~ From Islam To Atheism Back To Islam Again

[BehavedMaseed]

Dust, faith is belief. It is not based on empirical evidence like in natural science.

And if you disbelieve, then it means your heart is not pure. You have bad intentions. This is why you are misguided and led astray.

But people with a soft and clean heart are guided by allah and led to Islam.

If it is too difficult for you to accept or believe in, then its fine. Go and be a disbeliever.

Disbelievers will burn in hell eternally. This is what we believe. You might not believe that, its entirely up to you.

Dont expect religion to fit into your criteria in order for you to accept it.

Again with the Emotional Relgionois bigotry blackmailing. You know Sangar, Surgeons who do Cancer Tumor removal can trigger peoples emotions and beleives by just slightly touching their nerves. Science is the way forward not medevil backwarded Arab bedion Litrature about angels in caves, shaytan urinating in peoples mouths. Telling your wife that angels will curse her if she doesnt have sex( rape). You think these ideas and backward minded thoughts are going to last in this world. No wonder your Mullahs carry guns with them because day by day people are turning away from faith and are following the progressive lot.



I can put forward 1000 non Muslims who have more good than you sangar and your so called faithful Crew.

[BehavedMaseed]

Like I said.

When a Human has a cancerous tumor in thier brain, A surgeon live on TV removed it, he showned to us all how powerful the brain is and how doublful god is, he slightly move the nerve the patient started laughing and saying broken words, If we was to do this operation on Mullah Omar, I am sure the Dr to make him say Hes a ISI agent of the new world order lol

Kind Regards

[Dust]

Dust, faith is belief. It is not based on empirical evidence like in natural science.

And if you disbelieve, then it means your heart is not pure. You have bad intentions. This is why you are misguided and led astray.

But people with a soft and clean heart are guided by allah and led to Islam.

If it is too difficult for you to accept or believe in, then its fine. Go and be a disbeliever.

Disbelievers will burn in hell eternally. This is what we believe. You might not believe that, its entirely up to you.

Dont expect religion to fit into your criteria in order for you to accept it.

So, what you are essentially saying is that one must have blind faith and to believe for it is the trend? If God existed, do you think that He is that desperate for followers? Also, if the matter is between man and God, as is preached by devotees, then why is it that in Islam you can't leave or else you would be killed?

I think there is more to this whole equation then you make seem to be. For instance, why would I burn in Hell if I can't grasp the concept of God? Moreover, how do we know what criteria to follow, there is not a clear-cut concept of God?

Going back to my initial post in this thread, if God existed, on the Day of Judgment, one could simply plead ignorance and I am pretty sure that God, who describes Himself as All Just, would have to agree.

[BehavedMaseed]

Dear Dust

Why is not permissible for Muslims to drink Wine and have sex with 72 women in this life but only acceptible for the afterlife?

Did Allah create us only to serve him so we can have a lifestyle of a hollywood actor in the afterlife?

I think life is more deeper than what Islam and other Religions have to say.

Kind Regards

[ayub]

^ how do u keep ur hair so glossy? What shampoo do u use?

[BehavedMaseed]

Because my friend in this life we live in a universe where there are laws

We live with others, having sex with 72 women can be bad for sociey. Would you allow your family member to have sex with 72 women or men?
Its just the nature of the world we live in.

Think logically bro. there is a philosophy behind every law.

Well why can we do it in the afterlife? will we not die from this world with our wife and children and live in Paradise?

Well its all about education and upbringing. If you are raised to beleive having sex with 72 virgins is good then people will do it but if your faith tells you that life is about submitting yourself to a unseeable god and dominating peoples cultures and land to serve your god so you can have number of girls to have intercourse with then doesnt this seem strange to you?



Kind Regards

[Dust]

Dear Dust

Why is not permissible for Muslims to drink Wine and have sex with 72 women in this life but only acceptible for the afterlife?

Did Allah create us only to serve him so we can have a lifestyle of a hollywood actor in the afterlife?

I think life is more deeper than what Islam and other Religions have to say.

Kind Regards

Your question can only be answered by those who adhere to such fallacious ideas. However, my concern is that why does God need an army to fight His own creation. What is the point of quantity when the quality of individuals is what determines the degree of success.

If God is the Creator of the brain, then was not He aware of the complexities of human thinking? Hence, there is more to the picture. No two human beings think alike. So, to say that you must just believe or else is absurd, simply put.

If God did exist, I don't think He would drown "believers" in the misery of their own archaic thinking in an advanced time where wonders have been invented by the human minds of those who don't adhere to Him.

[BehavedMaseed]

Dear Dust

A great example is when very elderly people minds turn childish.

Is God strong enough to keep their minds intact for his faith in him?

Kind Regard

[Iqra]

A child doesn't have faith?

[Dust]

Because my friend in this life we live in a universe where there are laws

We live with others, having sex with 72 women can be bad for society. Would you allow your family member to have sex with 72 women or men?
Its just the nature of the world we live in.

Think logically bro. there is a philosophy behind every law.

If you are going to bring logic into this, then what is logical about fornicating with 72 women in the Hereafter when decent Atheists don't fornicate with 72 in this lifetime? What you are suggesting is that everyone who is not an adherent to God fornicates with 72 women here in this mortal life and are simply immoral, yet in the Hereafter it is perfectly fine to be immoral. This leads to another question: what if the 72 virgins don't want to have sex with you? Would consent be an issue?

[Dust]

Dear Dust

A great example is when very elderly people minds turn childish.

Is God strong enough to keep their minds intact for his faith in him?

Kind Regard

That is an interesting observation. Would they be held accountable for a deteriorating mind? What if that deteriorating mind preached that God does not exist, and people simply based on appeal to authority, like so many "believers" do, accepted it for face value.

How could that person be held accountable for misleading so many people?

[Dust]

Moral laws in this life and society will not necessarily be the same in afterlife. As I said before there will be no society as such in afterlife.

About conscent, God can create beigns without freewill like angels who just obey.

The problem with what you are presenting is that you make it seem as though we have a proper understanding of everything, and as such we should know right from wrong. If that was the case then why so many religions that all preach God?

It is absurd to think that laws of nature would change after death. If the same incarnate desire would exist in the Hereafter and would be allowed to be satisfied by "lawful" means, then it just goes to show that the state of the human being would not change, only that unlawful practices would be granted as lawful. If God existed, is this how He rewards the "faithful," with sex? In other words, rape would be legalized and women would be forced to consent against their wills.

[BehavedMaseed]

Another good point would be for example

What if the Orphan child of Mohammad Iqbal and Rukhsana Javed was to be adopted by Christian parents Louise London and John Chester.

Would the child of Mr Iqbal and Mrs Javed be raised to beleive that he was born a Muslim? or would be been raised to be a christian?

You see, we are mostly brought up to beleive things, Like the tooth fairy, when we were children we were taught that if we put our teeth under the pillow, in the morning we will find money given by the tooth fairy, we all know mummy and daddy puts the money there and burys the tooth but what difference is the tooth fairy and angels that Islam speaks of?

Kind Regards

[BehavedMaseed]

Maseed in the west many have embraced Islam. Dont you remember Muslimah of PF?

Thanks Mayana.

Well can Islam disclose the figures of those who left Islam or those who dont practice it? Plus most of those who have converted to Islam from the west are of African origin.

Kind Regards

[BehavedMaseed]

Question:- About 72 virgins, would they still remain virgins after having intercourse in heaven ?

Well this is the thing these guys avoid discussing. The virigins will be unlimited and will become virgins again and again. There is no end of pleasure in Heaven, there will be rivers of Milk where Sucide bombers, Alqueda, Mullah Omars and Col Imaams will be having barrals of wine and lots of young girls to play with.

Kind Regards