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  • Why do you follow Islam?

    Why do you follow islam? I'm personally an agnostic and could care less, thinking about the muslim state of affairs does nothing but depress me so I stay away from thinking of such things.

    Just here to ask, why do you willingly choose to follow and practise Islam? The prophet muhammad was indeed a warlord who consummated a marriage with a 9 year old, would you be ok with someone doing that to your sister or daughter? Why follow the religion of a man who says camel urine is a medicine that will cure every ailment that plagues you?

    Why follow a religion imposed upon pashtuns by persians and turko-persians under the saffarids and ghaznavids? Why follow a religion that essentially seeks to replace native cultures with heavy arab culture? What happened to proper pashtun names? Everyone is named after some arab or an arabic word nowadays - this is nothing more than arab imperialism would you not agree? At the very least christianity did not change entire cultures or languages but rather was adopted by them - much like almost every single other religion except islam whose god cannot speak any language other than arabic.

    Sunnism at least makes some theological sense when compared to shiism or christianity but even then it's easy for a rational mind to dismiss it - so what keeps you believing in a religion that was forcefully imposed on you, us, afghans by foreigners?

    The most explicit mentioning of the Afghans appears in Al- Baruni’s Tarikh Al-Hind (eleventh century AD). Here it is said that various tribes of Afghans lived in the mountains in the west of India. Al Baruni adds that they were savage people and he describes them as Hindus

    This is what the arabs had to say of us, just as today and in the past pashtuns offered resistance to any who tried to come and change their way of life, so too they resisted islam for as long as they could.

  • #2
    Originally posted by 25tajik75pashtun View Post
    I'm personally an agnostic



    Now I understand why you hate Pashtuns, Afghanistan and the Taliban.

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    • #3
      Can someone please ban this guy and his multiple accounts? he is mentally ill.
      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

      -Old Pashtun proverb




      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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      • #4
        Nice flirting ploy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
          Can someone please ban this guy and his multiple accounts? he is mentally ill.
          So you have no arguments to present or anything constructive to say at all. I've never had an account on here but I have been a long time lurker.

          Did I perhaps strike a nerve?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Zubr-Zubr View Post
            Now I understand why you hate Pashtuns, Afghanistan and the Taliban.
            I like pashtuns, i love afghanistan, i hate the taliban. I'm indifferent towards islam, I'm personally not much of a believer but I accept that it's part of our culture and way of life but it is retrogressive the way we let extremists walk all over us.

            Also I don't mean to sound arrogant but I definitely know more about Islam, islamic theology and islamic history more than most people, I'm even a hafiz lol

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            • #7
              So what is your degree and what have you accomplished in life? Come and share your so called 'wisdom'.
              Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

              People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

              ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
              Ronald Reagan

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

              Pashto dictionary:
              http://thepashto.com/index.php

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                So what is your degree and what have you accomplished in life? Come and share your so called 'wisdom'.
                It's rude not to introduce yourself first you know?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 25tajik75pashtun View Post
                  It's rude not to introduce yourself first you know?
                  I am your father... What do you expect from an online forum, some sort formal introduction? What next, you want hugs and kisses as-well, lol
                  Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                  People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                  ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                  Ronald Reagan

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                  Pashto dictionary:
                  http://thepashto.com/index.php

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                    I am your father... What do you expect from an online forum, some sort formal introduction? What next, you want hugs and kisses as-well, lol
                    Well I'm currently in optometry school I guess, I come from a very religious family which is why growing up I pursued knowledge in terms of learning more about islam and it's history as well as theology. I'm fairly confident I can answer most questions you could have.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 25tajik75pashtun View Post
                      Well I'm currently in optometry school I guess, I come from a very religious family which is why growing up I pursued knowledge in terms of learning more about islam and it's history as well as theology. I'm fairly confident I can answer most questions you could have.
                      hmm Lets play a game called the cat after the mouse.

                      Here is a couple questions:
                      How do you suggest the world come to be?
                      What would have happened if Muhammad didn't exist?
                      What kind of a life would you live, if Muhammad never existed?
                      Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                      People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                      ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                      Ronald Reagan

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                      Pashto dictionary:
                      http://thepashto.com/index.php

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                        hmm Lets play a game called the cat after the mouse.

                        Here is a couple questions:
                        How do you suggest the world come to be?
                        What would have happened if Muhammad didn't exist?
                        What kind of a life would you live, if Muhammad never existed?
                        One can believe a creator created this world of ours from nothing. The notion that this creator is Allah and that his messenger is muhammad is quite simply an archaic and foolish one however.

                        If Muhammad didn't exist, islam would never have existed - it's hard to say how the world would be today if islam never existed.

                        There are simply way too many variables since it takes into concern the alternate reality of an earth with islam. One thing for sure though is that I wouldn't have an arab name for example.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 25tajik75pashtun View Post
                          One can believe a creator created this world of ours from nothing. The notion that this creator is Allah and that his messenger is muhammad is quite simply an archaic and foolish one however.

                          If Muhammad didn't exist, islam would never have existed - it's hard to say how the world would be today if islam never existed.

                          There are simply way too many variables since it takes into concern the alternate reality of an earth with islam. One thing for sure though is that I wouldn't have an arab name for example.
                          You know nothing about cause and effect or even remotely about science.
                          Let me tell you who you're; A little teenage boy who just got his first biology class in elementary and suddenly think he figured out the world, lol.
                          And just so you know, if Muhammad never existed, you or any of your family would have cease to exist.

                          Come back in 5 years when you have matured. Who knows, perhaps you would have got a hang of biology, physics and theology.
                          Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                          People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                          ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                          Ronald Reagan

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                          Pashto dictionary:
                          http://thepashto.com/index.php

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                            You know nothing about cause and effect or even remotely about science.
                            Let me tell you who you're; A little teenage boy who just got his first biology class in elementary and suddenly think he figured out the world, lol.
                            And just so you know, if Muhammad never existed, you or any of your family would have cease to exist.

                            Come back in 5 years when you have matured. Who knows, perhaps you would have got a hang of biology, physics and theology.
                            That's some real nice projecting you've done there. I think I have a good grasp of science given my undergrad was science and that currently I'm in optometry school. You're the one who still believes in the words of a man who had sex with a 9 year old, had 11 wives, beheaded people, was an opportunistic warlord, said that camel urine is a cure for any medical problems one may have, and whose god can only understand arabic. Let's not even get into the fact that I'm most definitely more well versed than you in the sciences as well as islamic theology.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 25tajik75pashtun View Post
                              That's some real nice projecting you've done there. I think I have a good grasp of science given my undergrad was science and that currently I'm in optometry school. You're the one who still believes in the words of a man who had sex with a 9 year old, had 11 wives, beheaded people, was an opportunistic warlord, said that camel urine is a cure for any medical problems one may have, and whose god can only understand arabic. Let's not even get into the fact that I'm most definitely more well versed than you in the sciences as well as islamic theology.
                              hahaha obviously you didn't give a scientic answers nor theological, so it is quite obvious you're a teenage boy with identity crisis. As I already can see, your lack of argumentative skill and political knowledge already suggest from which background you from. Given your approach to the subject and the lack of knowledge regarding the subject, one can only assume you had a childhood drama. It is actually quite obvious given your obsession regarding this. People with common sense who doesn't believe it, doesn't waste time on something they have no fate in.
                              So there is two reasons for your obsession.
                              1. You had childhood drama
                              2. Your mom dropped you, when you were a baby (basically you're plain stupid)
                              Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                              People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                              ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                              Ronald Reagan

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                              Pashto dictionary:
                              http://thepashto.com/index.php

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