Anti-Ahmadiyyah Thread

[inqilab]

InshAllah in this thread we will demolish the fundamental beliefs of the ahmadiyyah cult and expose their war against Islam. May Allah curse them and kill them where ever they are and burn them in hell.

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Is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani the Promised Imam Mahdi or Promised Messiah?

Dear Readers

Assalamo alaikum

Islam is the chosen religion of Allah; Quran is the final message of The Creator to mankind, sent to us through His Last and Final Messenger Muhammad. Holy Prophet Muhammad announced in His Ahadith that he is the Final Messenger of Allah. Moreover, he also prophesied the coming of Imam Mahdi (AS)as well as Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam (AS) before the Day of Qiyamah. These three things are part of the faith of Muslims since the time of Holy Prophet Muhammad.

However, during the past 1400 years, there have been many imposters who have laid claim to all these three offices – Prophet, Messiah, Mahdi. During our times we are also faced with such a person, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, the founder of Ahmadiyya Movement. Mirza Ghulam claimed to be a Prophet, Messiah and Imam Mahdi, all in one.

Despite these heretical beliefs, he and his followers claim to be Muslims and Champions of Islam. They label all other Muslims as Kaafirs and disbelievers. Many innocent and ignorant people in Africa gets deceived by these claims of Mirza Ghulam and consider him to be Imam Mahdi or Messiah or reformer in Islam.

This short paper will examine all these claims in the light of Quran and Hadith, for the benefit of our ignorant and unsuspecting Muslims brothers, who have never heard of Mirza Ghulam or Ahmadiyya/Qadianiyah and get deceived by their claims.


Islam – A Chosen Religion:

Allah completed His favors on us and announced:

5:3 This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed my favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your way of life.


Holy Prophet Muhammad - The Final Messenger

Allah announced that there is no Prophet after Syedna Muhammad.

33.40:Muhammad is not the father of any of your men but (he is) the Apostle of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets, and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

Holy Prophet Muhammad. categorically mentioned in many Hadith that he is the Last Messenger and Prophet of Allah, and there will be no Prophets after Him. For instance:

The Holy Prophet observed: "The tribe of Israel was guided by prophets. When a prophet passed away, another prophet succeeded him. But no prophet will come after me; only caliphs will succeed me." (Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Manaqib).

The Prophet of Allah affirmed: "My position in relation to the prophets who came before me can be explained by the following example:

A man erected a building and adorned this edifice with great beauty, but he left an empty niche, in the corner where just one brick was missing. People looked around the building and marvelled at its beauty, but wondered why a brick was missing from that niche? I am like unto that one missing brick and I am the last in the line of the Prophets." (Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Manaqib). (In other words, with the advent of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) the edifice of Prophethood has been completed and there is no empty niche in this edifice to provide room for another prophet.)

The Holy Prophet observed: "God has bestowed upon me six favors which the former Prophets did not enjoy:

I have been endowed with the gift of pithy and perfect speech.

I was granted victory owing to my awe.

The spoils of war were made lawful unto me.

The whole earth has been made the place of worship for me and it has become the means of purification for me also. In other words in my religion, offering of prayers is not confined to certain specified places of worship. Prayers can be offered at any place over the earth. And in case water is not available it is lawful for my people to perform ablutions with earth (Tayammum) and to cleanse themselves with the soil if water for bathing is scarce.

I have been sent by Allah to carry His Divine message to the whole world.

And the line of prophets has come to its final end in me. (Muslim, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah)

The Prophet of Allah affirmed: "The chain of Messengers and Prophets has come to an end. There shall be no Messenger nor Prophet after me." (Tirmidhi, Kitab-ur-Rouya Babu Zahab-un- Nubuwwa, Musnad Ahmad, Marwiyat-Anas bin Malik)

The Holy Prophet observed: "I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. (In other words Doom is my only successor.) And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me." (Bukhari and Muslim, Kitab-ul-Fada'il, Bab: Asmaun-Nabi; Tirmidhi, Kitab-ul- Adab, Bab: Asma-un-Nabi; Muatta', Kitab-u-Asma in-Nabi, Al- Mustadrak Hakim, Kitab-ut-Tarikh, Bab: Asma-un-Nabi.)

The Prophet of Allah observed: "God Almighty hath sent unto the world no apostle who did not warn his people about the appearance of Dajjal (Anti-Christ, but Dajjal did not appear in their time). I am the last in the line of Prophets and ye are the last community of believers. Without doubt,then, Dajjal shall appear from amongst ye". (Ibn Majah, Kitabul-fitan, bab:Dajjal).

'Abdur Rahman bin Jubair reported: "I heard Abdullah bin 'Amr ibn-'As narrating that one day the Holy Prophet came out of his house and joined our company. His manner gave us the impression as if he were leaving us.' He said, 'I am Muhammad, the unlettered prophet of Allah' and repeated this statement three times. Then he affirmed: "There will be no prophet after me'." (Musnad Ahmad, Marwiyat'Abdullah bin Amr ibn'-As.)

The Holy Prophet told Hadrat 'Ali, "You are related to me as Aaron was related to Moses(peace be upon him). But no Apostle will come after me." (Bukhari and Muslim, Kitab Fada'il as-Sahaba)

Thauban reports: "The Holy Prophet observed: And there will arise Thirty imposters in my Ummah and each one of them will pronounce to the world that he is a prophet, but I am the last in the line of the Prophets of God and no Apostle will come after me." (Abu Dawud, Kitab-ul-Fitan)

The Prophet of God said: "No Prophet will come after me and there will, therefore, be no other community of followers of any new prophet." (Baihaqi,Kitab-ul Rouya; Tabarani)

·The Holy Prophet observed: "I am the last in line of the prophets of God and my Masjid is the last Masjid (referring the Holy Masjid of the Prophet)." (Muslim, Kitab-ul-Hajj; Bab:Fadl-us-Salat bi Masjidi Mecca wal Medina)

Readers will note that from these authentic AHadith, it is quite clear that there is no Prophet after Holy Prophet Muhammad. However in total disregard to them, Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani claimed that he is prophet of God. This claim is obviously against preaching of Quran and by Holy Prophet Muhammad.


Who will be Imam Mahdi that is predicted in the Ahadith of Holy Prophet Muhammad?

Another claim that the founder of Ahmadiyya had put forward is that he is Imam Mahdi. Many Muslims have been trapped by this claim. Let us see what Holy Prophet Muhammad had said about the coming of Imam Mahdi.

The world will not come to pass until a man from among my family, whose name will be my name, rules over the Arabs. (Tirmidhi Sahih, Vol. 9, P. 74; Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 5, P. 207; also narrated by Ali b. Abi Talib, Abu Sa'id, Umm Salma, Abu Hurayra)

Allah will bring out from concealment al-Mahdi from my family and just before the day of Judgment; even if only one day were to remain in the life of the world, and he will spread on this earth justice and equity and will eradicate tyranny and oppression. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, P. 99)

Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initially was filled with oppression.(Abu Dawood)

·The promised Mahdi will be among my family. God will make the provisions for his emergence within a single night. (Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)

·The promised Mahdi will be among my progeny, among the descendants of Fatima.(Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 207; Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)

·The Mahdi will be of my family, of the descendants of Fatima (the Prophet's daughter). (Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 2, Tradition No. 4086)

·Al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt). (Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 2, Tradition No. 4085)

·Our Mahdi will have a broad forehead and a pointed (prominent) nose. He will fill the earth with justice as it is filled with injustice and tyranny. He will rule for seven years. (Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, p. 208; Fusul al-muhimma, p. 275)

·After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madina) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him. Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground. On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will pass away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat. (Abu Dawood)

·A group of my Ummah will fight for the truth until near the day of judgment when Jesus, the son of Marry, will descend, and the leader of them will ask him to lead the prayer, but Jesus declines, saying: "No, Verily, among you Allah has made leaders for others and He has bestowed his bounty upon them." (Sahih Muslim)

According to these reliable, authentic, and universally accepted narrations, Imam Mahdi will:

1.Be from among the family of Prophet(SAW), among the descendants of Fatima(RA);

2.Have a broad forehead and pointed noise;

3.Appear in one night;

4.Appear just before the day of judgment;

5.Have same name as Hazrat Muhammad(SAW);

6.Escape from Madina to Makkah where people will pledge allegiance to him;

7.Receive pledge and help of Iraqi people;

8.Fight in battles;

9.Rule over the Arabs for seven years according to Sunnah;

10.Spread justice and equity on earth;

11.Eradicate tyranny and oppression;

12.Lead a prayer in Makkah which Jesus(pbuh) will follow in;

13.NOT be the same individual as the Promised Messiah (Jesus).

Did Mirza Ghulam Qadiani fulfilled these criteria and performed his duties?

Hadith regarding the coming of Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam

Mirza claimed that he is the Promised Messiah, Eisa Ibne Maryam, that was prophesiced by the Holy Prophet,who he will come before the Day of Judgement. Was he correct in his claim? Let us see, what Holy Prophet SAAW said about this:

"By Him in Whose Hand is my life, Ibn Maryam (Jesus Christ) would certainly pronounce Talbiyah for Hajj or for Umrah or for both (simultaneously as a Qarin) in the valley of Rawha." (Sahih Muslim, Book 7, No. 2877)

"Allah will send Maseeh ibne Maryam (Messiah son of Mary). Thus he will descend near the White Eastern Minaret of Damascus, clad in two yellow sheets, leaning on the shoulders of two angels." (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 8, P. 192-193)

"Hazrat Masih(SAW) will die after completing the duration he was destined to pass in the world and that Muslims would offer his funeral prayers and bury him next to the grave of the holy Prophet, Hazrat Abu Bakr and Hazrat Umar (RAs)." (Mishkat, P. 480)

By Him in Whose Hand is my life, Ibn Maryam (Jesus Christ) would certainly pronounce Talbiyah for Hajj or for Umrah or for both (simultaneously as a Qarin) in the valley of Rawha. (Sahih Muslim, Book 7, No. 2877)

"By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, Son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizyah (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no one will accept charitable gifts." (Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 3, Book 34, No. 425)

Mujammi Ibn Jariyah al-Ansari(RA) stated that he heard the Messenger of Allah(SAW) say: The son of Mary will kill the Anti-Christ (Dajjal) at the door of Ludda. (Tirmidhi and Ahmad)

According to these authentic and universally accepted Hadith:

1. The Promised Messiah is none other than Hazrat Isa bin Maryam(pbuh) (Jesus);
2. He will descend among Muslims, near the White Eastern Minaret of Damascus, Syria, clad in two yellow sheets (dyed with saffron), while leaning on the shoulders of two angels;
3. He will pray behind Imam Mahdi;
4. He will fight with, chase, and kills Dajjal (the Anti-Christ) at the gate of Ludd;
5. Messiah will rule justly according to the Laws of Islam and not Gospel;
6. People of the Book will accept him as a Messenger of Allah(SWT) and will embrace Islam (Quran 4:159); subsequently, Cross (Christianity) and Jizyah tax (on non-Muslims) will be abolished;
7. He will encounter attack of Gog and Magog and will be victorious;
8. Islam and justice will rule, oppression will be eliminated, and no fighting (War) will be needed (will be abolished);
9. Everyone will be well off and hatred, jealousy, and grudge will disappear;
10. Messiah will perform Hajj and/or Umra;
11. He will die after living on earth for 40 years and will be buried in a grave next to the holy Prophet(SAW).

His advent is a sign for the closeness of the day of Judgment (Quran, 43:61)

Did Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani fulfil any of these conditions, which Holy Prophet SAAW swore that they would take place?

Was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, the Prophet or the Promised Messiah or Imam Mahdi?

Read carefully these Ahadith, look at the state of Muslim world. Mirza knew that he was lying about being a Prophet of God, or Promised Messiah or Imam Mahdi, because:

·Mirza was son of Chiragh Bibi, and not Son of Mary!

·He did not belong to the family of Holy Prophet SAAW.

·He never got a chance to rule the country and establish justice.

Mirza Qadiani admitted:

·"I do not claim that I am the same Mahdi who will come according to (words of Hadith) 'from the son of Fatima and from my progeny' etc." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya V, Roohani Khazain vol.21 p.356)

·"We admit this that several Mahdis may have come before and possibly will come in future as well and probably someone by the name of Imam Muhammad may also appear." (Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.379)

·"It is possible and quite possible that at some time in future such Messiah may appear upon whom the literal words of Hadith(of Holy Prophet) fit, because this humble self has not come with the Reign and Command of this world, but with poverty and humility." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol 3 p.197)

·"It is possible that in future no Messiah may come. It is possible 10,000 more Messiah may come and one of them may descend in Damascus." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol 3 p.251)

Dear Brothers! Mirza knew that he is not that Imam Mahdi, the Divine Leader that is promised by Holy Prophet SAAW, yet his followers keep insisting that he was Imam Mahdi. If he is Imam Mahdi, then obviously he miserably failed to do his job.

Dear Readers! Mirza himself was aware that whatever he has claimed is totally against what has been mentioned by Holy Prophet Muhammad but he was so overcome by his satanic desires that he did not realize that he is committing blasphemy. He justified his claims by saying:

"The basis for our claims is not Hadith but Quran and that Wahi which comes to me. Yes, in support we also present those Hadith which are according to Quran and DO NOT CONTRADICT MY WAHI. Rest of the Hadith, I THROW THEM AWAY LIKE A WASTE PAPER." (Roohani Khazain vol.19 p.140)

Dear Readers! It is clear that the founder of Ahmadiyya Movement had laid claims contradictory to Quran and Hadith. The Islamic scholars of Makkah, Madina, Cairo and the entire Muslim world declared as apostate, disbelievers, and out of the fold of Islam, him and his followers. He died 100 years ago, but his followers continue to deceive people in the name of Islam. Ignorance from Islamic teachings, and, ignorance from Mirza Ghulam and his teachings is the basic fault, which is exploited by the missionaries of Ahmadiyya. It is the duty of every Muslim to be on their guard against such deception. No Muslim should be allowed to get trapped out of ignorance. Knowingly if someone joins them, then of course there is no compulsion in religion.

May Allah protect Muslims from the fraudulent doctrine of Ahmadiyya/Qadianiyah movement in the name of Islam. O Allah! Bring ignorant Muslims who have been trapped by them, back to the fold of Islam, let them see what is right and what is wrong and then give them the hidayah to follow the right path. Ameen.

Wa maa alaina illa al-balaagh
Wassalamo alaikum wr wb

Dr. Syed Rashid Ali

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Copy and paste? Come on brother, you are better than that. Would you like me to copy and paste websites that try to refute Islam?

Have you even read any book written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad?

[inqilab]

Yes it is a copy and paste. What moron would re-type everything when it is already online?

Your a silly person.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

If you think that Hadhrat Isa (as) will descend then he must be alive, right? Where in the Quran does it refer to him being alive?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Yes it is a copy and paste. What moron would re-type everything when it is already online?

Your a silly person.

It is dishonest. Would like me to copy and paste websites that are against Islam? Would that prove anything?

[inqilab]

patience. You will be answered to.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

^Is this how one should talk to someone who recites the kalima shahadah?

[inqilab]

Who was the God of Mirza?

God is like Leopard

"Qayyoom-ul-Alameen (Qayyoom is one of the attributes of Allah), is such hugh body, who has uncountable hands and feet and every limb is in such abundance that it cannot be counted, and has endless width and length and like a Leopard, this hugh body also has wires which is extending to all corners of the earth." (Roohani Khazain vol. 3 p.90)
God Praises Mirza

Yet another revelation, God tells Mirza: " Arabic: NaHmadoka - I praise you." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p. 97)

This is something which Allah has not done even for Holy Prophet Muhammad!!!


God has come down for Mirza

And yet another one: "I have come down for you." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p. 97)


God will descend in Qadian

"Once I had this inspiration that God will descend in Qadian, according to his promise." (Tadhkirah, Collection of Inspirations p.452, 2nd Edition)


True God

"True God is the same God who has sent His Messenger in Qadian." (Dafa AlBala, Roohani Khazain vol. 18 p.231)

This means that if Mirza is a true Prophet then the God who has sent him in Qadian is a true God, but since Mirza is a false claimant, then the so-called 'God' who is sending all these revelations, and on whose basis Mirza is claiming to be a Prophet, is not a True God, but Satan!!! In the following section it becomes more and more obvious that the this so-called God, was actually Satan who was communicating with Mirza, taking him deeper and deeper into the hell fire with him.


God's Tongue has some sickness

Quran and Hadith confirm that with the advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW, Prophethood and therefore Revelation has to come to end. Mirza however claimed that he is a Prophet and recipient of revelation from God. Among many other arguments that he put forward to justify his claims, he offered this cheap and slip-shod argument:

"Can any intelligent person accept this that in this age God listens but does not say anything. Now after this, the question will arise that why doesn't He speak? Has He developed some sickness on His tongue." (Zamima Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya Part 5, Roohani Khazain vol. 21 p.312)


God will come like a thief

Another example of a third-rate description of Allah's Attributes, this seems to be quite characteristic of Mirza Ghulam.

"That God, under whose possession is every particle, where can a person run away from Him. He says that like a thief I will come secretly." (Tajilliyat-e-Illahiyah, Roohani Khazain vol. 20, p. 396)


God admits making mistakes

In one of His revelations to Mirza Ghulam, God admits that He make mistakes.

"(Arabic) Akhtee wa Aseeb - (translation: I will also make mistakes and will make it right)" (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p. 106)


The Mirza goes on to explain this revelation in his own words:

"The apparent meaning of revelation of God is that I will also make mistakes and sometimes I will make it right. That is, what I will, sometimes I will fulfill it and sometimes I won't." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p. 106, footnote)


God will fast and break the fast

In another revelation God informs Mirza: "I will break the fast and I will also fast." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p. 107)


Heavens and Earth are with Mirza

"Earth and Heaven are with you as it is with me." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p.78)


Quran is the talk of Mirza's mouth

"Quran is God's book and the talk of my mouth." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p.87)


Mirza is the throne of God

Another revelation informs Mirza:

"You are from me like my Throne." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p.89)


Mirza is God

"I saw in one of my vision that I myself am God and believed that I am Him." (Kitab-ul-Bariayh, Roohani Khazain vol. 3 p.103)


God entered Mirza's body

"God entered my body ... and in this condition I was saying that WE WANT A NEW SYSTEM AND NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH. Thus initially I created Heaven and Earth in a condensed form in which there was no system or differentiation, then according to God's wish, I created a system and differentiation, and I was watching that I have the power to create this. Then I created the Asmaan-e-Duniya (Lowest Heaven) and said that 'We have beautified the world's heaven with lamps". Then I said that now we will create human from the extract of earth..." (Kitab-ul-Bariyah, Roohani Khazain vol. 3 p. 104-105)


God converts Mirza into a woman

"Like Maryam the soul of Eisa was breathed into me and metaphorically I was made pregnant, and after many months, which were not more than 10 months, through that inspiration which is mentioned in the end of Braheen Ahmadiyya part 4 page 556, I was converted from Maryam to Eisa, thus this is how I became Eisa Ibne Maryam." (Kishtee-e-Nooh, Roohani Khazain vol. 19 p. 50)

So from Mirza Ibne Chiraagh Bibi, Mirza becomes Maryam, becomes pregnant and 10 months later, deliver himself as Jesus, and then claims that he is Eisa Ibne Maryam, the Promised Messiah. What is he? TWO in ONE!!!!


Menstruation of Mirza and The Child of Allah

In one revelation, Mirza's god informs him:

"Babu Ilahi Bukhsh wants to see your menstruation or get information on some filth and impurity but God will show you his rewards, which will continue, and in you there is no menstruation but that child is developing, such a child who is like the Child of Allah." (Tatumma Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p.581)

So Mirza becomes pregnant once again!!!


Wife of God - Mirza's God (satan) performs intercourse with him

"On one occasion Hazrat Maseeh Mowood expressed his this condition that state of revelation came upon in such a way that as if he is woman and God has expressed His Power of Virility in him (i.e. performed intercourse), for those who can understand hint is enough." (Islami Qurbani Tract No. 34 By Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani)

Astaghfirullah, Ma'azAllah. Since the advent of mankind, no one, I repeat no one, has ever expressed such a rotten accusation against Allah, not even false claimants. And what kind of God would repeatedly convert his prophet into a woman. Therefore this so-called 'god' has to be satan!!!
Mirza, the son of god

"You are from me, like my own son..... Since in this age, stupid Christians had made Jesus God, therefore Divine expedience wanted that more forceful words are used for this humble self so that the eyes of Christians open and they understand that those words with which they make Jesus as God, there is one in this Ummah also for whom more forceful words of such kinds have been used." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p. 89 + footnote)

Mirza as the Unity of God

"You are from me as my UNITY and INDIVIDUALITY." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p.89)


God coming down as the son of Mirza

Another revelation informs Mirza:

"We give you the glad tidings of a son, with which the Haq will be manifested, as if God has descended from Earth." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol. 22 p.99)

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Inqilab, could you please give the link to the original books and sources. Thank you.

Instead of blindly posting everything without going through them yourself and checking their validity, have some fear of Allah and confirm what you are posting by giving the links to everything. Otherwise, you are not being honest and are misleading people.

There is no harm in posting the original Urdu.

[inqilab]

YouTube - Qadiyanis please become muslims

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Brother, copying and pasting is not the way.

Take one quote at a time and discuss it. Give us your insight and show us from his writings where you disagree.

[inqilab]

The Descent Of Jesus Son Of Mary, As Portrayed In The Quran
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The Quran makes three references to the return of Jesus son of Mary (may peace be upon him) to the earth - i.e. his descent from the sky - in order to accomplish various tasks.

THE FIRST REFERENCE: is in Surah Nisaa’, verses (156-159). As for the context of these verses, Allah, the Exalted, mentions the fabrications of the Jews, their slander of Mary, their rejection of Faith, and claim that they killed Jesus son of Mary - the Messenger of Allah. Thereupon Allah, the Exalted, declares the falsity of these claims and says, "And because of their saying (boasting), ‘We killed Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah,’ - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so." [an-Nisaa’ 4:157] We have learned from the preceding sections about the disciple who resembled Jesus and voluntarily sacrificed and ransomed himself, as has been specifically stated by the leading scholars of Islam.

SO WHAT EXACTLY HAPPEDNED THEN? Allah, the Exalted, raised Jesus son of Mary to the sky. His enemies, the Jews, failed to harm him, let alone kill and crucify him. This is a clear and unambiguous text that carries no room for another interpretation. It states clearly that Allah, the Exalted, raised Jesus to Himself - bodily and his soul - in order to save him from the Jews murdering and crucifying him. Allah, the Exalted, says in the Quran, "But Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise." [an-Nisaa’ 4:158]

So, if anyone claims that only the soul was raised, it would be incorrect, as is shown from the two following perspectives.

FIRSTLY , Allah made a mention of this raise in the context of refutation of the claim of the Jews that they killed the Christ. So, if it were that only the soul was raised, then that would actually mean an acknowledgment of the claim of the Jews that they killed the Christ - which is to remove his soul!

SECONDLY , if it were true that only his soul was raised, there would remain no distinction for Jesus above the rest. For all Prophets (peace be upon them), and in fact all believing Muslims, have their souls raised to the sky upon their death. So, does there remain anything that distinguishes Jesus, for which Allah makes a special marked mention in the Quran that He raised him?

After establishing this point, another Quranic verse follows in the same context of the ones that preceded. This one clearly bears evidence on another return of the Christ (peace be upon him) to the earth and that he will descend from the sky. The purpose of this is the crucial role he will play upon his return to the earth. Allah, the Exalted, says, "And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) but must believe in him before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection, he will be a witness against them." [an-Nisaa’ 4:159]

The verse presents the message in a future tense, so it is with regards to the events to come after the raising of the Christ. It informs that some of the People of the Book will believe in the Christ. But when will that be? It will be upon his descent, his return and coming onto the earth once again. Imam Tabari, the renowned scholar of the Quranic exegesis (may Allah cover him in mercy), explained this. He said, “The meaning of the verse ‘And there is none of the people of the Scripture but must believe in him’, that is: in Jesus, ‘before his death’, that is: before the death of Jesus. It is explained as follows: that all of them will affirm and acknowledge him when he descends to kill the Antichrist, thereafter, all the religion will give way to only the one, which is the pure upright religion of Islam - the religion of Abraham (may the peace be him)." [See Tafsir at-Tabari 4:356-357].


THE SECOND REFERENCE in the Noble Quran to the imperative nature of the descent of Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, in order to complete the task that must be done on the earth, is found in Surah Zukhruf in the Quran. Allah, the Exalted, says in it, "And when the son of Mary is quoted as an example (i.e. Jesus worshipped like their idols), behold, your people cry aloud (laugh out at the example). And say: Are our gods better or is he (i.e. Jesus)? They quoted not the above example except for argument. Nay! But they are a quarrelsome people. He (i.e. Jesus) was not more than a slave. We granted Our Favor to him, and We made him an example for the Children of Israel (i.e. his creation without a father). And if it were Our Will, We would have (destroyed you all, and) made angels to replace you on the earth. And he (i.e. Jesus) shall be a known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (i.e. Day of Resurrection). Therefore have no doubt concerning it. And follow Me (i.e. Allah)! This is the Straight Path." [az-Zukhruf 43:57-61] . In another recitation, it is recited as "And he shall be a mark". It means, a symbol, a portent, a sign of the Hour. [See Fat hu-l Qadeer of Shawkaani, (4/562) for references of those who read it so.]

How can Jesus son Mary, be a sign of the Hour (Doomsday)? It cannot be except with his descent being in the last stage and period. His descent would then be a great sign and one of the major portents of the Hour - a sign that announces the closeness of its occurrence. This is how the verse has commonly been explained by the scholars of Tafsir (exegesis of the Quran). Amongst them are Mujahid, Suddee, Qatada, Hasan al-Basri, Dahhaak and Ibn Zayd. It is also the saying of Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him). They all have stated this explicitly, that Jesus son of Mary is one of the signs of the Hour in the sense that he will descend and rule the earth and dwell therein for forty years, as is mentioned in the authentic hadith, that will be mentioned shortly. And his descent will be one of the great signs of Allah and one of the supreme portents of the Hour.

THE THIRD REFERENCE TO IT IN THE QURAN The deduction from this text is indeed remarkable. One notes that there is hardly ever a mention of the story of Jesus (in the Quran) except that it is mentioned along with it that, "He will speak to the people in the cradle and in manhood" [Aal `Imraan 3: 46 , and al-Maa’ida 5:110] . In this, Allah mentioned two remarkable and rare events, that are also two dazzling signs (proofs) of Allah found in the character of Jesus Christ.

THE FIRST MATTER is that he spoke in the cradle while still an infant. This does not occur except as a miracle from Allah, the Mighty, and the Magnificent. That is why it has never occurred except with three people as has been established in the authentic hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah (may Allah be pleased with him). [See Saheeh Bukhari (4/201-202)]. So the speaking of Jesus (peace be on him) in the cradle was indeed a sign, and there was a need, and the circumstance called for it as the mother of Jesus came to be held in suspicion due to the birth, `how can a woman give birth without a husband?' They even voiced this explicitly, as reported in the Quran, "Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman." [Maryam 19:28]

So, a miracle was required to prove her innocence and to prove that the birth was another such a miracle. Thus the infant spoke in the cradle, an extraordinary, unaccustomed event. But the verse couples this miraculous event, with the mention of another event - of him speaking as a middle-aged adult. But every one speaks at that age. So where is the miracle in that? The Arabic word used in the verse that refers to that stage of his life, is Kuhoola, which is used for a person past the age of forty and up to the age of fifty or sixty years. Is it at all remarkable that one speaks at the age of sixty or even seventy?! So where is the miracle that is alluded to in this section of the verse which mentions that Jesus speaks as a middle aged man?

This shows that just as his speech in the cradle as an infant was a miracle, likewise he will descend and speak to the people as a middle aged man in the last stages of this world, making his descent and speech thereupon, also a miracle. Otherwise, there is no miracle in a sixty or seventy year old communicating by speech!

So the evidence from this section of the verse in the Quran that he will speak to the people as a middle-aged adult is from the following two perspectives.

FIRSTLY , some of the scholars of Islam, amongst them is ibn Musayyab, stated that Jesus son of Mary, was raised to the sky while he was at an age of thirty three years, in the prime of his youth (referred to in Arabic as Shabaab, which is a stage prior to the one mentioned in the Quran, Kuhoola). So he had not yet reached the stage of Kuhoola.

SECONDLY , here comes the aspect of amazement, marvel and the miracle. The aspect, which bears evidence on the point, is that he speaks to the people as a middle-aged man (in Kuhoola) after having been raised, and his being raised is indeed an astonishing event. And he will descend, and his descent is also another astonishing, remarkable event. He will then speak to the people and will live after his descent for forty years. This forty added to the thirty years makes him someone who would have reached the age of Kuhoola, and having spoken at that age. He will then have spoken to the people as he spoke to them in the cradle. This is a clear and unambiguous indication that he (peace be upon him) will certainly complete his role and his part, and will descend towards the last stages and speak to the people as a middle-aged man, just as he spoke miraculously as an infant. Imam Tabari related from Abdurahman ibn Zayd that he said, ‘Jesus did indeed speak to them in the cradle, and he will speak to them when he kills the Antichrist, he will then be a kahl (middle-aged person)." [Tafsir Tabari 3/271]

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YouTube - Qadianis exposed again

The real Qadiani belief is that only members of their jamaat are Muslims.

That was the reason they did not say funeral prayers of other Muslims. However, since 1974, when Ahmadis have been declared heretics by the Pakistani Parliament the Qadianis have been trying to wriggle out of their real beliefs.

They try and deceive people by saying they regard everyone who recites the kalima as a Muslim. Here, in an interview in the aftermath of the deplorable attack on their mosque, they are stumped when confront by their true beliefs.

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Inqilab, everything you posted above gets refuted by these verses. Translation is by Asad:

[5:116] AND LO! God said: "O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, `Worship me and my mother as deities beside God'?" [Jesus] answered: "Limitless art Thou in Thy glory! It would not have been possible for me to say what I had no right to [say]! Had I said this, Thou wouldst indeed have known it! Thou knowest all that is within myself, whereas I know not what is in Thy Self. Verily, it is Thou alone who fully knowest all the things that are beyond the reach of a created being's perception.

[5:117] Nothing did I tell them beyond what Thou didst bid me [to say]: `Worship God, [who is] my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer.' And I bore witness to what they did as long as I dwelt in their midst; but since Thou hast caused me to die, Thou alone hast been their keeper:'

[5:118] If thou cause them to suffer - verily, they are Thy servants; and if Thou forgive them - verily, Thou alone art almighty, truly wise!"