Kufriyaat of Tariq Jameel

[Samandri]

I have no problem with Punjabis. Shouting and screeming like an idiot is not because he is Punjabi. It's because it's part of the culture in India and Pakistan. Some Afghans also behave like that.

I dislike it.

With regards to criticism of Tariq Jameel, if his statements consitute kufr according to Hanafi madhab, and yet people don't make takfeer on him, then I consider this partisanship and bias.

Which scholars you follow? mention the names

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Which scholars you follow? mention the names

Do you mean current scholars?

[Samandri]

there is something you need to know about these guys. You guys in Pakistan believe that Tauseefurrahman represents Wahhabism.

The truth is, he is not a follower of Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhab. In fact, he is a follower of Ahle Hadees movement of India and Pakistan.

The Pakistani Ahle Hadees is against Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhab. They consider him a deviant because he was a proponent of following madhab. But they don't say this in public because they want to be on good terms with Saudis and receive funding from them.

They go around the world refuting people who follow Madhab and claim they are following Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn al Qayyim and Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhab, but in reality they are following teachings of Subcontinent Ahle Hadees.

Both groups have very different ideologies.

O.K , I thought Ahle-i-hadith were indo-pak version of wahabis. In Punjab they use word wahabi for them

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

O.K , I thought Ahle-i-hadith were indo-pak version of wahabis. In Punjab they use word wahabi for them

Barelwis call Deobandis wahhabi. So being called wahhabi doesnt mean much.

[Samandri]

Do you mean current scholars?

Yes

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Yes

Many. From Saudi, Abdul Aziz ar-Raajihi, Ahmed ibn Umar al Haazmi, Saaleh al Fawzan etc.

[Samandri]

Many. From Saudi, Abdul Aziz ar-Raajihi, Ahmed ibn Umar al Haazmi, Saaleh al Fawzan etc.

Any from Pakistan in your good books?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Any from Pakistan in your good books?

Shaykh Abdussalam Rustami of Panjpeer was Ahle Hadees, but still very good scholar. May Allah have mercy on him.

I like mawlawi Hassan Jan very much. May Allah have mercy on him. Likewise, I like Muhammed Taahir Panjpeeri, may Allah have mercy on him.

From India, I Like Abul Hassan Nadawi, rahimullah. Although I am not deobandi, I do like the more hardcore strict Hanafis of India and South Africa. I may not share their beliefs, I do respect them as scholars.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I love Muhammed Ameen Shinqeeti. Mauritanian scholar. Probably one of the greatest of our tiem. May Allah have mercy on him. Likewise I like Mustafa al Adawi from Egypt. Hafiza'ulla

[marwat]

tariq jameel should not be judged as a scholar, rather he is a simple preacher. he has a traits of sufi fantasizing islam
[MENTION=1034]Badlun[/MENTION] [MENTION=5381]Shamlawar Khurasani[/MENTION]
your views on this

http://www.vidrail.com/video/14810/maulana-tariq-jameel-s-shocking-statement-about-bomb-blasts-in-pakistan

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

tariq jameel should not be judged as a scholar, rather he is a simple preacher. he has a traits of sufi fantasizing islam
@Badlun @Shamlawar Khurasani
your views on this
http://www.vidrail.com/video/14810/m...ts-in-pakistan

he is insane. He talks nonsense. i was feeling like going on a seeroza or any other tableeghi trip this summer but after seeing this video I changed my mind.

[Golden]

I am rounding this up with the following observation: History of Pashtuns, aka smarty has blind devotion and loyalty for a Punjabi mullah who happens to be a lover of rawaafidh. Rafdh is an attribute of Shia who curse and make takfeer on Sahaba. The Shia and Khawaarij are originally from Iraq. Imam Abu Haneefah was also from Iraq and he knew the kufr and misguidance of rawaafidh, khawaarij and Shia very well. According to his school of law, they are all kaafir because they reject Khilafah of Abu Bakr and Umar and they curse and make takfeer on Sahaba.

Smarty claims to be a hanafi, but follows Punjabi Mullah who has love for rawaafidh, the enemies of Sahaba. Yet, just like the rawaafidh, he keeps distorting stuff.


Who ever hates, curses and makes takfeer on Sahaba is a kaafir Murtad. Who ever doesn't make takfeer on such a person is also a kaafir Murtad. Therefore History of Pashtuns is also a kaafir Murtad because he loves enemies of Sahaba and has no problem with those who curse them and make takfeer on them.

Shamlawar the pious muslim have problem with Tariq Jameel for being punjabi, and he call others kafirs.

[Taghwar]

Yes, all Punjabis such as Maulana Tariq Jameel are kaffirs, the only true Muslims are the Pashtuns. Not the Arabs, not the Iranians not even those Turks but the Pashtuns. And Pashtuns have been Muslims even before Islam came (amazing isnt it). Only those Poooooooonjabis were Hindus/Buddhist even before the spread of Islam to our lands we spoke Arabic and were Muslims since we all were a lost tribe from Israel (Qais had smoked a lot of Peshawari charss therefore we got lost). Real Islam is Pashtun Islam. Mullah Omar, Baitullah Mehsud and Jalaluddin Haqqani are the real Muslims. Suicide bombing, shuttlecock burqas are the way to go!