Anti-Ahmadiyyah Thread

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

It just shows your hypocrisy.

You don't have to go to Qadian, but you should leave the US. Otherwise, you are agreeing that we should not fight a just government.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

I was never much vulnerable to verbal intimidation and manipulation,these Mirzayee tricks are not gonna work Namomin.
I consider an American Christian a thousand times better than a Qadiani Cult.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Of course, you do. You have just proven my point. Thank you. So, why do have anything against him? Should we also call you an agent of the American Christians?

You sell-out.

Tu kho bekhi yak be sawad baramadi.

You turned out to be really below elementary.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

اګر معیار سیواد پذیرفتن یک جاسوس انګلستان به حیث پیغمبر است پس ما قانع و راضی به این بیسیوادی هستم

[Millatpal Noorzai]

Weren't you just accusing/tagging AkberKhan a hypocrite for name calling and bashing?
Look at your tone and conduct calling me sell out,American agent,illiterate etc.
What does that make you Ahl e Qadian?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I love the reactions in your posts when you are given the same token of accusations.

PRICELESS!

These should be MasterCard moments.

[spogmai shaglay]

Momin.... there many people like me awaiting answers from you......

i consider you as a scholar here and me as a layman.. so please answer my questions.....

you blindly believe Mirza Ghulam to be the prophet.... which mean you dont believe in Khatme nabbuat....and u belive a man who claims to be a prophet ...nauzbillah...

Mirza Ghulam.. a man few decades ago...

and u dont want us to believe in khatme nabooat..or you question our belief?????

i dont know what u r trying to convey here to everybody Momin......

if u r trying to convince us Wrora, trieng to prove our belief wrong....with the many many proofs that you show... i m not even sorry to say Wrora that we dont belive it at alll....

so u also take the meaning of Quran in Methaphorical sense.....

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Sister, how could you miss my points.

Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) is Khatamun Nabiyyeen, no doubt.
Hadhrat Isa (as) is passed away, as per the Quran.
A Messiah is due to come.
That Messiah will be a prophet.
If Hadhrat Isa (as) is passed away, then someone else has to be appointed. How is that person going to know that he is the Messiah? Allah has to reveal it to him. When Allah does that that person has to convey that message to people. What does that make him? It makes him a prophet!

Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) claims to be the Messiah. If he is not, then prove to that Hadhrat Isa (as) is still alive, because that is what Ahmadiyyat stands on.

Have I made myself clear?

[spogmai shaglay]

wait i have more to ask you ......

u assume Hazrat Isa dead (which i dont believe in at all)....i want to see the verse where it is mentioned in the Quran....

also if u assume Mirza to be the Messiah... so there isnt going to be anymore messiah, right????????

what abt Hazrat Mehdi???? u didnt answer myquestion in one of my previous posts..too...

Dajjal concept is so very weird accroding to ur videos.....

Hazrat Isa is going tokill Dajjal (which i frimly believe in)....

if he is dead (acc. to u)... then this Ghulam Mirza was suppose tokilll him...
so does he also claim killing Dajjal????

if Dajjal is dead... what abt Yajjoj and Majooj which Allah tallah was going to send after the death of the Dajjal Fitna....

according to u.. ur pophet long dead... the world should have ended....

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

If Hadhrat Isa (as) is passed away then the rest is self-evident: they should also be taken metaphorically.

The Mahdi and the Messiah would be one person, as per Ibn Majah.

[spogmai shaglay]

what abt other question of mine???

according to what u read it was clearly mentioned that all muslims believe the coming back ofHazrat Isa and only the followers of Ghulam Mirza dontbelive this....

also please answer to my questions about yajooj, majjoj and the end ofthe world...

[شمله ور خراساني]

[malalay]

According to the Hadiths of Prophet Muhammad (saw) Dajjal will be a man with curly hair and a bulging eye..

Volume 9, Book 87, Number 128:
Narrated'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, 'I saw myself (in a dream) near the Ka'ba last night, and I saw a man with whitish red complexion, the best you may see amongst men of that complexion having long hair reaching his earlobes which was the best hair of its sort, and he had combed his hair and water was dropping from it, and he was performing the Tawaf around the Ka'ba while he was leaning on two men or on the shoulders of two men. I asked , 'Who is this man?' Somebody replied, '(He is) Messiah, son of Mary.' Then I saw another man with very curly hair, blind in the right eye which looked like a protruding out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' Somebody replied, '(He is) Messiah, Ad-Dajjal.''

I dont understand, i mean how could the concept of Dajjal be changed. Does that mean Allah brought changes to all these things (i-e death of Hazrat Isa (as) and appointing a new prophet "Mirza" instead of him bcoz people like variety :-/ plus Dajjal being a country or watsoever) after the death of His beloved Prophet (saw)??!

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Beloved sister, if religion was that simple then the Jews would have never rejected any of their prophets.

Also, don't forget that despite the description of the Dajjal, some of the companions of the Prophet (saw) mistook some people for the Dajjal.

So, it means that the description is not literal. To make the point even more clear, the Prophet (saw) saw all of the description of the Latter Days in his dreams. In dreams, you cannot take things literal.

[malalay]

For God sake, we are not talking about any ordinary man's dreams! Even if thats so, then howcum He (pbuh) saw Hazrat Isa as he was and Dajjal not as he would be.?