Mullah: Pashtuns are selling women!

[DaZahroJaam.]

it's none of our business. how does saying it's none of our business externalize an issue?? we are willing to work on our differences with India and sort them out, it's for you and India to decide what you want to do with yours. besides, why should we abandon our own problems and deal with yours when we have so many of our own??
If Indians raped or murdered your children, you didn't spare theirs either. Even if we were in the position to abandon our own worries to deal with yours, you have not been so kind to us in order for us to want to take that step. You have allowed someone to use your soil and send drones over to our country by which children and women are killed every day. your leaders mock us internationally and when nothing else is happening, you demolish the houses of those refugees that settled up in your deserts and turned it into livable conditions or start sending domestic rockets across the border after every friday's prayer.

we will be friends with whoever we want to be friends with. we wont hold grudges against anyone on behalf of our bullies and most definitely not when they confuse our lack of interest in their issues with other people as "externalizing" a conflict.

[ANAcommander]

it's none of our business. how does saying it's none of our business externalize an issue?? we are willing to work on our differences with India and sort them out, it's for you and India to decide what you want to do with yours. besides, why should we abandon our own problems and deal with yours when we have so many of our own??
If Indians raped or murdered your children, you didn't spare theirs either. Even if we were in the position to abandon our own worries to deal with yours, you have not been so kind to us in order for us to want to take that step. You have allowed someone to use your soil and send drones over to our country by which children and women are killed every day. your leaders mock us internationally and when nothing else is happening, you demolish the houses of those refugees that settled up in your deserts and turned it into livable conditions or start sending domestic rockets across the border after every friday's prayer.

we will be friends with whoever we want to be friends with. we wont hold grudges against anyone on behalf of our bullies and most definitely not when they confuse our lack of interest in their issues with other people as "externalizing" a conflict.

The problems of your nation are not on Pakistan. We are not your daddy or pedar jaan or whatever you want to call it. And the cheek, the absolute cheek of you. We are demolishing Afghan houses in our deserts? We have hosted enough and for so long, but still you people are ungrateful. Maybe you Afghans should have gone to Iran where you receive a warmer welcome.

You want to be buddies with India. Fine. That is your choice. But why should you expect us to be okay with this? Make friends with whoever you want, talk down on Pakistan, but do you expect us to tow your line of thinking? You don't want to cooperate, that's fine, but why should we be expected to?

I guess there will always be hate, mistrust, and lack of communication. But we have laid down our terms very clearly.

You refuse to listen to our needs. You choose hindustan, so we are not obligated to your government. I feel we have been more than kind enough.

And please do not bring up history. Your own people invited the soviets. Your own people fought against them. We merely provided support, and homes to millions of refugees. All we asked for was to not be back-stabbed by you regarding India. Your government did not and still refuses to deliver.

[DaZahroJaam.]

Do you realize how obnoxious you sound right now?? Whiny and obnoxious.

[DaZahroJaam.]

I used to have this "friend" when I was 12. She would do and say the stupidest things and if you confronted her about it, she would create a scene and make it seem like she was more offended than you were. I hated that bitch.

[Karachi]

Women are treated horribly in that part of world, their worth is even below that of a dog, this is not a joke, this is why they are sold so easily. Some thing is seriously wrong with (manly) societies, there is a disease in these societies which needs to be destroyed, even it means nuking all the men from those areas

[DaZahroJaam.]

One of the things that most poverty stricken, illiterate and least developed nations have in common with each other is their oppression of women. That's regardless of what religion or culture is in practice in that country.

Nuking has never helped fix anything.

[ANAcommander]

Do you realize how obnoxious you sound right now?? Whiny and obnoxious.

Perhaps I sound obnoxious, but then again your opinion is only subjective. I'm laying out the facts for you.

Your people **** on us for your misfortune, but at the same time come to our country, open successful businesses, move drugs/weapons, and smuggle. We never had a problem with it, because we thought they are our Afghan brothers. It would have continued like this too, but when TTP being supported by NDS, killed and maimed our children in Peshawar, we stopped giving a ****. Collectively, we stopped giving a ****.

This is the result you see today, and unfortunately innocent Afghan refugees are being sent back to Afghanistan.

At the same time your NDS is plotting with the Indians to cause damage to our nation, which also holds more than 3 million Afghan refugees. Your elites are just as corrupt as ours, but the idea of your government trying to hurt us does not sit well. Your NDS helped TTP kill 150 children in a school. We understand common Afghan person was not involved, but your government was.

I used to know a girl that I would buy ice cream for because she had no money. When her family would come to meet mine, she would say that I never bought her the ice cream, after my grandfather gave me money for both of us. She would end up getting an extra kulfi.

[Khostai]

Perhaps I sound obnoxious, but then again your opinion is only subjective. I'm laying out the facts for you.

Your people **** on us for your misfortune, but at the same time come to our country, open successful businesses, move drugs/weapons, and smuggle. We never had a problem with it, because we thought they are our Afghan brothers. It would have continued like this too, but when TTP being supported by NDS, killed and maimed our children in Peshawar, we stopped giving a ****. Collectively, we stopped giving a ****.

This is the result you see today, and unfortunately innocent Afghan refugees are being sent back to Afghanistan.

At the same time your NDS is plotting with the Indians to cause damage to our nation, which also holds more than 3 million Afghan refugees. Your elites are just as corrupt as ours, but the idea of your government trying to hurt us does not sit well. Your NDS helped TTP kill 150 children in a school. We understand common Afghan person was not involved, but your government was.

I used to know a girl that I would buy ice cream for because she had no money. When her family would come to meet mine, she would say that I never bought her the ice cream, after my grandfather gave me money for both of us. She would end up getting an extra kulfi.

I also think you are abnoxious.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Perhaps I sound obnoxious, but then again your opinion is only subjective. I'm laying out the facts for you.

Your people **** on us for your misfortune, but at the same time come to our country, open successful businesses, move drugs/weapons, and smuggle. We never had a problem with it, because we thought they are our Afghan brothers. It would have continued like this too, but when TTP being supported by NDS, killed and maimed our children in Peshawar, we stopped giving a ****. Collectively, we stopped giving a ****.

This is the result you see today, and unfortunately innocent Afghan refugees are being sent back to Afghanistan.

At the same time your NDS is plotting with the Indians to cause damage to our nation, which also holds more than 3 million Afghan refugees. Your elites are just as corrupt as ours, but the idea of your government trying to hurt us does not sit well. Your NDS helped TTP kill 150 children in a school. We understand common Afghan person was not involved, but your government was.

I used to know a girl that I would buy ice cream for because she had no money. When her family would come to meet mine, she would say that I never bought her the ice cream, after my grandfather gave me money for both of us. She would end up getting an extra kulfi.

First of all, according to local culture/badal etc - it was an Army school with Army men's kids in it etc.

You guys were dumb enough to piss off the tribals by killing them at the behest of of outside powers. This has nothing to do with Afghans but everything to do with you being content to

A) Label your own citizens as terrorists and then
B) Kill them and their families and then
C) Make up conspiracy theories about them being Hindwaan or Jews or whatever to excuse your wanton destruction of FATA and killing those people who
D) Were doing exactly what they were doing in the 1980s but at the time you called them heroes.

Your military men murdered 69 of their children in cold blood:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/229844/t...children-died/

Veteran journalist Rahimullah Yusufzai, speaking to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism from Peshawar, recalls visiting the village just after the strike: “People were devastated. I met with a father who had lost two children. He was very patient, talking of how God must have willed this, but he was clearly traumatised.”

And that journalist is a reliable source based on Pakistan.
Culturally you Peshawaris were stupid if you thought that you were not going to experience some anger or response in return down the road while eating those oily pekoras and building up that midline belly - away from all the action but cheering those murderous thugs in the Army.

[Bengal_Tiger]

[MENTION=1772]BarakzaiAbdali[/MENTION] wrora, this ANACommander is a serial Punjabi troll from defence.pk who has been banned in this forum many times and has many nicks e.g. Pakwatan, PakZameen etc for his rude and abusive behaviour e.g. insulting people's families, swearing i.e. defence.pk type behaviour.

In other words he's not a Peshawari, but is a Punjabi. On this forum he claims to be a Punjabi from the south of Punjab (Saraiki) and on defence.pk he claimed to be from a Punjabi (Hindko) region of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

[ANAcommander]

First of all, according to local culture/badal etc - it was an Army school with Army men's kids in it etc.

You guys were dumb enough to piss off the tribals by killing them at the behest of of outside powers. This has nothing to do with Afghans but everything to do with you being content to

A) Label your own citizens as terrorists and then
B) Kill them and their families and then
C) Make up conspiracy theories about them being Hindwaan or Jews or whatever to excuse your wanton destruction of FATA and killing those people who
D) Were doing exactly what they were doing in the 1980s but at the time you called them heroes.

Your military men murdered 69 of their children in cold blood:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/229844/t...children-died/



And that journalist is a reliable source based on Pakistan.
Culturally you Peshawaris were stupid if you thought that you were not going to experience some anger or response in return down the road while eating those oily pekoras and building up that midline belly - away from all the action but cheering those murderous thugs in the Army.

First of all, I would like to let you know that I am no Peshawari, I am a Punjabi from southern Punjab Bahawalpur.

Secondly, I am not a representative of the government. The tribals.. the poor tribals. Some of them aided terrorist elements that killed our children in Peshawar. There is no justification in this. You can kill my child, and If I kill your child in revenge, it brings no closure. That is a sick mentality to have. It does not bring anyone peace.

Your third point. Hindus are currently working in Afghanistan and have set up seven consulates in Afghanistan. All of them are on the Pakistani border. You people accept them, and so we need to be careful. The TTP and outside organizations have attacked Pakistan on numerous occasions. When the attack happened on Peshawar air base, they killed the kaafirs, and what did they see?



Neither Afghans nor Pakistanis have this kind of tattoos, or tattoos in general. Your government led by khanzeer kharzai allow these things by NATO.


Your argument about drone strikes?

You think any Pakistani is for them, other than the elite government liberals?

We are all against drone strikes.

Regarding the tribals, they are not at fault, except for providing shelter for mercenaries which they are unaware of. It is their culture to provide shelter for anyone, but these mercs from NATO and communist states take advantage of their hospitality, and even threaten them.

Personally I support cleaning out the tribal areas of foreign nationals, but I do not support bombing or drone strikes.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

First of all, I would like to let you know that I am no Peshawari, I am a Punjabi from southern Punjab Bahawalpur.

Secondly, I am not a representative of the government. The tribals.. the poor tribals. Some of them aided terrorist elements that killed our children in Peshawar. There is no justification in this. You can kill my child, and If I kill your child in revenge, it brings no closure. That is a sick mentality to have. It does not bring anyone peace.

Your third point. Hindus are currently working in Afghanistan and have set up seven consulates in Afghanistan. All of them are on the Pakistani border. You people accept them, and so we need to be careful. The TTP and outside organizations have attacked Pakistan on numerous occasions. When the attack happened on Peshawar air base, they killed the kaafirs, and what did they see?



Neither Afghans nor Pakistanis have this kind of tattoos, or tattoos in general. Your government led by khanzeer kharzai allow these things by NATO.


Your argument about drone strikes?

You think any Pakistani is for them, other than the elite government liberals?

We are all against drone strikes.

Regarding the tribals, they are not at fault, except for providing shelter for mercenaries which they are unaware of. It is their culture to provide shelter for anyone, but these mercs from NATO and communist states take advantage of their hospitality, and even threaten them.

Personally I support cleaning out the tribal areas of foreign nationals, but I do not support bombing or drone strikes.

Oh really? So Nek Mohammad who just a few years before 2001 was seen as a hero by the Pak establishment was suddenly "shielding mercenaries" and expendable? Give me a break. And when Rehmetullah Wazir exposed this as a reporter your idiot military murdered him despite him being an honest and poor person.

I am not talking about what is right or wrong, I am talking about the arrogance with which you operate. You assume that its A-OK when your military kills them and disenfranchizes them as well as murders their kids and turns them into homeless and poorer people - and that they wont retaliate in kind even though culturally and otherwise regionally no one operates on that model? Thats foolish and you clearly and blatantly lying. Heck no one in this whole world would accept that sort of situation where your military gets a free hand to just do whatever they want to people without consequences.

When you unleash war on your own people, you sow what you reap. I also have no desire for Indian intervention and think its a retarded dangerous and war extending game - but Indians did not tell your military to murder those children in Bajaur.

Peshawari lives are not more important than tribal lives.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

First of all, I would like to let you know that I am no Peshawari, I am a Punjabi from southern Punjab Bahawalpur.

Secondly, I am not a representative of the government. The tribals.. the poor tribals. Some of them aided terrorist elements that killed our children in Peshawar. There is no justification in this. You can kill my child, and If I kill your child in revenge, it brings no closure. That is a sick mentality to have. It does not bring anyone peace.

Your third point. Hindus are currently working in Afghanistan and have set up seven consulates in Afghanistan. All of them are on the Pakistani border. You people accept them, and so we need to be careful. The TTP and outside organizations have attacked Pakistan on numerous occasions. When the attack happened on Peshawar air base, they killed the kaafirs, and what did they see?



Neither Afghans nor Pakistanis have this kind of tattoos, or tattoos in general. Your government led by khanzeer kharzai allow these things by NATO.


Your argument about drone strikes?

You think any Pakistani is for them, other than the elite government liberals?

We are all against drone strikes.

Regarding the tribals, they are not at fault, except for providing shelter for mercenaries which they are unaware of. It is their culture to provide shelter for anyone, but these mercs from NATO and communist states take advantage of their hospitality, and even threaten them.

Personally I support cleaning out the tribal areas of foreign nationals, but I do not support bombing or drone strikes.

Typical paki mindset. Many jihadis from secular countries like former soviet union and western countries have tattoo's because they started off as young men and women living un-islamic lives.

[ANAcommander]

Oh really? So Nek Mohammad who just a few years before 2001 was seen as a hero by the Pak establishment was suddenly "shielding mercenaries" and expendable? Give me a break. And when Rehmetullah Wazir exposed this as a reporter your idiot military murdered him despite him being an honest and poor person.

I am not talking about what is right or wrong, I am talking about the arrogance with which you operate. You assume that its A-OK when your military kills them and disenfranchizes them as well as murders their kids and turns them into homeless and poorer people - and that they wont retaliate in kind even though culturally and otherwise regionally no one operates on that model? Thats foolish and you clearly and blatantly lying. Heck no one in this whole world would accept that sort of situation where your military gets a free hand to just do whatever they want to people without consequences.

When you unleash war on your own people, you sow what you reap. I also have no desire for Indian intervention and think its a retarded dangerous and war extending game - but Indians did not tell your military to murder those children in Bajaur.

Peshawari lives are not more important than tribal lives.

Sir, from what I understand you are an MD and much more educated than me. I usually read a lot of your arguments and tend to agree with them.

But, don't you think it would be foolish to paint the Pakistani Military Establishment with a single stroke? Different generals have different agendas, and their is no overall consensus on policy. Otherwise, the Lal Masjid incident would not have had such controversy among the military circle and ranks.

In the military establishment of Pakistan, there is a deep polarization between such issues. What do you think about Hamid Gul and Colonel Imam? And what do you think about Musharaf and Kiyani?

The reason that there are such contradictions in military policies are because there are independent minded generals. Some sell out their assets, and others protect them. That issue would come down to morality, but again there no need to be surprised when looking at the political dynamic of Pakistan as well.

My point is that there are politics being played within the Army circle as well.


And I agree with you that all lives matter. Tribals, Peshawaris and all other human beings are a gift from Allah swt. If their were not kaafir generals and politicans in Pakistan, all life would be protected, but then again these people sell out everyone, so it's not like one ethnicity is targeted for being collateral. They would sacrifice anyone for their positions and family members; their circle of elites.

I am looking forward to your reply, and no I am not a liar. Perhaps ignorant, but not a liar.

[ANAcommander]

Typical paki mindset. Many jihadis from secular countries like former soviet union and western countries have tattoo's because they started off as young men and women living un-islamic lives.

That's a fine argument, but how Islamic is killing innocent people? And especially children?