If God exists...

[Haider Bangash 2.0]

If he exists, why hasn't science after 1400 years verify this?

AOA,
In science, there is no absolute proof or 'absolute truth'. You either reject a theory based on evidence(s) or support it based on evidence(s). A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. So, so far, science hasn't been able to give a conclusive answer as to where this whole universe come from/how-where did it come from. Until that question is answered conclusively, we can't reject the notion of a "creator". So, you may BELIEVE that there is no God, but you can't CLAIM for sure that there is no God, because that will put the burden of proof on you to disprove God, which you won't be able to do.
And someone asked if God created everything then who created God. Well, the definition of "God" may vary from people to people, but in the context of our beliefs, if a "god" is "created" then that "god" doesn't remain a God (in the sense that we take the word 'God'). Based on our beliefs, God can't be created (i.e. He was before all things, so that nothing can be said to be before Him).
How do we know God's existence? Through His creation.
lol BTW, I guarantee you that even after thousands year of this post, science won't be able to answer this question "Where does it all begin?". It's just not possible to answer this question scientifically.

[AgnosticPashtana]

First of all, dear friend, you can't bring up points and then ignore them when they are being addressed. In this manner you will always reject God.

To answer your question: Every religion is an entity by itself and a part of Islam. Islam is the evolution of the summit of religions.

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i would like us to focus on the verse you brought up as an example to show that Islam is man-made.

I think that at the time the Quran was being written they took at look at the socio-economic affairs and wrote such similar verses. The Quran was made in my opinion to rule its people at its time and have them all under control.

That is why many verses condemn friendship with Jews. Why cant a Muslim woman marry a Hindu for example?

[AgnosticPashtana]

AOA,
In science, there is no absolute proof or 'absolute truth'. You either reject a theory based on evidence(s) or support it based on evidence(s). A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. So, so far, science hasn't been able to give a conclusive answer as to where this whole universe come from/how-where did it come from. Until that question is answered conclusively, we can't reject the notion of a "creator". So, you may BELIEVE that there is no God, but you can't CLAIM for sure that there is no God, because that will put the burden of proof on you to disprove God, which you won't be able to do.
And someone asked if God created everything then who created God. Well, the definition of "God" may vary from people to people, but in the context of our beliefs, if a "god" is "created" then that "god" doesn't remain a God (in the sense that we take the word 'God'). Based on our beliefs, God can't be created (i.e. He was before all things, so that nothing can be said to be before Him).
How do we know God's existence? Through His creation.
lol BTW, I guarantee you that even after thousands year of this post, science won't be able to answer this question "Where does it all begin?". It's just not possible to answer this question scientifically.

Fair enough, I agree with your post but based on what should I revert back to Islam? I just want to see the light.

[AgnosticPashtana]

Khorasani guy mocks one sect calling them deviant.
****es think Sunnis are wrong.
Sunnis think Shias are wrong.
Sufis think Khorasani dudes sect is wrong.

These are major differences we are discussing.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I think that at the time the Quran was being written they took at look at the socio-economic affairs and wrote such similar verses. The Quran was made in my opinion to rule its people at its time and have them all under control.

That is why many verses condemn friendship with Jews. Why cant a Muslim woman marry a Hindu for example?

The condition of Arabia was ripe for a Heavenly scripture to be revealed there in order to correct the condition of the people by means of a complete religion.

I just answered your post about the not befriending the Jews. You must stay fair if you wish to have any positive conclusion. You can't pick and choose from what I post. This is not the way to have a discussion.

With respect to Hinduism: The concept of God has been totally polluted to such an extent that the concept of multiple is accepted within the religion. If a Muslim was to marry a Hindu, what concept of God will they teach their children? One or multiple?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Khorasani guy mocks one sect calling them deviant.
****es think Sunnis are wrong.
Sunnis think Shias are wrong.
Sufis think Khorasani dudes sect is wrong.

These are major differences we are discussing.

Unfortunately, we have all sorts of people who are bad apples. This should not deter you from accepting God.

[Haider Bangash 2.0]

What I am trying to say is, what makes your Religion any different than the thousands of Religions that came before you?

Are you talking about non-Abrahamic religions? Our God isn't attributed the features of the created (i.e. creatures), while other religions (non-Abrahamic) attribute humanly-qualities to their god/gods, therefore confining God to a particular shape/form/place/time, which can't be true if we see it in the larger context (i.e. eternity). We don't claim that our God has a face, body, heart, etc or that He has any feelings, etc, or even that if He is a "he" for that matter. Because if you claim that your god has all those things then that implies you must have seen your god, and therefore your god can be empirically observed, and if this is true then there shouldn't be a problem for them (non-abrahamic religions' followers) to show us their god right? On the other hand, we believe that our God, the One, created this universe, and the evidence is all around you. We believe that you know of God's existence through His creation, which you see everyday lol. So what makes our religion different than theirs is that our God doesn't have the features of "the created".

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Are you talking about non-Abrahamic religions? Our God isn't attributed the features of the created (i.e. creatures), while other religions (non-Abrahamic) attribute humanly-qualities to their god/gods, therefore confining God to a particular shape/form/place/time, which can't be true if we see it in the larger context (i.e. eternity). We don't claim that our God has a face, body, heart, etc or that He has any feelings, etc, or even that if He is a "he" for that matter. Because if you claim that your god has all those things then that implies you must have seen your god, and therefore your god can be empirically observed, and if this is true then there shouldn't be a problem for them (non-abrahamic religions' followers) to show us their god right? On the other hand, we believe that our God, the One, created this universe, and the evidence is all around you. We believe that you know of God's existence through His creation, which you see everyday lol. So what makes our religion different than theirs is that our God doesn't have the features of "the created".

Sorry, to interrupt!

Please don't fall in the pit by presenting that only Abrahamic faiths are correct. Don't forget that Christians have deitified Hadhrat Isa (as).

[Haider Bangash 2.0]

Fair enough, I agree with your post but based on what should I revert back to Islam? I just want to see the light.

lol I assume you are sane, have a brain, and a free will. It is my belief that Allah has created everyone with a free will, and He has shown them what's wrong and what's right and given them the choice to chose whatever they want. So, it's up to you to decide what you wanna believe. So if you decided to believe in Zeus or Rah or even Santa Claus, then it's your choice. And only Allah will judge you, so should you revert or not, ask yourself

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

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[Haider Bangash 2.0]

Sorry, to interrupt!

Please don't fall in the pit by presenting that only Abrahamic faiths are correct. Don't forget that Christians have deitified Hadhrat Isa (as).

I knew someone would say/ask this. Let me make clear, by "Abrahimic Religions", I mean the old, true Christianity/Judaism (or you can say, the Islamic version of Christianity/Judaism), not their current, altered versions.

[AgnosticPashtana]

Unfortunately, we have all sorts of people who are bad apples. This should not deter you from accepting God.

To be precise this is my problem. Each and everyone you declare one another as kaffirs and murtads. How in the world does one know he or she is right? Is this a luck game?

[AgnosticPashtana]

lol I assume you are sane, have a brain, and a free will. It is my belief that Allah has created everyone with a free will, and He has shown them what's wrong and what's right and given them the choice to chose whatever they want. So, it's up to you to decide what you wanna believe. So if you decided to believe in Zeus or Rah or even Santa Claus, then it's your choice. And only Allah will judge you, so should you revert or not, ask yourself

This is the entire point of this discussion. Why should I revert? Based on what? Just because the Quran says Jump and the Gita says fly does not mean I have to jump or fly.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I knew someone would say/ask this. Let me make clear, by "Abrahimic Religions", I mean the old, true Christianity/Judaism (or you can say, the Islamic version of Christianity/Judaism), not their current, altered versions.

As such Hinduism was also a true religion at one point. It also had the concept of ONE God. It is in present day that it has gone corrupted. The same is true about Buddhism and Confucianism, Taoism, etc.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Agnostic,

You should never follow anything blindly. Do you research.