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  • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
    Idiot thats because the Royals over there encourage education, the royals despite corrupt are the only ones keeping the country together, or else it will be exactly like ISIS
    Whatever the reason, it shows your analysis is wrong. Royals are Wahhabis and they empjhasize female education, so how could Islamic Shari'ah be against female education.

    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
    don’t try to be smart.

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    • Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
      Whatever the reason, it shows your analysis is wrong. Royals are Wahhabis and they empjhasize female education, so how could Islamic Shari'ah be against female education.
      More like secular Wahabhis. Do you think guys like Prince Waleed are religious? lol. The real Saudi wahabhi have kept the women really backwards, Just go north of Riyadh in the (Qasim) region the stronghold of wahabhis, and you will see how women are kept behind cages there, and no, they are not educated at all, this is exactly what Taliban do or for that matter most other extremists

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      • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
        More like secular Wahabhis.
        So you're admitting that Saudis don't follow Shari'ah.

        Do you think guys like Prince Waleed are religious? l
        Prince Waleed doesn't make policy

        they are not educated at all,
        But there are more Saudi women who have university degrees than men who have university degrees.

        Again not defending Saudi Arabia, but you were just plain wrong.
        Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 08-08-2016, 06:58 PM.

        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
        don’t try to be smart.

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        • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
          The rest of the countries also do have their doctrinaires, and yes many are violent too, but it isn't their religion saying to do that, countries like US/Israel are acting out of their personal interest and yes defiantly they are violent too, however there is difference when someone is violent for political reasons and when someone is violent because of religious reasons
          Ok your admitting it's not just an exclusive problem to countries with a majority Muslim population - violence, curruption etc .. so if it "isn't their religion saying do that" (because they don't have one) then who do you blame for the stuff you just admitted about USA/Israel?? There has to be a blame somewhere. Answer that.

          When someone is violent for political reasons then by default it would be a problem in their nationalism.. Ok so say for arguements sake your an American and America then goes and nukes a country or goes into the Middle East and murders millions under false pretexts, is it fair to then say you being an American citizen are to be held accountable for the actions of what the government chose to do?? Ovcourse not, you will point out the constitution and say you are a member for what it stands for not what the people under its banner are carrying out. That's the exact situation with Muslims and Islam. Therefore political or religious it's logically the same thing.

          You just think you are exempt from answering for people that act inhumanly even though they belong to the same system you are part of yet at the same time you deem it perfectly acceptable to expect other people (in another system) to answer for the actions of other people just because they belong to the same system/religion. It doesn't work like that.
          Last edited by Manzareh; 08-08-2016, 08:37 PM.
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          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

          Originally posted by Karachi
          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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          • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
            Mullahs discourage anytime of education for muslim women you idiot, go to Pakistan/Afghanistan, this results in direct poverty and no, you mullahs are not trying to improve at, you are taking the whole muslim world to 7th century, what did Taliban do, remember? yet people like you still support them

            Oh please, we all know about Islamic terrorism, we all know about Offensive Jihad, it is very much a Islamic problem.

            The rest of the countries also do have their doctrinaires, and yes many are violent too,but it isn't their religion saying to do that,countries like US/Israel are acting out of their personal interest and yes defiantly they are violent too, however there is difference when someone is violent for political reasons and when someone is violent because of religious reasons
            oh mister Jennifer looooool how behind the times are you?

            "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

            Mr Bush went on: "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."
            George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' | World news | The Guardian

            Or General Boykin his war council

            Discussing the battle against a Muslim warlord in Somalia, Boykin told another audience, "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol."

            We in the army of God, in the house of God, kingdom of God have been raised for such a time as this," Boykin said last year.
            General Casts War in Religious Terms - latimes

            Or I refer you to Glenn Greenwalds excellent smack down of Bill Maher citing the very basis of Israel being radical Judaism

            Lol, you need to think about staying silent more often - your ignorance on nearly every topic you attempt to discuss is so profound that I worry we may be debating someone with severe mental retardation.

            A piece of advice that might even help you with your love life and quest to win over Jennifer and will CERTAINLY help you here lol:

            Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues.
            Proverbs17:28
            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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            • Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
              oh mister Jennifer looooool how behind the times are you?



              George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' | World news | The Guardian

              Or General Boykin his war council



              General Casts War in Religious Terms - latimes

              Or I refer you to Glenn Greenwalds excellent smack down of Bill Maher citing the very basis of Israel being radical Judaism

              Lol, you need to think about staying silent more often - your ignorance on nearly every topic you attempt to discuss is so profound that I worry we may be debating someone with severe mental retardation.

              A piece of advice that might even help you with your love life and quest to win over Jennifer and will CERTAINLY help you here lol:


              Proverbs17:28

              Also

              It was an unusual preliminary to the war. No British prime minister before Tony Blair has set the scene for a military campaign with a visit to the Vatican for a blessing by the Pope. Admittedly it was not a state visit. Tony Blair’s trip to the Vatican was apparently in the capacity of the spouse of a practising Catholic. Nevertheless, it was very striking indeed that the Prime Minister, visibly exhausted by a demanding schedule, should find the time on the eve of war
              The special relationship between Blair and God | The Spectator

              And

              Tony Blair viewed his decision to go to war in Iraq and Kosovo as part of a "Christian battle", according to one of his closest political allies.

              The former Prime Minister's faith is claimed to have influenced all his key policy decisions and to have given him an unshakeable conviction that he was right.

              John Burton, Mr Blair's political agent in his Sedgefield constituency for 24 years, says that Labour's most successful ever leader – in terms of elections won – was driven by the belief that "good should triumph over evil".

              "It's very simple to explain the idea of Blair the Warrior," he says. "It was part of Tony living out his faith."
              Tony Blair believed God wanted him to go to war to fight evil, claims his mentor - Telegraph

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              *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

              Originally posted by Karachi
              like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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              • What are the OLD Ten Commandments for Muslims. The old one was for Jews and later, Christians. However, in the Holy Quor'an this is mentioned twice.
                Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                • [MENTION=2329]Karachi[/MENTION] sure fits the shoes of a fed informant.

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                  • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                    [MENTION=2329]Karachi[/MENTION] sure fits the shoes of a fed informant.
                    Yea, his style is to try and elicit emotional output. It's hard to believe someone can be this profoundly unable to clarify a single point. As I noted before even Dan Pipes and those types that openly admit hostility in a biased fashion understand the core argument being made against the view point and then attempt to debunk or address it.

                    That leaves us two possibilities - the one you note or a truly being mentally deficient.
                    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                    • I actually don't mind if Karachi disagrees with Islam or challenges Shari'ah.

                      The problem I have is he turns into a baby when someone disagrees with him and he starts hurling personal accusations against others that they're Taliban etc etc etc. If he kept things civil we could have some useful discourses.

                      I actually used to like the guy and found him to be level headed, not sure what happened between 2012-2016 that turned him into a raving imbecile

                      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                      don’t try to be smart.

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