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  • #61
    You guys really do seem to think that "Jannah" is just another country Muslims hope to travel to after death..

    Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
    Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
    Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
    .

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
      Well can Islam disclose the figures of those who left Islam or those who dont practice it? Plus most of those who have converted to Islam from the west are of African origin.

      Kind Regards
      I beg to differ, the majority of the converts that I have actually met are women whom are either Hispanic or Caucasian. Nonetheless, can you please provide proof backing up your claim?

      Thanks.
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
        Plus most of those who have converted to Islam from the west are of African origin.
        What's your point?

        But while a large number of converts to Islam in the west ARE indeed of African origin (or African-Americans), it's not "most." The more correct way of saying what you said would have been: "More African Americans convert to Islam than any other race."

        But even IF that's the case -- even if you're right that "most converts to Islam in the west are of African origin," so what? Should we bothered? Are they not humans like everyone else? I'm really unsure about what you want to say here. Like, just because they're of African origin, we shouldn't care or think over it? . . . (I ask this specifically because in another thread, you referred to African humans as monkeys.)

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        • #64
          ^Black Africans are most beautiful people on earth....because according to me monkey is the most beautiful animal

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Qrratugai View Post
            What's your point?

            But while a large number of converts to Islam in the west ARE indeed of African origin (or African-Americans), it's not "most." The more correct way of saying what you said would have been: "More African Americans convert to Islam than any other race."

            But even IF that's the case -- even if you're right that "most converts to Islam in the west are of African origin," so what? Should we bothered? Are they not humans like everyone else? I'm really unsure about what you want to say here. Like, just because they're of African origin, we shouldn't care or think over it? . . . (I ask this specifically because in another thread, you referred to African humans as monkeys.)
            Is there a source for what he said though? on Youtube in real life everyone I have met has been white who has converted.

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            • #66
              salamalikom.
              dera dera manana chey ta da zmos sara share krala. khuday dey pa dunya o akhiarat key ewaz dey. ma wos weledey khuday di khair darkey.
              der manana. der sha post dey. dasey video koshish waka che nor peyda kay

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              • #67
                ^ Din there are many videos you can watch in the religion section (:

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Qrratugai View Post
                  What's your point?

                  But while a large number of converts to Islam in the west ARE indeed of African origin (or African-Americans), it's not "most." The more correct way of saying what you said would have been: "More African Americans convert to Islam than any other race."

                  But even IF that's the case -- even if you're right that "most converts to Islam in the west are of African origin," so what? Should we bothered? Are they not humans like everyone else? I'm really unsure about what you want to say here. Like, just because they're of African origin, we shouldn't care or think over it? . . . (I ask this specifically because in another thread, you referred to African humans as monkeys.)
                  Doesnt evolution state Africans are actually not very much developed and that they resemble monkeys than human beings?

                  I made my point that people of African origin make up the majority of Converts to Islam, I have seen it with my own eyes and most of these ranting salafis and extremist Muslims always turns out to be some person of African Origin.

                  As a Pashtun we shouldnt care about Africans or Blacks because they are of no relation to us unless some of you have some other agenda with Blacks

                  Kind Regards
                  Last edited by Guest; 08-23-2010, 08:25 AM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                    I beg to differ, the majority of the converts that I have actually met are women whom are either Hispanic or Caucasian. Nonetheless, can you please provide proof backing up your claim?

                    Thanks.

                    Yeah those Hispanics and Causacians are confused themselves of their own origins. Most Hispanics are the product of over 300 years of Spanish raping their native women. Plus Causacian converts are neither married to some Arab or Some Punjabi. I dont need to provide evidence, go outside and see for your own eyes, in the UK most converts to Islam are of jamican or african origins.


                    Kind Regards

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                      Doesnt evolution state Africans are actually not very much developed and that they resemble monkeys than human beings?

                      I made my point that people of African origin make up the majority of Converts to Islam, I have seen it with my own eyes and most of these ranting salafis and extremist Muslims always turns out to be some person of African Origin.

                      As a Pashtun we shouldnt care about Africans or Blacks because they are of no relation to us unless some of you have some other agenda with Blacks

                      Kind Regards
                      Racism - of the most hysterical kind, sadly, is alive and well.

                      As a Pashtoon, who knows what it is like to be on the receiving end of racism because of who you we are, we should all know better than to liken one racial kind to primates.

                      Human beings and primates are related whether you take a religious or a non-religious point of view.

                      Talk about shooting yourself in an attempt to make a point.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                        I beg to differ, the majority of the converts that I have actually met are women whom are either Hispanic or Caucasian. Nonetheless, can you please provide proof backing up your claim?

                        Thanks.
                        Anecdotally, this appears to be the case. When I lived in Minnesota almost all the convert Muslims I met and worked with were female "white" or "latin".

                        I even had a native American Muslim kid in my class appropriately named Lil' Brave Mohammed.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                          Racism - of the most hysterical kind, sadly, is alive and well.

                          As a Pashtoon, who knows what it is like to be on the receiving end of racism because of who you we are, we should all know better than to liken one racial kind to primates.

                          Human beings and primates are related whether you take a religious or a non-religious point of view.

                          Talk about shooting yourself in an attempt to make a point.
                          I stand very firmly that Africans Negros have similar features of Primates. I can show you pictures if you want?

                          Do you disagree about adam and eve?

                          Well this is what I mean, If we Pashtuns stuck with our own culture and people instead of trying to be others then we wouldnt be so concerned about what others think of us racially in non pashtun lands.

                          How can you deny that a Black person does not look like a Gurilla? Ive seen some Black People and I couldnt tell the difference. How is this racist?

                          Just because your Nick starts with Black doesnt mean you can make fun and push this Love a Black African agenda into our mouths.

                          Every where you go, Blacks cause trouble, this is a well known fact but to due to the Media and the so called Political correctness we are not allowed to disclose such information to the public.

                          Kind Regards
                          Last edited by Guest; 08-23-2010, 09:36 AM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                            Anecdotally, this appears to be the case. When I lived in Minnesota almost all the convert Muslims I met and worked with were female "white" or "latin".

                            I even had a native American Muslim kid in my class appropriately named Lil' Brave Mohammed.
                            I guess you are very fond of Rap Music.

                            This is your own personel experience that maybe different from others, majority of converts here in the UK are BLACKS and other Whites are just as Arabised with all their Arki arki no sense trash talk in public.

                            Kind Regards

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                              How can you deny that a Black person does not look like a Gurilla? Ive seen some Black People and I couldnt tell the difference. How is this racist?


                              You can't see the difference between a human being and a gorilla? Sad. However, it is not our fault that you are incapable of doing so and you cannot claim it is a correct thing to do just because you feel superior to them because you were born with lighter skin.

                              Just because your Nick starts with Black doesnt mean you can make fun and push this Love a Black African agenda into our mouths.
                              Just because your nickname starts with Behaved doesn't make you any more behaved than you ever were before, either. I don't know what it is that Africans ever have done to you but don't you dare even try shove your hatred towards them down our throats.
                              Every where you go, Blacks cause trouble, this is a well known fact but to due to the Media and the so called Political correctness we are not allowed to disclose such information to the public.
                              It's not information, it is discrimination, racism, racial profiling, da Gholo Khorrak to even think that way. If you are so open about your racist tendencies and judge people just based upon the color of their skin, you give everyone every right to judge you based uppon factors you have absolutely no control over.


                              Listen, Maseed. I will tell you this, and will tell you this just once: I don't care what you think or how your world works and upon which principles - or the lack thereof - it is based. But don't you even dare have the audacity to spoil my threads with these unsubstantiated BS that you call intellectuality and products of a free and modern mind. Keep your intellectual diarrhea out of my threads.
                              Last edited by Mayana; 08-24-2010, 06:09 AM.

                              Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
                              Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
                              Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
                              .

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                                I stand very firmly that Africans Negros have similar features of Primates. I can show you pictures if you want?

                                Do you disagree about adam and eve?

                                Well this is what I mean, If we Pashtuns stuck with our own culture and people instead of trying to be others then we wouldnt be so concerned about what others think of us racially in non pashtun lands.

                                How can you deny that a Black person does not look like a Gurilla? Ive seen some Black People and I couldnt tell the difference. How is this racist?

                                Just because your Nick starts with Black doesnt mean you can make fun and push this Love a Black African agenda into our mouths.

                                Every where you go, Blacks cause trouble, this is a well known fact but to due to the Media and the so called Political correctness we are not allowed to disclose such information to the public.

                                Kind Regards
                                Maseed Jan,

                                Nationalism and Racism are not the same. Being a nationalist Pashtoon = fine. Being a racist = insecure.

                                Tor Khan ... I've had that peghor from you before. Let's not go over old ground. You can do better. Besides, this time round your name is "Behaved" allegedly.

                                Challenge political correctness, that's fine, just back up what you say with some credible facts and sources, otherwise it just sounds like hysteria.

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