Is fasting obligatory in Ramadan?

[randolph85]

I like how this idiot Badlun acts like he has found a technicality in Islam and is so happy about it and is shut down by common sense and the scripture he quotes itself.

[Kushan Prince]

Badlun, your acting like those idiots here that think nowruz is okay to celebrate because it was a part of their heritage even though its haram, and then try to associate it with Islam.

You can say one thing that contradicts the Quran and and deny it because you don't agree with the ruling. It just does not work that way.

[Badlun]

No body could explain the real issue that if Quran clearly give you option not to fast then why We keep fast?

[Khostai]

No body could explain the real issue that if Quran clearly give you option not to fast then why We keep fast?

Badlun the fasting is not an option its obligatory, the option that are given instead of fasting are for those that can not fast due to ilness or other condition. It does not mean that if you feed the poor or do something else you are not obligated to fast, thats not how it works. This are not the option that you can choose from. If you are healthy and have no physical problems or ilness you are obligated to fast. So what is so hard to understand about this? You really seems to be dumber than that ghual khushal.

[Badlun]

According to this verse of Holy Quran , fasting is an option not compulsory! You can feed a poor person or fast as fast is always difficult.

Fasting) for a fixed number of days, but if any of you is ill or on a journey, the same number (should be made up) from other days. And as for those who can fast with difficulty, they have (a choice either to fast or) to feed a poor person (for every day). But whoever does good of his own accord, it is better for him. And that you fast, it is better for you if only you know." (2:183-84)

I am talking of this verse which clearly give you an option not only of medical reasons or journey but just any difficulty.

[DaZahroJaam.]

options are given for those who have valid reasons for their inability to fast. and laziness doesn't count as a reason.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

[MENTION=4505]Khostai[/MENTION], good to see you having some common sense.

[Badlun]

options are given for those who have valid reasons for their inability to fast. and laziness doesn't count as a reason.

Is fasting with any difficulty is an option or only health and journey are the two exceptions?

[DaZahroJaam.]

Amongst those of whom it's required to fast, these are the two main reasons that all exceptions are related to.
I understand what you are trying to say. That if you have the option to feed the hungry, why should you starve yourself instead of doing that. The thing is that if you want to help someone, you should do it for the heck of it rather than scoring points with God by feeding the hungry. Your first option is not ridding yourself off of your sins with the help of your wallet.

Don't you like challenges, Badlun??

[Badlun]

Amongst those of whom it's required to fast, these are the two main reasons that all exceptions are related to.
I understand what you are trying to say. That if you have the option to feed the hungry, why should you starve yourself instead of doing that. The thing is that if you want to help someone, you should do it for the heck of it rather than scoring points with God by feeding the hungry. Your first option is not ridding yourself off of your sins with the help of your wallet.

Don't you like challenges, Badlun??

I like challenges but not a challenge like khar ghiarat uko, truck uwahalo! (Donkey did not want to move off the road and the truck hit it)
Why a challenge with no result or a counter productive challenge?

My main concern is the bold red part of the verse of the holy Quran which include any difficulty for not fasting besides health and journey.

Fasting) for a fixed number of days, but if any of you is ill or on a journey, the same number (should be made up) from other days. And as for those who can fast with difficulty, they have (a choice either to fast or) to feed a poor person (for every day). But whoever does good of his own accord, it is better for him. And that you fast, it is better for you if only you know." (2:183-84)

[DaZahroJaam.]

yeah, difficulty related to health or being on a journey. You can't just butcher sentences your own liking.
You know, whether you fast or not, you wouldn't be doing me a favor. See you in hell.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

I am talking of this verse which clearly give you an option not only of medical reasons or journey but just any difficulty.

This verse suggests it's only an option in certain conditions, not in general.

[DaZahroJaam.]

and mind you, for a donkey to be riding a truck is an achievement so that analogy does not make any sense.

[DaZahroJaam.]

God will be the judge of that, not some wannabe talib isis supporting gangster mullah in shorts who also happens to be terrified of ghosts
Also, my name is Lema, not Lema Jan. Cringe**.

[کیش]

Ive been saying that for more than ten years now. As well.

So, saying something as wannabe is illogical, unfathomably ignorant. and blind.


And you are not as bad of a person that you think you are.