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  • #46
    I am rounding this up with the following observation: History of Pashtuns, aka smarty has blind devotion and loyalty for a Punjabi mullah who happens to be a lover of rawaafidh. Rafdh is an attribute of Shia who curse and make takfeer on Sahaba. The Shia and Khawaarij are originally from Iraq. Imam Abu Haneefah was also from Iraq and he knew the kufr and misguidance of rawaafidh, khawaarij and Shia very well. According to his school of law, they are all kaafir because they reject Khilafah of Abu Bakr and Umar and they curse and make takfeer on Sahaba.

    Smarty claims to be a hanafi, but follows Punjabi Mullah who has love for rawaafidh, the enemies of Sahaba. Yet, just like the rawaafidh, he keeps distorting stuff.


    Who ever hates, curses and makes takfeer on Sahaba is a kaafir Murtad. Who ever doesn't make takfeer on such a person is also a kaafir Murtad. Therefore History of Pashtuns is also a kaafir Murtad because he loves enemies of Sahaba and has no problem with those who curse them and make takfeer on them.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
      That's just diversion tactics. Fact: khawaarij made takfeer on Sahaba; fact, Shia make takfeer on sahaba; fact Tariq Jameel says there is no problem with that. Conlclusion: you are supporter of khawaarij.
      Interesting discussion on your forum about hadith of Najd..... Najd the place from where your Abdul Wahab Al-Najdi sprung

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      • #48
        very interesting indeed. Especially since you have no other way to say anything of substance in defense of your rafaadhi khaariji loving tableeghi superstar.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #49
          TARIQ JAMEEL’S BAATIL ‘TABLEEGH’

          SATANISM IN THE GUISE OF TABLEEGH

          It is mentioned in the Hadith, that there are some creatures who are shayaateen (devils) in human form. They beguile the ignorant and the unwary with their glib tongue disgorging haraam and baatil coated with a deceptive ‘deeni’ veneer. One such shaitaan in human form, is the character Tariq Jameel who is causing much damage to the Tablighi Jamaat. He is an enemy from within the ranks of the Tabligh Jamaat. The sooner the Jamaat weeds him out, the better. His propagation of haraam and baatil is undermining not only the Jamaat, but Islam itself. In exposition of Tariq Jameel’s deviation, a Brother wrote:

          “The following are some of the excerpts of the speech this deviate Tariq Jameel, delivered in the Central Masjid, Birmingham on 19th November 2013, and in the Baitus Salam Masjid DHA, Karachi on 15th September 2013. In these two foul speeches Tariq Jameel speaks of meeting the Indian actor, Amir Khan, and in this context he advocates baatil in the name of Tabligh. He said:


          ‘One of our members, Jawwad Waseem sahib who used to indulge in dramas spent four months in Jamaat .When he came to meet us, there was a Moulvi saheb with us, he was saying, “Moulana (Moulana Tariq Jameel’s teacher), this is Jawwad saheb, he used to work in dramas. Now that he spent four months in Tabligh we are telling him to quit dramas. Moulana replied, “Who will raise those who are lying there, who will raise them’. In order to anger him, he said, ‘Moulana, girls dance nude there’. Moulana replied, “They are our daughters only, our daughters.”


          He said they are our daughters only. I have learned the Qur’an from this teacher. They have taught us love - to give love to people .Give love, give love. (A concept of ‘giving love’ which accommodates dalliance with nude, dancing girls is zina and prostitution – The Majlis) I met Amir Khan (the Indian actor). I didn’t tell him anything about Deen. It was just love. Still I receive his messages. (The moron is over-awed by the messages of a cinema-owner – The Majlis) He said he was never influenced by anyone. I am the one by whom he was influenced. Did I do any magic? It was just love. (It was satanistic ‘love’. – The Majlis) Give love to people. They will come close. There was no way for meeting (the Indian actor). He didn’t know me, I didn’t know him. I was not getting any opportunity to meet (him). (What is so extraordinary in meeting a cinema-owner? This character betrays his mental inferiority complex. - The Majlis) Allah sent Shahid Afridi (Pakistani cricketer) who is our cricketer. He had a friendship with the actor. I told him over phone to arrange a meeting with him. He arranged the meeting. He said that we have half an hour. I said OK. I went. He (Amir khan) was fearful that a Moulana came. He did not know what to expect. (A faasiq neither fears nor respects a bootlicking molvi who grovels at his feet. – The Majlis)


          Would he say: “What you are doing is Haraam. Dancing and singing are haraam. Therefore repent otherwise hell will be your lot. He did not know what would happen. He was afraid.


          As soon as I sat down, I started speaking about films. (If this bootlicking moilvi had to visit a prostitute, the first thing he would have done would have been indulgence in zina, for such indulgence finds room in his concept of deceptive ‘tableegh’. – The Majlis) After sometime I felt that from 1960 to 1972, he didn’t know the film industry as much as I knew. (He testifies to his own fisq and fujoor. – The Majlis) So he was awed by my knowledge. (Knowledge of fisq, fujoor and Satanism – The Majlis) It was the knowledge of his profession. He was amazed and tense. Sometimes Dilip Kumar was mentioned, sometimes Raj Kapoor, sometimes Mehboob saheb, and sometimes Madan Mohan. That half an hour passed like that. After half an hour, I said, “Our time is over, let us go, let us sit there at the dining table’. We went and sat there. Again the same conversation started. When all his fear had vanished and he was relaxed, 45 to 50 minutes had passed in that conversation. Then I said, “Amir bhai, you have come on Hajj, shall I tell you the Hajj of our Nabi if you permit?’ He replied, ’Yes, surely tell’. Then I spoke for one and a quarter hour, and he was sitting and listening. He didn’t move from his place. People are hungry for love, but you start giving Fatwas. I learned about Junaid Jamshed (ex-Pakistani singer) that Tablighi members don’t have food at his home because his earning is Haraam. He is very disheartened. He had just recently come into Tableegh. I had a journey ahead. We were going in Jamat. We had to go via Karachi, so I phoned him to inform him that I would be coming and that I would have food at his home. He said; “At my home?” I said, “Yes, at your home”. He again said, “At my home?” I said, “Yes, at your home”. He repeated: ’Really at my home?” I said, ‘Really at your home’. (Devouring haraam has completely disfigured this molvi’s spiritual countenance. His brains and heart are soiled and corrupted with all the haraam he consumes and in which he so much relishes. – The Majlis)


          I was sitting in Raiwand when a person came and said: The owner of Mubarak cinema which was in Lahore, will be coming to Raiwand for a few days. Today he (the cinema-owner) brought something from home and gave it to someone in Raiwand. But he refused to accept it, saying that he could not eat it as his (the cinema-owner’s) earning is Haraam. The cinema-owner was really embarrassed. I said: “Make haste, and bring him to me.” When he came, I asked his name. He said: “Haroon.” I asked about his occupation. Lowering his head, he said that he had a small business. I asked about the type of business he had. He said that it was a small business. I said: Brother, at least tell me what kind of business is it.” He said: “It is a cinema” I asked: “Which cinema is it?”. He replied: “Mubarak cinema, Mubarak.” I said: “Mubarak?” He said: “Yes”. I said: “The one in which I had seen (the film) Shama Parvana’? Mubarak sahib was its owner. His photo appeared . He had died. His sad music used to be played.” (This moron molvi is Shaitaan incarnate! – The Majlis)


          He (Haroon) looked at me in amazement. In this way I befriended him. When I saw him again after some time, he was spending four months (in Tableegh) and he had a big beard. People are hasty in issuing Fatwas. If someone has 100 virtues and one defect, they write off all the virtues.


          When we left after the meeting of two hours, Amir Khan came down to see us off. I asked if there shall be another meeting after today? He said sure. Thereafter I received his message that he had gone to Madinah, and he apologised. I informed him that I would come to Madinah. I had been to Madinah before Hajj, so he said come on 14th. He had fixed the time from 4-6 pm for me. So Junaid, another member (Tablighi) and I went there at 4pm. At 4:15 pm our sitting with him started. From 4:15 pm to 10:15 pm, 6 hours continuously, and he did not even frown or display any sign of being bored. (We wonder what had happened to Asr, Maghrib and Isha’ – The Majlis) Then we got up, ready to leave. But he was not happy for us to leave.


          Give love. Then I faced a test. Last year I was in the Ijtima of Raiwand. I received his message that his film ‘Talaash’ is being released. And that I should pray for its success. I thought: “What now?” Replying is also necessary and prayer also cannot be done. When I received the message, some 10-12 ulama were sitting before me. I asked: “Brothers, I have received this message. Give a response.” They said that this was not their field and that only I should reply. I had been thinking all the day. I didn’t understand what to reply to save me as well as answering. (Because you are a faasiq moron! What was the conundrum? What was the mystery which could not be unravelled? When public indulgence in fisq and fujoor – sitting in a cinema, praising fussaaq and fujjaar, praising evil films, dancing with nude dancing girls, etc., etc., are all valid in the wretch’s concept of ‘tableegh’, then why is praying for the success of the pornography not permissible? What is so difficult about this? – The Majlis) Then, the next day also passed. I didn’t understand anything (because your brains are fossilized with fisq and deception - The Majlis)). I was making wudhu of Asr when suddenly Allah put an idea in my heart. So I immediately texted him the message, “Amir bhai, Allah rarely gives a creative mind to someone. He doesn’t give it to everyone. This will be a great gift of Allah. In the time I had spent with you, I saw that Allah had given you a creative mind. You are a creator (of haraam, fisq and fujoor –The Majlis), and the people who are of this kind, don’t care about success and failure. They are only concerned with their work.” .Immediately I received his response. “You are right, you are right.”


          (The following is a different incident). I messaged him (i.e. the Indian actor Amir Khan) that I am Tariq Jameel and am in Hong Kong. Could I call him? If I don’t get his reply, I don’t call him. Sometimes he himself calls me; sometimes he sends me a message that I could call him. So after a while he phoned that he was in Delhi. He was in a conference (with the devils – The Majlis). He had come out when he saw my message. Now he would speak to me. While speaking he said his film (Talaash) succeeded as a result of my dua. I said I had not prayed.


          Brothers, distribute love. …. Pleasure is when you hold someone falling down. What is difficult in calling an evil person evil. Holding the hand of the evil person, and taking him out of the evil is the actual work.


          Madrasah is the (place for) the language of Fatwa. The language of the mimbar (pulpit) is not Fatwa. The language of pulpit is persuasion, winning the hearts. If Fatwas are issued against each other from here too, then what is now happening will happen.” (End of the moron’s disgorgement of ghutha (baatil rubbish.)



          COMMENT

          Distribution of Muhabbat (love) which is integral to the Qur’aanic methodology of Da’wat and Tableegh commanded in the aayat: “Dispute with them with wisdom”, and in the aayat: “Call to the Path of your Rabb with wisdom and beautiful calling..”, never ever envisages commission of zina with a prostitute in order to please her and to entice her into joining the ladies tabligh jamaat. It (Muhabbat) does not countenance consumption of liquor with a drunkard in order to befriend him for bringing him into the path of Islaah (reformation). It does not permit the perpetration of fisq, fujoor and haraam to hook flagrant sinners into tableegh activities or to the path of moral reformation.

          No one has ever disputed the method of calling people to the Path of the Deen with love and kindness, and with tender words. But, to deceive a transgressor and to minimize the major sins in which he/she indulges by casting oneself into the dregs of Satanism and flagrant sin, is deception piled on deception. It is pure Satanism. It testifies for the fact that this miserable Tariq character is firmly enmeshed in shaitaan’s tentacles. He propagates Satanism whilst labouring under the satanistic deception of his shaitaani method being valid Tableegh. His jahl-e-murakkab is indeed mind boggling.

          Contrary to the averment of this moron, the mimbar in fact is the valid and best platform for the dissemination of fatwas – the fatwas of the Deen – the fatwas of the Qur’aan and Sunnah. Fatwas are not meant for assignment into antiquity or for oblivion in the kutub or for wiling away the time in academic and technical hair-splitting and atom-splitting argument in Madaaris. The objective of Fatwa is amal to gain Allah’s pleasure and for Najaat (Salvation) in the Aakhirah. But for the moron with his hideous idea of ‘tableegh’ which embraces all shades of fisq, fujoor, baatil and kufr, the masaa-il of the Shariah are a past-time hobby not intended for practical implementation. His jahaalat is colossal.

          To win over a person who is plodding the path of sin and baatil, it is never permissible to consume his haraam food, as this vile Tariq moron advocates and practices. If a cinema-owner or a prostitute or a gambler, etc. is engaged in discussion with a view to invite him/her to the Path of Islaah, no one advocates being rude and harsh with them. They are not to be despised. Denying them the display of good conduct is not promoted. But, participating with them in their sins or consuming their haraam food is never ever allowed in the Shariah. The moron’s brains and heart appear to be totally corrupted as a consequence of devouring the haraam gifts offered to him.

          When refusing the haraam gift of a person, it is not said that the person should be humiliated or embarrassed. In privacy, the person should be politely and affectionately explained. Amr Bil Ma’roof Nahy Anil Munkar is Waajib, and this obligation can be discharged beautifully with muhabbat.

          Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) did not participate in the shirk and idolatry of his kinsmen in order to entice them to the Tauheed of Islam. He was commanded by Allah Ta’ala to proclaim the Haqq without the slightest ambiguity. Words may not be minced. It is haraam to speak with a forked tongue thereby casting the audience into doubt, uncertainly and even dhalaal (deviation). The Haqq is crystal clear. It may not be contaminated with the darkness of the bestial nafs and the deceptive methods of ‘tableegh’ which Shaitaan inspires into the clogged brains of the likes of the Tariq Jameel character.

          The Ummah is not in need of deviate morons such as Tariq Jameel to teach Muslims his rubbish methods of satanic propagation. There is a wealth of guidance and a plethora of examples in the glittering Ways of our Akaabir Auliya and Ulama who had practically demonstrated the Qur’aanic methodology of calling to Islaah with Beautiful Aquittal. Once Hadhrat Ibraahim Bin Adham (rahmatullah alayh) passed by a man who laid sprawling on the ground. Foam was gushing from his mouth. He bent down to inspect. The man was ‘dead’ drunk. Overcome with grief, Hadhrat Ibn Adham with his handkerchief wiped the foam from the mouth of the drunkard. Whilst wiping, he sadly said: “Allah Ta’ala has bestowed the bounty of the tongue for His Thikr.” After wiping the foam from the man’s mouth, Hadhrat Ibn Adham departed. That night, in a dream he sees a Vision of Allah Ta’ala exclaiming: “O Ibraahim! For My Sake, you cleaned his mouth. Now, for your sake, I have cleansed his heart.” When the drunkard had sobered up, people who had witnessed the episode, informed him. Hadhrat Ibraahim’s statement struck a responsive chord in his heart. He hastened to the Shaikh, made taubah, took bay’t and joined the Jamaat of the Sufiya.

          To achieve this objective of Islaah, Hadhrat Ibraahim (rahmatullah alayh) did not consume liquor. He did not have to beat about the bush and convey the idea that liquor is halaal as Tariq Jameel had created the satanic idea of haraam food and haraam earnings being halaal, and of music and cinema being halaal. Regardless of the moron’s intention, his ostensible acquittal is kufr for he, by his practical action, traded the idea that music, haraam food and the fisq and fujoor of the cinema-owner are all halaal. He should renew his Imaan and also his Nikah.

          Beautiful Preaching never means forked-tongued ‘tableegh’ which leaves a man to flounder in the zulmat (darkness) of jahaalat. “Giving love” of which he pretends to be having a monopoly, must never compromise the clear and glittering Haqq of Allah’s Shariah. Consorting with baatil is not Mauizah Hasanah (Beautiful Preaching). On the contrary, it is Satanism. It is talbees-e-iblees.

          Conveying the vile notion of nude dancing girls being acceptable in Islam, speaks volumes for this man’s deviation from Siraatul Mustaqeem. He lacks the ability of distinguishing between left and right, hence he is capable of uttering such blasphemous rubbish. Falling head over heels to curry favour with a wealthy cinema-owner bears testimony to this man’s greed for the dunya. He further suffers from gross mental inferiority. Did he ever search for a faqeer in some squatter camp or someone sleeping in the streets for his tableegh? But he went out of his way to gain the favour of a faasiq of wealth. His efforts in this direction are tantamount to bootlegging and bootlicking. Under guise of tableegh he pursues the dunya. Thus, coming within the purview of the Hadith: “With the amal of the Aakhirah, they will pursue the dunya.” This is among the Signs of Qiyaamah. He bootlicks the wealthy fussaaq while ignoring the poor fussaaq. He accords obsequious attention to the wealthy fussaaq. But for the poor who are surrounding him, he has a different approach and treatment. A scholar at the door of the wealthy is indeed a vile character.

          This vile character proudly displays his knowledge about haraam films. He excelled even the cinema-owner in this haraam science of fisq and fujoor. And, he is proud of it. His concept of love and tableegh requires the lauding of praise on fussaaq and fujjaar actors, prostitutes and scoundrels in direct conflict with the Ahaadith. Invite the sinners to the Path of Islaah without making a hash of the Deen. The ‘give love’ concept of Tariq Jameel is a lot of hogwash.

          “Moving for four months in jamaat”, is not a halaalizer of haraam food. For the sake of enticing a man into four months, haraam food does not become halaal. It is the abundant consumption of haraam food which has corroded the thinking process of this moron ‘tablighi’.

          When an ignoramus requests that dua should be made for the success of his zina, fisq and fujoor, there is no need to wait for kashf (divine inspiration) for understanding what the response should be. But, this moron was in a quandary for a couple of days when he was requested by the cinema-owner to make dua for the success of his zina film. He had to hallucinate some weird response which he attributes to divine inspiration for placating the cinema-owner. His fossilized brain failed to understand the simple logical command of Amr Bil Ma’roof to be beautifully acquitted. A response which further solidifies the haraam indulgence of the cinema-owner is a satanic response.

          This utterly shameless, impostor molvi proudly advertises that he had “watched the sharma parvana film” He furthermore praises the haraam photo and the haraam music which the moron describes as ‘sad music’. What kind of devilish ‘tablighi’ is this mudhil (one who deviates others from Siraatul Mustaqeem). Regarding such vile specimens of deceit and misguidance, Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “Verily, I fear for my Ummah the aimmah mudhilleen.” So-called scholars who mislead people are among these ‘aimmah’ for whom Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) expressed fear.

          Uttering a blatant lie, Tariq Jameel said: “If someone has a 100 virtues and one defect, they write off all.” From whence did he suck out this blatant falsehood. He should cite specific examples to bolster his baseless contention. If one abstains from eating the haraam food of a cinema-owner, it does not follow therefrom that he has been written off and consigned to Jahannum. If people do not associate with a prostitute, it does not follow that she has been condemned to Jahannam. Dissociation from flagrant sinners is a Shar’i command. Such dissociation is not necessarily the effect of pride. The flagrant sinner is not being despised when he/she is ostracized. We say ‘flagrant’ because everyone is a sinner. But there is a vast difference between those whose sins are hidden, and those who display blatant disregard for Allah’s commands. They recklessly sin and rebel against Allah Ta’ala in public. They advertise their villainy. They are proud to display and promote their fisq and fujoor.

          If a faasiq comes forward and expresses the desire to enter into the Path of Taubah and Islaah, no one will despise him/her. On the contrary, he/she will be welcomed. Yes, a moron mudhil has to be written off for safeguarding the Imaan and Akhlaaq of Muslims.

          No one objects to ‘holding the hand of the evil person and taking him out of his evil’. The episode of Hadhrat Ibraahim (rahmatullah alayh) mentioned earlier, adequately portrays the Tareeqah of our Tableegh. The objection is directed at the one like this moron who indulges in the evil of the one who is trapped in evil. He indulges in the evil with the ludicrous and haraam justification of ‘tableegh’. He participates in the fisq and fujoor of the person whom he supposedly invites towards virtue. It is his participation which is abhorrent, haraam and objectionable, not his ‘holding the hand of the evil person’.

          Muslims should beware of this fake ‘muballigh’. He is a threat for Imaan. He is a halaalizer of haraam. With his forked tongue he seeks to deviate people to take the path of Jahannam. It is not permissible to listen to his lectures. His speeches are ‘zukhruful qaul’ (satanically adorned speech) according to the Qur’aan Majeed.

          Q. I think you heard about Maulana Tariq Jameel of the Tabligh Jamaat. He went to a Shiah Masjid and prayed there, ate food with them and took pictures with them. Then he invited them to the Tabligh Ijtima and some came. He says that they are not kaafir. He also says some negative things about the Sahaabah who were not of the Ahl-e-Bait. My Shaikhul Hadith (in Pakistan) is ready to issue the fatwa of kufr on Maulana

          Tariq Jameel. Please comment.

          A. We do not know who this chap Tariq Jameel is. However, we have been hearing lately of his vile and haraam antics. If what you have attributed to this character is correct, then undoubtedly, he is a bedfellow of the kuffaar Shiahs. When your Shaikhul Hadith issues the necessary Fatwa, do forward a copy to us.

          4 Rabiuth Thaani 1435 (5 February 2014)

          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #50
            BEGUILING THE UMMAH WITH HIS TREACHERY



            Adept with his tongue in the art of treachery and deception, Tariq Jameel had succeeded to con even Mufti Zarwali of Madrasah Ahsanul Uloom in Katachi. On 27 February 2012, after Tariq Jameel had delivered a speech at the Madrasah, Mufti Zarwali Sahib had only praises for him. However, later when the truth of Tariq Jameel’ deception dawned on the venerable Mufi Sahib, he criticized this dangerous character in unmistaken terms.

            A Brother, informs us of the following comments of Mufti Zarwali regarding the danger posed by Tariq Jameel:

            EXCERPTS OF MUFTI ZARWALI’S

            (1) “When a man like Tariq Jameel is getting photographed regularly on the occasion of Hajj, he appears with the ever-smiling, ever-blooming Indian actor, Shahid Afridi. His pictures have adorned the internet. Anyway, the person you named is not reliable. He is committing mistakes on different occasions. Secondly, wrong is wrong, whether Tariq Jameel commits it or someone else. A mistake is not forgiven for anybody. An individual may be wrong while the Shariah is unalterable.>Date:2 November 2012.Time:50:30 - 51:21 minutes

            (2) Haji Abdul Wahhab is a tablighee man. Let him first control Tariq Jameel who is presenting a new Islam. It is not enough that he is not allowing him to speak at the Ijtema. Tariq Jameel’s speech and his bayans are filled with poison. What are the Aqaaid and views he is spreading now? Bhai Abdul Wahhab should first act to remove this fistula (a kind of an ulcer) from tableegh. And may Allah free the society from the attacks being carried out by our people on Aqaaid and A’maal.>Date:5 July 2013.Time:59:19 - 59:52 minutes

            (3) Is this incident correct that an old woman used to throw dirt on Rasoolullah.When she stopped throwing dirt, he visited her, then she became a Muslim? If this incident is correct,narrate again. No, I don’t know the incident.about which Tariq Jameel is talking such rubbish. He is engaged in it nowadays. I don’t know from where he narrates that Rasoolullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) went to his mother’s grave and sat like this and cried like this. All these are baseless and silly views. These are neither in Ahadith nor in authentic books.He narrates from nonsense.>Date:12 July 2013.Time:53:36 - 54:18 minutes

            (4) Some people think that Qitaal is not needed in present age. Since the purpose of Qitaal is raising the Word of Allah it is achieved through Da’wah and Tableegh. Simply follow tableeghi people. I didn’t believe that anyone would speak like this. A few days ago I listened to a speech of Tariq Jameel. It saddened me considerably. He has studied in madrasah. He is an alim, yet he is prepared for such lying. He was saying the same thing that Qitaal causes murder, mischief, and Tableegh is good, etc. This is an inappropriate view.Tableegh has its own need, and Qitaal has its own need. This is as if someone says one should offer Salaat and not fast or says just offer Nafls abundantly, don’t go for Hajj. May Allah give him hidayah. Muhammad Ahmad Bahawalpuri used to say these things. The Ulama-e-Deen were very angry with him. Now he also started these things under his training. Very clearly it seems these people will even call Badr, Uhud, Khandaq, after few years, that, Ma’adhallah,Astaghfirullah, these were errors. A’oodhubillahi minash Shaitaanir rajeem. Anyways, I regret very much that besides others, now I have to start refutong even our people. I’m very sad about it but I don’t practise mudahanat (flattery). When I hear his wrong views, I refute him. He said in the same speech that the greatest alim of the universe after the Ambiyaa is Hadrat Ali (radhiyallahu anhu).This is pure Rifdh, pure Shiahism, nothing else. Such a sentence will not be found in the whole world.>Date:30 August 2013.Time:48:33 - 50:18 minutes

            (5) Badr and Khandaq cannot become proof for Qitaal for nowadays. Our example is not found even in Seeratun Nabi rather our example is of Bani Israil .Fir’aun slaughtered children in front of a great Nabi like Musa,, but he (Nabi Musaa) did not resport to Qitaal. Are these views correct according to Shariah? Such views are dangerous. Nowadays Tariq Jameel expresses such views.These are very inappropriate views. I’m afraid of his Imaan being stripped.>Date:20 December 2013.Time:52:58 - 53:28 minutes

            (6) Tariq Jameel has said that one doesn’t become kaafir by declaring Sahabah kaafir. Is this correct? The views of Tariq Jameel are baseless and regrettable.>Date:28 February 2014.Time:59:03 - 59:13 minutes.” (End of Mufto Zarwali’s comments)


            BEWARE OF THE DECEPTION AND BAATIL WHICH TARIQ JAMEEL PROPAGATES. IT IS NOT PERMISSIBLE TO LISTEN TO HIS TALKS.

            13 Sha’baan 1435 - 12 June 2014

            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #51
              TARIQ JAMEEL, MAUDUDI AND THE ERROR OF THE TABLIGHI JAMAAT

              (MUFTI AFZAL ELIAS)


              Question #12214 – 24/11/2014

              Can you tell me about Maududi?

              Answer


              THE ERROR OF MAUDUDI SAHIB:


              It is a basic and simple fundamental fact that every action of a Muslim is only solely for the Pleasure of Allaah. Thus a Muslim's Salaat, Fasting, Zakaat, and Hajj are only for His Pleasure. In fact any action, no matter how big or small the action is, it is for the Pleasure of Allaah. Thus Tilawaat of Quraan, Zikr, Nafl acts, aiding the poor and even smiling are solely for the Pleasure of Allaah.

              Maududi Sahib, the founder and head of Jamaat Islaami, Pakistan, fabricated an absolutely new concept, idea, and philosophy. He, in his urge for developing ‘iqaamat ut Deen’-(Establishing the Deen) -- establishing by any means an Islaamic government began to interpret the basic tenets of Islaam from this very lop-sided angle. Like a jaundiced person, he began to give everything a political overtone. Thus he states that:-

              1) Salaat is a training exercise for Jihaad


              2) Zakaat is a military fund for Jihaad

              3) Fasting is to train like soldiers who have to stay without food at times for long periods

              4) Hajj is a huge conference in nature for plotting larger scale military operations.

              Thus, Salaah, Fasting, Zakaat, and Hajj are in reality meant for this very preparation and training – Fundamental of Islaam – Pg250) It is this basic change and alteration which are causing a loss in the basic trust and focus of Deen. This leads to total corruption and deflection from the Straight Path.

              Maududui Sahib, in the attempt to take over the government supported Faatimah Jinnah, but lost. Although, he wrote intensively against a female becoming a head of state. We say that if there is an opportunity to establish the Deen via formation of the government then the Muslims should do so. However, by moving the objective from the ‘Pleasure of Allah’, to ‘Iqaamatul Deen’ it leads to corruption of Deen and alteration to the basic fundamentals of Deen.

              The above is a summary of Allamah Mufti Saeed Ahmed Palanpuri’s exposition. He is currently the Sheikhul Hadith of Darul Uloom Deoband). We say: Moulana Tariq Jameel, the current star orator of the Tablighi Jamaat, states that:

              1) Moulana Ashraf Ali Thaanvi (A.R.) complicated ‘deen’ while Moulana Maududi simplified Deen

              2) Maulana Maududi did not start a new party

              3) Moulana Maududi did not have a new ideology

              4) Moulana Maududi did not invent new laws.

              The fallacy of these statements is self-evident. But the Tabligh Jamaat still promotes him, and has now given him the platform once again to address the huge gathering in Raiwind (2014). This is strange and astonishing. The elders of the Tabligh Jamaat seem to be losing their hold on matters of promoting the truth. But sadly, it is considered taboo to correct the activities of local Tabligh members let alone that of the elders. How sad! And Allah Knows Best.

              (End of Question & Answer)


              Tariq Jameel whom the Tablighi Jamaat is honouring and promoting in conflict of Rasulullah's warning: "He who honours a man of bid'ah aids in the demolition of Islam.", and, "When a faasiq is praised (and honoured), the Arsh (of Allah) shudders,", has drifted exceedingly far from Siraatul Mustaqeem. His dalliance with Shiahs, his praise and defence of the deviate Maududi, his criticism of the Akaabir Ulama-e-Haq, and his public indulgence in stunts abhorrent to Islam, have rendered him a faasiq. The Tabligh Jamaat elders are in grievous error for giving him the platform to address Muslims.

              Ways and means which are in conflict with the Shariah are accursed. There is no benefit in employing flagrant violaters of the Shariah to assist in the sphere of tableegh. Tableegh is not in need of a character such as Tartiq Jameel who has betrayed Islam. The focus of the Tabligh Jamaat elders has been deflected from Allah Ta'ala, hence they are increasingly becoming mired in nafsaani politics, an example of which is the employment of Tariq Jameel. This deflection from the Haqq bodes ill for the Tabligh Jamaat.

              Anyhow, as much as we are averse to it, history testifies that all movements of Haqq also degeneracy and ultimately become calcified in baatil, and are then transformed in to sects of deviation. It has happened to the Madaaris, the Khaanqahs, the Sufi Silsilahs, and now the Tabligh Jamaat is following suit. May Allah Ta'ala save us from the evil of our nafs and the snares of shaitaan.

              4 Safar 1436 – 27 November

              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #52
                TARIQ JAMEEL – THE TABLIGH JAMAAT’S FAASIQ-FAAJIR DEVIATE ‘MUBALLIGH’

                A brother from Pakistan writes:

                “I would like to draw your attention to the Fisq committed by Moulana Tariq Jameel yesterday in the Iftar party yesterday,the 6th July 2015 given to him by Imran Khan,the chairman of Pakistan Tahreek e Insaf(PTI) at his residence in Bani Gala in Islamabad.Moulana sat on the dining table with uncovered(bey purdah) wife of Imran Khan and spoke to her looking at her face.I have attached the photos of the party below.This https://stayconnecting.com/moulana-t...-in-bani-gala/ is the link of news.The regretful thing is that still his followers say that there is nothing wrong in that,he went there for Tabligh.They call him 'Muballigh e Islam' despite all this.They give excuse that Moulana went there for Tabligh.They are Halalizing many Haraam things by the excuse of Tabligh.The surprising thing is that he advises others in his speeches to lower gaze but he himself without shame is speaking to her looking at her face.Forgive me for being harsh.Please remember me in duas.”

                (End of letter. Letter reproduced verbatim).


                This Tariq Jameel character employed by the Tabligh Jamaat as an advertising agent is a prime example of the type of ulama mentioned in the following Hadith of Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam):

                “There will dawn an age over the people when nothing will remain of Islam but its name; nothing will remain of the Qur’aan but its text; their Musaajid will be adorned structures bereft of hidaayat (Allah’s Guidance). And, the worst of the people under the canopy of the sky will be their ulama. From them (these vile ulama) will emerge fitnah, and the fitnah will rebound on them.”



                This miscreant molvi whom the Tabligh Jamaat has most regrattably and totally oblivious of the Shariah, engaged as a flagship for a misconceived programme of promotion of Tabligh Jamaat activities, is among the lesser signs of Qiyaamah predicted by Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam). He flagrantly promotes fisq and fujoor under guise of ‘tabligh’. The Tabligh Jamaat elders have selected to remain blind to Tariq Jameel’s flagrant acts of fisq ands fujoor. Their policy of accursed ‘hikmat’ does not bode well for the future of the Jamaat. By degrees the Tabligh Jamaat will veer into baatil without its elders realizing the gradual sinking of its ship.

                It is therefore imperative that the elders of the Tabligh Jamaat sit up, open their eyes and their intelligence to understand the danger to itself and to the Deen which this misguided faasiq/faajir is causing.

                The brother’s leter is self-explanatory. There is no need for us to comment in detail on the flagrant, public acts of zina which Tariq Jameel and all the participants in the accursed dinner are guilty of. Any one who denies the zina of the eyes and zina of the heart committed by these fussaaq and fujjaar will be in negation of Rasulullah’s categorical declaration in this regard. When Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) himself observed strict purdah, who is this miserable character, Tariq Jameel, to refute this by means of his action? A molvi – a so-called Aalim – who flagrantly violates - violates in public – the ahkaam of the Shariah, and believes it to be halaal, is undoubtedly guilty of kufr. He requires to renew his Kalimah as well as his Nikah.

                It is necessary for the elders of the Tabligh Jamaat to understand that this Deen is not in need of flagrant violaters who halaalize what Allah Ta’ala has made haraam, for its propagation. The Tabligh Jamaat will be on a better footing and will be more in conformity with the Shariah if it expels this miscreant from its list of speakers and advertisers. It will be indeed a sad day when the Tabligh Jamaat will have to be labelled a sect of baatil. It is necessary for its elders do do some sincere soul searchings and to clean up its house from the bid’ah accretions which have crept into its ranks. All institutions of Haqq become polluted with bid’ah with the passage of time. If steps are not taken to address the situation, the institution then becomes a sect of baatil.

                “Upon us is only to deliver the Clear Message (of Haqq).” (Qur’aan)

                21 Ramadhaan 1436 (8 July 2015)

                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #53
                  MOLVI SAJID KHAN’S SPURIOUS AND BASELESS DEFENCE OF THE FISQ OF TARIQ JAMEEL

                  A BROTHER FROM PAKISTAN, COMMENTING ON THE BASELESS DEFENCE OF TARIQ JAMEEL PUT UP BY ONE TABLIGHI MOLVI SAJID KHAN, STATES:

                  Assalamu alaikum

                  May Allah Ta'ala immensely reward you for refuting this deviated man (i.e. Tariq Jameel. I would like to bring also to your attention that a Tablighi Moulvi Sajid Khan Naqshbandi, in order to silence the Barelvi opponents of Moulana Tariq Jameel's attendance in the Iftar party at Imran Khan's house has used the Ayat:" ادعوا الی سبیل ربک بالحکمۃ والموعظۃالحسنۃ" and explained that "دعوتِ الی اللہ کی بنیاد ہی حکمت اور گفتارو کردار کی نرمی و شیرینی پر ہے"(Calling unto Allah itself is based on wisdom and softness and sweetness of speech and action).

                  He has also used the Hadith of Muslim vol.1,pg.289, Nasai vol.1,pg.333, that Rasoolullah (SAW) delivered a sermon to the men, then with the support of Hazrat Bilal (RA) he came to women and delivered A sermon to them, and advised them to give charity because he saw most of them to be the fuel of Jahannam. A woman from amongst them asked the reason. The narrator Hazrat Jabir (RA) saw the redness of her cheeks by the word "شفعاءالخدین" in this Hadith. From this Hadith the Tablighi Moulvi implied that in the presence of Rasoolullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam), Hazrat Jabir (RA) saw her face to the extent that he even reported the colour.

                  Then the Moulvi sarcastically says thanks, Rasoolullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) and Hazrat Jabir (RA) were not in this era for he does not know what kind of Fatwas the Facebook Muftis would have issued against them. (Tariq Jameel is a deviate Facebook character – The Majlis)

                  He also uses the Hadith:

                  ظنوا المؤمنین خیرا" to have good opinion of Moulana Tariq Jameel by making a good taweel (interpretation) of his actions. (The act of public zina of a man may not be interpreted to exonerate him, for in so doing the masses are further led astray. This deviate while posing as a guide, is in fact a mudhil – one who misleads. –The Majlis) He went on to say that he does not find anything bad if Moulana adopted the behavior as a strategy by coming out of the shell of Moulviat (ایسے ماحول میں اگر مولانا نےمولویت کے خول سے نکل کر ایک حکمتِ عملی کے تحت یہ رویہ رکھا تو مجھے اسمیں کوئی قباحت نظر نہیں آتی). He gives the reason that he was meeting apolitical personality and political and worldly people have lot of complaint with Moulvis. (Likewise we have numerous complaints against these fussaaq, fujjaar, in fact zanadiqah political ‘personalities’. They are the **** of humankind, and the ulama-e-soo’ are even worse. – The Majlis) Hence he should make use of such an opportunity.



                  He also writes that "پس یہ ہوسکتا ہے کہ اپنی ناقص عقل کیوجہ سے ہمیں کوئی کام بظاہر مناسب نہ معلوم ہوتا ہو مگر مستقبل اور مآلکے اعتبار سے وہ اپنے اندر ایک عظیم انقلاب رکھتا ہو. ایسے موقع پر اگربعض اوقات نرمی کرلی جائے اور شریعت کے مزاج سے بظاہر تھوڑا ہٹ کر کچھ کرلیا جائے تو آخر اس میں کیا برائی ہے؟" Then he quotes the Fiqhi usool"الضروریات تبیح المحظورات" and says "کا قاعدہ اسی دن اور اسی گھڑی کےلئے مقرر کیا گیا ہے".Then he quoted an incident of Hazrat Syed Ahmad Shaheed (rah) from Hazrat Thanvi (rah) from Arwaah eThalathah(ارواحِ ثلاثہ page 119) that he went to market and saw a prostitute and glanced at her, then later she did taubah etc. (We take our directives from the Shariah and the Sunnah. We are not Hadhrat-Worshippers. We do not deify our seniors. Our example for adoption is Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) and the Sahaabah, not the Hadhrat who looked at the face of the prostitute. Such shaaz and naadir issues should not cast the Aalim of Haqq into a conundrum. Even if we see a Hadhrat flying to the Arsh, we shall not be awed with his acts if in conflict with the Shariah. About the type of deviate molvis such as Tariq Jameel and this Sajid Khan, Allaamah Sha’taani –rahmatullah alayh – said: ‘He who cites (as daleel) the nawaadir of the Ulama, has made his exit from Islam.’ – The Majlis)

                  The Moulvi has even quoted some statements of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi to refute Barelvis. Thishttps://m.facebook.com/AllamaSajidKhanNaqshbandi/photos/a.829984100410114.1073741828.829255457149645/856124321129425/?type=1&source=46&refid=17 is the link of the article of that Tablighi Moulvi. I would just say that the Moulvi is an example of compound ignorance. (Most certainly he is a glaring specimen of Jahl-e-Murakkab. – The Majlis)

                  His istidlaal (deduction) on the basis of the Ayats and Ahaadith is baatil (and downright stupid – The Majlis). The actions of saints are not Shar'i proof. He should remember that Hazrat Allamah Yusuf Binnori (rah) and Hazrat Moulana Sarfaraz Khan Safdar (rah) did notallow usage of Television for Tabligh all their life. Was Salaam

                  (End of the Brother’s letter)

                  OUR COMMENT

                  The Brother’s comment is adequate to debunk the utterly baseless and downright stupid arguments of Molvi Sajid Khan. A whole booklet could be written to show and refute the stupid interpretations which this wayward Molvi has made in his defence of fisq and fujoor. Miscreant ulama of this type are all signs of Qiyaamah. They are the materialization of Rasulullah’s predictions in condemnation of the ulama-e-soo’ of the eras in close proximity to Qiyaamah.

                  Instead of upholding the Haqq by way of unadulterated Amr Bil Ma’roof Nahy Anil Munkar, this Molvi spins a case for defending fisq and fujoor. In his thoughtless defence of a flagrant faasiq, the Molvi overlooks all the explicit Nusoos commanding the proclamation of the Haqq. If the stupid ta’weelaat (interpretations) of the Hadith presented by the Molvi had any validity, the door for proclaiming the BITTER TRUTH and for Amr Bil Ma’roof would be permanently closed.

                  Dubious diplomacy and stupid ‘hikmat’ are known as Talbeesul Iblees. This is the trademark of the ulama-e-soo’ who abound in this era. The likes of Tariq Jameel and Sajid Khan are busy with the nefarious job of digging up the foundations of Islam with their dalliance with baatil, fisq, fujoor and bid’ah.

                  22 Ramadhaan 1436 (9 July 2015)

                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #54
                    THE MISCREANT MOLVI’S FUTILE AND SHAMELESS ATTEMPT TO DEFEND TARIQ JAMEEL



                    In an utterly shameless and futile attempt to defend Tariq Jameel’s public act of Fisq and Fujoor, the miscreant Molvi Sajid Khan descended to the very bottom of the barrel of falsehood with his LIE that the pictures about Tariq Jameel are ‘fake’.

                    The Brother from Pakistan commenting on the shenanigans of Molvi Sajid Khan, writes:

                    Once again I thank you for refuting Moulvi Sajid Khan. I am looking forward to your detailed refutation of ladies' Tablighi Jamat. I would like to bring to your attention the shamelessness of this Moulvi. Today the Moulvi has written that the photo is fake, it has been edited. This https://m.facebook.com/AllamaSajidKh...0%2C2145494591 is the link of his post. But his desperate, crazy attempt to save Moulana Tariq Jameel is all debunked by the same picture Imran Khan has posted on his official facebook account herehttps://m.facebook.com/ImranKhan.Official/photos/pcb.1112054085503677/1112053825503703/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3308668103 with the title "Maulana Tariq Jameel and family visited Bani gala for an iftaar today". They have been posted on July 6 at 09:28.You can see other pictures of Moulana Tariq Jameel at Bani Gala on the same account by seeing the 6th July pictures. Moulvi Sajid Khan said that some shameless people without evidence said that one of the two women on the dining table is Moulana Tariq Jameel's wife. We never said such a thing, so it does not harm our refutation. All I would say about Moulvi Sajid Khan's futile attempts is he is bereft of any shame, so he has stooped so low to save Moulana TariqJameel. Rasoolullah (SAW) 's statement:"اذا فاتک الحیاء فافعل ماشئت".applies rightly to these kind of Moulvis.

                    The fact that Imran Khan himself had publicized the haraam gathering with the pictures, is sufficient stinking egg on the face of Molvi Sajid Khan.

                    24 Ramadhaan 1436 (11 July 2015)

                    Originally posted by Firdousi
                    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                    • #55
                      Why not share the video of your wahabi Shaikh Tauseef ur rehman against Tariq Jamil?. watch this,

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                        Why not share the video of your wahabi Shaikh Tauseef ur rehman against Tariq Jamil?. watch this,

                        http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b...-ur-rehman_fun
                        I dont like tauseefurahman any more. He is an extremist and he is on Saudi government's payroll. I have no respect for people who speak on behalf of governments. I hate the shouting drama of paki mullahs. Tauseefurrahman is like a typical paki always shouting and acting like he is somehow in a theater.

                        Besides, what's the point of posting video's articles and refutations by people who are totally against the entire ideology of Tariq Jameel? It is better to see what his fellow Deobandi Hanafis say about him. Because that will help people understand that those who oppose him and his ideology are not necessary against Deoband, Hanafi Madhab or Jamaat Tableegh. But rather, people oppose him specifically because of the things he said and the things he did.
                        Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 10-28-2015, 02:16 PM.
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                          I dont like tauseefurahman any more. He is an extremist and he is on Saudi government's payroll. I have no respect for people who speak on behalf of governments. I hate the shouting drama of paki mullahs. Tauseefurrahman is like a typical paki always shouting and acting like he is somehow in a theater.

                          Besides, what's the point of posting video's articles and refutations by people who are totally against the entire ideology of Tariq Jameel? It is better to see what his fellow Deobandi Hanafis say about him. Because that will help people understand that those who oppose him and his ideology are not necessary against Deoband, Hanafi Madhab or Jamaat Tableegh. But rather, people oppose him specifically because of the things he said and the things he did.
                          So you are a racist wahabi, dont like Punjabi/Paki ones?. Of course there was a purpose behind sharing this video. I agree with criticism on Tariq Jamil by qualified ahle-hadith scholar like Tauseef ur Rehman and Deobandi scholar Zarwali Khan in this video. I told you that i would only accept criticism on Tarqi Jamil from ulemas not by lalu kaita like you.
                          Last edited by Samandri; 10-28-2015, 02:50 PM.

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                          • #58
                            Here is Tauseef-ur-rehman's video on your topic

                            Maulana Tareeq Jameel Aur Takfeer Sahaba e Karam (RA) By Sheikh Tauseef Ur Rehman

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                              So you are a racist wahabi, dont like Punjabi ones?. Of course there was a purpose behind sharing this video. I agree with criticism on Tariq Jamil by qualified ahle-hadith scholar like Tauseef ur Rehman and Deobandi scholar Zarwali Khan in this video, but note that none is declaring him a Kafir in the video. I told you that i would only accept criticism on Tarqi Jamil from ulemas not by lalu kaita like you.
                              I have no problem with Punjabis. Shouting and screeming like an idiot is not because he is Punjabi. It's because it's part of the culture in India and Pakistan. Some Afghans also behave like that.

                              I dislike it.

                              With regards to criticism of Tariq Jameel, if his statements consitute kufr according to Hanafi madhab, and yet people don't make takfeer on him, then I consider this partisanship and bias.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                                there is something you need to know about these guys. You guys in Pakistan believe that Tauseefurrahman represents Wahhabism.

                                The truth is, he is not a follower of Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhab. In fact, he is a follower of Ahle Hadees movement of India and Pakistan.

                                The Pakistani Ahle Hadees is against Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhab. They consider him a deviant because he was a proponent of following madhab. But they don't say this in public because they want to be on good terms with Saudis and receive funding from them.

                                They go around the world refuting people who follow Madhab and claim they are following Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn al Qayyim and Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhab, but in reality they are following teachings of Subcontinent Ahle Hadees.

                                Both groups have very different ideologies.
                                Originally posted by Firdousi
                                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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