Boko haram and inactivity of muslim leaders

[Tiger Khan]

During many years the corrupted government robbed Nigeria. Nigerian people live in poverty. Officials grow rich. This group ("Boko Haram") wants changes and justice in Nigeria. Nigeria a country is rich in natural minerals, largest in Africa exporter of oil. Creation of just islamic government in Nigeria will allow justly to distribute acuestss from the export of natural resources and overcome poverty.

Yeah.. they want justice that's why they abduct school girls.. Do you see the flaw in your logic?

[Tiger Khan]

Tiger Khan,

I dont know much about this group. Despite this, one thing I always try to do whether it involves the Ku Klux Clan, Militant secularists, Militant religionists, Vladimir Putin, or George Bush is that if I hear a claim - I do my best to investigate the issue from every angle.

From what I see there is a significant amount of history and back and forth in both the Central African Republic State and Nigeria. There is far more intricacy than meets the standard media eye that is.

Most of the news these days emanates from the following sources: MSNBC, CBC, BBC, FOX, SKY, Al Jazeera etc. Further complicating trying to ascertain information is that various reporters are beholden to various interests. For instance, Judith Miller of the NY Times was a proven Bush Administration lackey and there are many of these to go around. To date the only truly independent reporting I have seen is from Glen Greenwald who puts his opinions up front and center.

So lets take the recent spate of violence in the Central African Republic. The story being peddled is that the Muslims of CAR bought this upon themselves and that time began just a year or two ago when Seleka forces ravaged the Christians and now the Anti Balaka are delivering a revenge blow.

When the story is dissected further what emerges is a far more complex picture. Reading into the actual history what we see is that the dividing blow to CAR was delivered by the military strongman Bozize who attacked the predominantly north muslim regions and involved the French in his endeavors.

http://en.igihe.com/news/echoes-of-rwanda-impending-genocide-in-the.html

One of the flash point towns was a predominantly Muslim town called Birao was destroyed by Bozize's onslaughts:



The article says this earlier:


The Source is the Berkeley Political Review which is reliable

So as we can see, this is a complex back and forth matter, not just some situation were Muslim Seleka raped and ravaged and are now getting their come upance.

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Now regarding Nigeria, I know little about Boko except that the Nigerian Army has routinely committed crimes against civilians accusing them of being Boko and then robbing them.

But when I read this story from the mass media outlets I knew that there had to be more to this then some random people grabbed some random girls and just decided to have anarchy style fun.

This paper provides the evidence of the actual motive that does not appear anarchal, but rather rooted in a concept very similar to what we experience when our qaumoona and kabaeeloona involve themselves in badaal.

So here it is from the Gaurdian, a superb piece on what caused Boko to do this sort of thing in the first place.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/06/how-nigerian-police-also-detained-women-and-children-as-weapon-of-war

Here is the sub-headline:



The article details the following:



What this means Tiger Khan is that you need to deepen your knowledge well and understand an issue from every angle if you want people to make blanket statements about that issue to accept or condemn it. Otherwise, a few mass media reports about any group today, from Putin's troops to insurgent groups to the situation in Odessa to the situation in Nigeria don't warrant any attention at all in my opinion since the filtering lens repeatedly puts a spin on these issues that suits whoever owns the network.

That being said, the various reports of the atrocities coming out from Amnesty International about both Nigerian forces and Boko (and in CAR Seleka and Anti Balaka) only warrant condemnation of every side of the conflict.

Why are we giving ourselves benefit of the doubt?.. if we do not see the problem we will never fix it.. I used to think that American believes excessively in conspiracy theories.. however, muslims take the cake when it comes to conspiracy theories.. BOKO HARAM needs to go.. they are reputational hazard for muslims..

Also muslims have to be smarter.. after we have been through in last 500 years.. we should know better. .. we should have evolved..

[Tiger Khan]

Were the kidnapped girls Muslim?

Why does it matter if kidnapped girls are muslims or non-muslims.. they are just school girls..

[Tiger Khan]

I also believe that they have given western powers especially America a reason to get more involved in Nigeria (Understand America gets a lot of its Oil from Nigeria).. We know that largest group in Nigeria is Muslim (50-55%) followed by Christains (40-45%) and others (Mostly animist).. however, after western involvement the power is going to be shifted to the hands of non-muslims.. the demographic information would also be altered.. which would show that muslims are around 30% of population and the rest are Christains..

[Manzareh]

Americans love oil, hate muslims. How come wherever there is oil coincidently there is bad 'muslims'

[DaZahroJaam.]

bad muslims are just as common as bad people in general. people are only interested in fixing the ones that are good candidates for exploitation

[Zubr-Zubr]

Yeah.. they want justice that's why they abduct school girls.. Do you see the flaw in your logic?

The details of this incident nobody knows.

[کیش]

I think we should look inwards before we look outwards.. this has harmed muslims a lot in recent time.. because we always blame others for our faults.. I don't care what others say.. I believe.. 911 was carried out by terrorists who were calling themselves muslims...
Muslims should find ways to ensure waste management .. in this case.. its Boko Haram

You believe in anything that comes from a square box. Use you're brain for once, man.

[HalloIsBack]

obama already offered help the nigerian government
that say anything
i already mentioned it

[Tiger Khan]

You believe in anything that comes from a square box. Use you're brain for once, man.

may be you are in denial.. like most of us.. that's why nothing is changing

[Manzareh]

may be you are in denial.. like most of us.. that's why nothing is changing

Anybody that overlooks blatant evidences that 9-11 was an inside job are all in great denial. Its not just a conspiracy theory, many critical thinkers know this, both non-Muslims and Muslims alike including families of the victims.

What would you like changing?

[Tiger Khan]

Anybody that overlooks blatant evidences that 9-11 was an inside job are all in great denial. Its not just a conspiracy theory, many critical thinkers know this, both non-Muslims and Muslims alike including families of the victims.

What would you like changing?

Man.. You are the one who is burying his head in the sand.. Militant islam exists.. yes their actions are usually highlighted by western media etc but we muslim have a problem that has to be managed.. we both know that most muslims do not condone these actions.. however, we do have many deranged people and they have to be managed. these deranged people are a reputational hazard.. and if they are not managed we can not claim that moral high ground.

[Al Hanif]

Man.. You are the one who is burying his head in the sand.. Militant islam exists.. yes their actions are usually highlighted by western media etc but we muslim have a problem that has to be managed.. we both know that most muslims do not condone these actions.. however, we do have many deranged people and they have to be managed. these deranged people are a reputational hazard.. and if they are not managed we can not claim that moral high ground.

What is your solution ?

[Manzareh]

Man.. You are the one who is burying his head in the sand.. Militant islam exists.. yes their actions are usually highlighted by western media etc but we muslim have a problem that has to be managed.. we both know that most muslims do not condone these actions.. however, we do have many deranged people and they have to be managed. these deranged people are a reputational hazard.. and if they are not managed we can not claim that moral high ground.

Before the 'war on terror' by the west the general public didn't even know what an 'Islamist extremist' was or even who fundamentalists/alqaida were because they were almost non-existant, now after going into the Islamic world and waging unecessary wars and publicising a minority and giving terrorists a voice and a pedestal - in the short space of only 10 years there are hundreds if not thousands of these extremist groups and there numbers have increased 10 fold, this means 'Islamic extemism' is a direct product and reaction of the 'war on terror' if not then why was prior terrorism 1% of what it is now? I'll tell you why, it's simple, you distabilize a country and people and benefit from there chaos and anarchy. If you want to manage this hazard then part of the blame is on the organisations that fund extremists such as CIA sponsoring Taliban and most recently rebels in Libya and Syria which are systematically being bred. Why do you ignore one part of the story and paint a picture that general muslims are responsible for global terror. If you want change everyone needs to take responsibility.

[کیش]

may be you are in denial.. like most of us.. that's why nothing is changing

To what I'm i in denial off? Do you know how to play The Game of Thrones.it looks like you're an honorable squire to your leaders.

Two years ago it was all about "Kony" the Congo government was at the edge of falling, so a video was released to garner attention to receive aid to minimize the threat. It was sucessful.

Last year it was Mali. They propagated that Musiims were destroying World heritage sites and oppressing the people. They got France to help yield them.

This year it's Nigeria. They played the hearts of Westerners to ensure their control from Muslims.

All these African countries were colonized by Europeans and were given puppet governments so it may appear they they're independent. But the realities is, they are still owned by Western conglomerates.

Selling people in an auction have been done by the West for hundreds of years. That has always been their business plan in Africa.