The Immorality of Child Abuse

[IamDZJ]

^ why should i even bother to argue with you if you can't even be bothered with yourself to read my posts?
i don't have the time nor the patience to have the same conversation with every idiot in this forum. i read half of your last post and then i got bored so i glanced at the last sentenced and discovered that you don't even read my posts because you don't find the answer to your questions "significant" enough. some rationality that is.

everything that you have asked me so far has already been discussed. if you want a discussion then go read them and come up with new questions. if you don't care enough to do that then stop repeating the same **** over and over again.

[graveyardofempires]

^
your posts are ong but you hardly say anythign that makes sense.

so its waste of time to read your posts.

[JAMALUDEEN]

^ why should i even bother to argue with you if you can't even be bothered with yourself to read my posts?
i don't have the time nor the patience to have the same conversation with every idiot in this forum. i read half of your last post and then i got bored so i glanced at the last sentenced and discovered that you don't even read my posts because you don't find the answer to your questions "significant" enough. some rationality that is.

everything that you have asked me so far has already been discussed. if you want a discussion then go read them and come up with new questions. if you don't care enough to do that then stop repeating the same **** over and over again.

appeal to emotion and fear..

you can't debate with me..bro..

your arguments are dumb..no offence..

[Soldat_Amir]

Jamal

[Soldat_Amir]

I find it quite insulting that people accuse secularists of being causers of child abuse.

Not only is it insulting but quite misinforming. People who live in a secular country are given equal rights regardless of their religion,race and creed, however if one looks at Saudi Arabia and the following video you can see quite clearly the difference

[JAMALUDEEN]

Jamal

and how is that related to the topic...in the first post?

[IamDZJ]

Jamalo the stupidity that the presence of some of you tends to exude is enough to scar and traumatize anyone for a lifetime but worry not, I have become immune to it.

[JAMALUDEEN]

I find it quite insulting that people accuse secularists of being causers of child abuse.

Not only is it insulting but quite misinforming. People who live in a secular country are given equal rights regardless of their religion,race and creed, however if one looks at Saudi Arabia and the following video you can see quite clearly the difference

if you love secularism, then leave Afghanistan alone and let the people decide for themselve...

Also, how is this again related to the topic in the first post?

[JAMALUDEEN]

Jamalo the stupidity that the presence of some of you tends to exude is enough to scar and traumatize anyone for a lifetime but worry not, I have become immune to it.

yes, you are right... your stupidity has scarred and traumatized me.. but i have always been immune to the scarr and trauma from stupid people.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

if you love secularism, then leave Afghanistan alone and let the people decide for themselve...

Also, how is this again related to the topic in the first post?

Didn't know you were also influenced by secularism so much.

"And let the people decide for themselves" is the core of all secular belief and this is precisely what Maseed and I believe in. Religious belief, on the other hand, says, "implement it by force for you are on God's mission".

[Alchemist]

I think we can put the stamp of "mentally colonized" on DJ.Z's forehead.
Any moral objections by her should be scrutinized as it may be owing to her inferiority complex.

As for the Amir's objection - we know what the flaws are. Afghanistan has been struggling to thwart off western influence for over a century now. The big game between the russians and english from the 19th century and now in the 21st century the americans. I don't mean the influence of Islam and arabia by all means - We Afghans have had just as much impact on Arabs as they have had on us - Ibn Sina, Al Biruni, Sayed Jamalduin...Bukhari the hadith collector, Abu Hanifa the founder of the most popular madhab...All great scholars and all from Afghanistan. Where as now we have sell outs like Khalilzad and Karzai that have brought corruptions of all sorts into Afghanistan. Fitna is worse than Qatil... And they are putting guns into the hands of Afghans and telling them to fight their own like the russians did before them. And all for what? What does Afghanistan have that they want so badly?

Faye...
Don't just jump into any discussion without reading the Original Post. An atheist professor of Ethics at a university is rationalizing paedophilia on the grounds that morality only exists when one believes in God. Your response to that is - "Show me the data?" ...this is to show how vile atheism is when it publicly decrees its ammorality.
The argument isn't atheism vs religion - If that were the case, the Talmude specifically states that a Rabi can sexually molest a baby infant! The discussion has turned this way because very time the flaws of atheism are pointed out..the messenger is attacked in an attempt to poison the well.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Didn't know you were also influenced by secularism so much.

"And let the people decide for themselves" is the core of all secular belief and this is precisely what Maseed and I believe in. Religious belief, on the other hand, says, "implement it by force for you are on God's mission".

nice try....

but wrong..

Religious belief says..that it is every muslims duty to implement shariah.

shame!

[Alchemist]

Didn't know you were also influenced by secularism so much.

"And let the people decide for themselves" is the core of all secular belief and this is precisely what Maseed and I believe in. Religious belief, on the other hand, says, "implement it by force for you are on God's mission".

Fallacious. The core of all secular beleif is separation of church and state.
If the people choose "church" as state then secularism is defeated.

Hence the outcry in the west when sharia proponents are elected in tunisia and egypt

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

nice try....

but wrong..

Religious belief says..that it is every muslims duty to implement shariah.

shame!

Which is another way of saying, "implement it by force for you are on God's mission".

But I'm surprised you believe that we should let the people decide. I guess there's hope after all.

[IamDZJ]

alchemist you are a coward. As I said, I would like to see you follow sharia and wed off your daughter at 13. Same goes to jamalo and anyone else thinking I am insane for being against.