Why do you follow Islam?

[25tajik75pashtun]

hahaha obviously you didn't give a scientic answers nor theological, so it is quite obvious you're a teenage boy with identity crisis. As I already can see, your lack of argumentative skill and political knowledge already suggest from which background you from. Given your approach to the subject and the lack of knowledge regarding the subject, one can only assume you had a childhood drama. It is actually quite obvious given your obsession regarding this. People with common sense who doesn't believe it, doesn't waste time on something they have no fate in.
So there is two reasons for your obsession.
1. You had childhood drama
2. Your mom dropped you, when you were a baby (basically you're plain stupid)

Honestly what you've said right now is nothing more than confusing blabbering from the mouth of someone looking down on another. I'm not a teenage boy first of all, I am quite firm and happy with my identity. I'm not the one lacking argumentative skills seeing as you asked very wide and open ranged questions that not even alternate history theorists are able to give short and concise answers to. Now you're simply using an ad hominem 'argument' attacking my alleged past rather than any arguments I've presented.

It seems as though you've never debated in an academic environment, your ramblings really are mundane.

[DSM0305]

Honestly what you've said right now is nothing more than confusing blabbering from the mouth of someone looking down on another. I'm not a teenage boy first of all, I am quite firm and happy with my identity. I'm not the one lacking argumentative skills seeing as you asked very wide and open ranged questions that not even alternate history theorists are able to give short and concise answers to. Now you're simply using an ad hominem 'argument' attacking my alleged past rather than any arguments I've presented.

It seems as though you've never debated in an academic environment, your ramblings really are mundane.

25tajik and 75pashtun, if that not identity crisis then what is, lol. I will stop this 'discussion' with you here, since a teenage kid with identity crisis isn't worth wasting time on. Come back in 5 years when you have matured.

[25tajik75pashtun]

25tajik and 75pashtun, if that not identity crisis then what is, lol. I will stop this 'discussion' with you here, since a teenage kid with identity crisis isn't worth wasting time on. Come back in 5 years when you have matured.

And now you are attacking my ethnic heritage rather than any of the arguments I've presented. You really are a dumb and uneducated buffoon aren't you?

As expected of someone who follows the words of a pedophile.

[Zubr-Zubr]

Also I don't mean to sound arrogant but I definitely know more about Islam, islamic theology and islamic history more than most people, I'm even a hafiz lol

It means you are a donkey loaded with books. Sad.

[Zubr-Zubr]

I like pashtuns, i love afghanistan, i hate the taliban. I'm indifferent towards islam, I'm personally not much of a believer but I accept that it's part of our culture and way of life but it is retrogressive the way we let extremists walk all over us.

He who thinks that Islam has lost its relevance in the modern world is very mistaken. Communism and democracy are manmade system for oppression and abuse of others. It Satanism. Islam is a system from Allah, which is able to solve all the problems of humanity. Sold Islam and Pashtuns Pro-American collaborators and the Communists place on the gallows.

[Cobra]

If you followed Islam you won't be trash. if you follow something follow it fully not when it suits you. like wear a hijab when you want to pass yourself as arab but then when hijab got bad rep, dump it for western faishagari

[Badlun]

The only thing I find attractive in Islam is Sufism. Universal morality sanctioned by Islam like not telling lie, honesty, no murdering innocent human beings etc are also good things. I like spiritual worship practices of Islam but not the rituals.

Pashtuns may remain Muslims spiritually but not culturally or politically. We must differentiate the culture and politics of Arabs from Islam. Similarly the personal and political life of Muhammad must be differentiated from his life as a prophet. His marriage with a 9 years child should be declared his personal act not Sunna.

[Blueberry Mountain]

The only thing I find attractive in Islam is Sufism. Universal morality sanctioned by Islam like not telling lie, honesty, no murdering innocent human beings etc are also good things. I like spiritual worship practices of Islam but not the rituals.

Pashtuns may remain Muslims spiritually but not culturally or politically. We must differentiate the culture and politics of Arabs from Islam. Similarly the personal and political life of Muhammad must be differentiated from his life as a prophet. His marriage with a 9 years child should be declared his personal act not Sunna.

do u have the brain to match sufism?

stick osho

[25tajik75pashtun]

He who thinks that Islam has lost its relevance in the modern world is very mistaken. Communism and democracy are manmade system for oppression and abuse of others. It Satanism. Islam is a system from Allah, which is able to solve all the problems of humanity. Sold Islam and Pashtuns Pro-American collaborators and the Communists place on the gallows.

Except the fact is that in this day and age islam is being replaced in the minds of it's followers with either hardline wahabbism or agnosticism/atheism. Islam is losing no matter what your imam will tell you - in a few decades all of china will be christian, more people are converting to christianity than to islam, and more people are leaving islam than there are people leaving christianity, this isn't some bull****, this is statistics.

The only thing I find attractive in Islam is Sufism. Universal morality sanctioned by Islam like not telling lie, honesty, no murdering innocent human beings etc are also good things. I like spiritual worship practices of Islam but not the rituals.

Pashtuns may remain Muslims spiritually but not culturally or politically. We must differentiate the culture and politics of Arabs from Islam. Similarly the personal and political life of Muhammad must be differentiated from his life as a prophet. His marriage with a 9 years child should be declared his personal act not Sunna.

I agree completely, I said earlier that while I don't like islam, I still see that those who seek to forcefully replace it will cause only bloodshed - islamic values sometimes aren't too bad but the political aspects of it allow bad people to manipulate muslims, this is why I don't like it. Sufism is great, too bad a lot of people don't know much about it and a good number of people consider is heretical to some extent.

[Zubr-Zubr]

Pashtuns may remain Muslims spiritually but not culturally or politically. We must differentiate the culture and politics of Arabs from Islam. Similarly the personal and political life of Muhammad must be differentiated from his life as a prophet. His marriage with a 9 years child should be declared his personal act not Sunna.

You are not right. If Pashtuns will follow your call Allah will get angry. Know why Pashtuns always win the war with huge empires (Britain, the USSR, the USA)? Because always followed the Quran and Sunnah. The Arabs have neglected the Qur'an and the Sunnah and ended in humiliation. The Arab world is losing the Zionists and America, engulfed in civil wars. This is the wrath of Allah. Do you want to Allah angry with Pashtuns? Today Pashtuns win the battle in Afghanistan and the tribal areas only because they follow the Qur'an and Sunnah.

[Zubr-Zubr]

Except the fact is that in this day and age islam is being replaced in the minds of it's followers with either hardline wahabbism or agnosticism/atheism. Islam is losing no matter what your imam will tell you - in a few decades all of china will be christian, more people are converting to christianity than to islam, and more people are leaving islam than there are people leaving christianity, this isn't some bull****, this is statistics.

It's a lie. Islam is the most rapidly growing religion in the world. Every year thousands of people are converting to Islam in Europe and America. The Christian Church on the contrary closed because of the uselessness.

[25tajik75pashtun]

It's a lie. Islam is the most rapidly growing religion in the world. Every year thousands of people are converting to Islam in Europe and America. The Christian Church on the contrary closed because of the uselessness.

Islam is NOT the most rapidly growing religion despite what your imams or some youtube videos tell you. The fact is that every year thousands of MUSLIMS in europe, america and even middle eastern countries/north africa apostatize and become agnostics or atheists.

The other fact is that christianity is spreading FAST in asian countries, china, south korea, japan among others will all be 90% christian by 2050.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html

China will have 250 million christians by 2030. I don't like to see islam lose as it was indeed the religion of my ancestors and I definitely don't like seeing some bull**** like christianity which makes less sense than sunnism to be winning but these are facts.

If you want an example, islam and christianity both entered china around the 7th century, there are only 20-30 million muslim chinese, there are 60-70 million christian chinese - much more if you include diaspora.

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/mythaboutislam.shtml

I don't like using anti-islamic sites to prove my point because there's an underlying bias against islam but even so - all the sources are indicated.

More and more muslims are becoming agnostics or atheists and I thank allah for that.

The educated in every muslim country are secular anyway

[Badlun]

You are not right. If Pashtuns will follow your call Allah will get angry. Know why Pashtuns always win the war with huge empires (Britain, the USSR, the USA)? Because always followed the Quran and Sunnah. The Arabs have neglected the Qur'an and the Sunnah and ended in humiliation. The Arab world is losing the Zionists and America, engulfed in civil wars. This is the wrath of Allah. Do you want to Allah angry with Pashtuns? Today Pashtuns win the battle in Afghanistan and the tribal areas only because they follow the Qur'an and Sunnah.

You mean Pashtuns are living a better life than Arabs because Allah is happy with Pashtuns? Why millions of Pashtuns are serving Arabs like dogs in Middle East? Where Pashtuns have won a single battle? Even Lodhis and Suris were defeated by Mughals. Afghanistan lost its Pashtun parts to Sikhs and British.

Soviet Union left because of the failure of communism not only in Afghanistan but through out the world. Today USA and NATO is leaving after crushing Taliban as they no more rule Afghanistan. If they emerge, it will be only after US leaves Afghanistan and then Taliban will defeat Afghans not foreigners.

Pashtuns are ignorant, poverty stricken, corrupt and religious bigots and I am sure God is not at all happy with Pashtuns. Arabs are far better than Pashtuns.

[Zubr-Zubr]

Islam is NOT the most rapidly growing religion despite what your imams or some youtube videos tell you. The fact is that every year thousands of MUSLIMS in europe, america and even middle eastern countries/north africa apostatize and become agnostics or atheists.

Look at the statistics. In many European countries more mosques than churches.

The other fact is that christianity is spreading FAST in asian countries, china, south korea, japan among others will all be 90% christian by 2050.

The spread of Christianity in Korea, Japan and China is due only to the fact that in these countries is not being Islamic call. I am sure that as soon as the Koreans, the Japanese and the Chinese know about Islam they will become Muslims. Christian religious organizations annually spend millions of dollars on the Christian call in this part of Asia. That is why such statistics.

[25tajik75pashtun]

Look at the statistics. In many European countries more mosques than churches.


The spread of Christianity in Korea, Japan and China is due only to the fact that in these countries is not being Islamic call. I am sure that as soon as the Koreans, the Japanese and the Chinese know about Islam they will become Muslims. Christian religious organizations annually spend millions of dollars on the Christian call in this part of Asia. That is why such statistics.

Well first off, there are MANY MANY more churches in europe than masjids. Let's look at london, england for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_churches_in_London

Look at the number of churches.

In france there are 40,000 churches, big ones at that - there are only 2200 mosques (most of which are just rented out apartments or studios, another chunk of which is just buildings without minarets, and only a handful or so mosques with minarets - which aren't allowed to give the azan hahahaha)

now at mosques (you should say masjid by the way, mosque is an infidel term )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosques_in_the_United_Kingdom

most of these don't even have minarets so you can't even count them as masjids. Some are ahmadiyya/ismaeli and shia so those don't get counted in as muslim either lol

Also, those asian countries have heard the call of islam for centuries - if Islam could not even defeat something as measly and as confusing as hinduism in India then it can't beat something with structure like christianity in asia even though it's had more exposure.