacefull state, so if there is consense or not it does not change so much.
Alcohol consumtion does same bring the soul out of peace....

[graveyardofempires]

why has my title been changed?

because they hate the truth and love them lies.

or

beacuse they hate muslims and love atheists

or

i dont know

[Insaaf_انصاف]

because they hate the truth and love them lies.

or

beacuse they hate muslims and love atheists

or

i dont know

" They " is the moderators who change the title

And I don't think that they hate muslims and love atheists

They just hate trolls like you and unknownprince .

[IamDZJ]

Domestic violence happens everywhere in the world. It is not a problem specific to Afghanistan.
Now if you were to do a survey and study the data and compare Afghanistan to other third world countries, like liberia or even Mexico, Afghanistan MAY fair better simply owing to its cultural values, and not economical circumstances....this statement would be open to debate. You can make a separate thread and we could probably investigate this. Although I have met girls from wealthy family that have been sexually abused by their own father in the west...so who knows?

You make it sound like you are already an expert on the issue but you don't have the data to back up any of your supposition.

Unlike you, I don't hold an opinion on an issue unless I know the facts. I am open minded enough to reconsider my position here but so far your arguments have been whimsical, to say the least. A thirTEEN year old is a teenager and not a "preteen". In most societies adulthood begins with puberty. In western society you become an adult when you are old enough to buy liquor...because it is assumed you can drink more responsibly then?

This is all related -- it seems that your concept of marriage goes beyound the biological functions of mother/father as nurturer/provider....its about "love"? These are the romantic fancies that Hollywood/Bollywood profits a great deal from. This type of attitude validates the claims of such organizations as NAMBLA. That if "erotic love" is the pivotal purpose of marriages, then anyone who loves can pair-bond...be they of the same sexes. Since homosexuality in the western world is celebrated as a way of life, the claim for paedophiles doesn't lay far.

Celine dion met her husband when she was 12 years old ...he was 38 years old.

why are you using celine dion who probably became an adult after she got her permit to buy liquor as an example to prove your point? wealthy people raping their own children in the west?? your efforts have made it clear that people in the west are **** ups...so if they are **** ups then why are you using them as an example to justify what is happening in our holy land? on one hand you are arguing against them and then on the other hand you are telling me that just because they do this and that, it's okay for afghans to do the same??

the data doesn't matter. if three women in one village were burned alive, it does not mean the one burned in the other village should not be provided with any justice.
i don't want my 13 year old married to a 60 year old man under any circumstances and i don't want the same happening to anyone else's child for similar reasons and don't tell me every one has the right to do whatever they wish to do with their children because that would justify people raping and selling their daughters to become sex slaves on a very similar scale to those who wed off their daughters in a marriage which provides them no rights and are treated no better than sex slaves.
liquor is not the only thing you can get once you become of a legal age in the west. you can't buy a home before that, you can't start your own business...you can't drive...and WHY DO YOU CONSTANTLY BRING THE WEST IN IT? i never claimed to wanting a society similar to the west, i want a better one.
my concept of a marriage goes beyond the ability to produce human life. okay? maybe if we had married couples who were capable of having meaningful conversations and debating with each other about the future of their children, they would raise proper children who would be of some use to the society. our country wouldn't be in the mess that it is now. no body would be beating their wives, no body would run away on their husbands, no body would have their noses chopped off of them for having done that and nobody would be pouring acid on the face of someone who rejected him. yeah, and there would be plenty of love.

the rest of societies ( including afghanistan) are not immune to pedophilia or homosexuality.

[IamDZJ]

instead of worrying about our own people and finding solutions for our own problems, we have been constantly fixating over the west all our lives. **** them, worry about yourself.