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  • #46
    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
    ..not everything is "shirk" just because some lunatic from the Gulf says so.

    Most Pashtuns value Sufism; if you don't like it, go to Saudi Arabia.

    Seeking help from anyone beside Allah is minor shirk.
    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
      Seeking help from anyone beside Allah is minor shirk.
      but that's not what they do; tawassul is asking Allah(swt) to help them on their servan'st behalf.

      also even if they did; as long as they see Allah(swt) as the one who benefits them and grants this authority. It can't be shirk
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #48
        why are people so obsessed with sufis? some of their practices are haram but they are harmless people. i am more concerned about salafis who also have haram practices but are anything but harmless in some instances. sufis will always be a small minority in muslim countries and hold no real power.
        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

        Sayyid Qutb

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        • #49
          It is in the hand of Allah,may Allah guide them.
          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
            why are people so obsessed with sufis? some of their practices are haram but they are harmless people. i am more concerned about salafis who also have haram practices but are anything but harmless in some instances. sufis will always be a small minority in muslim countries and hold no real power.
            LOL what haram pracitices the salafi do? please tell!!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
              ..not everything is "shirk" just because some lunatic from the Gulf says so.

              Most Pashtuns value Sufism; if you don't like it, go to Saudi Arabia.
              STFU you fag.....by most pashtuns you mean those who follow thier mulla's....im sure more than half of them dont know what the hell is suffi and salafi...etc


              wth is this mu'atazila doing after all the lies he try to make in quran and hadiths....etc

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              • #52
                Originally posted by sunni View Post
                STFU you fag.....by most pashtuns you mean those who follow thier mulla's....im sure more than half of them dont know what the hell is suffi and salafi...etc


                wth is this mu'atazila doing after all the lies he try to make in quran and hadiths....etc


                Most Pashtuns as in the majority Pashtun population; Wahhbism is for Saudis. let them follow that.
                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by sunni View Post
                  LOL what haram pracitices the salafi do? please tell!!
                  suicide bombing in civilian places where Muslims live
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • #54
                    imma wait till the fat mod reply.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by sunni View Post
                      LOL what haram pracitices the salafi do? please tell!!

                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                        so if they dont do this kind of things, they are not doing any haram things?

                        and what if you found out that all this is lies and non of them would kill innocent people?

                        ps: what are you...sufi, mua'tazila, ashari....etc?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by randolph85 View Post

                          Proof?
                          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by sunni View Post
                            so if they dont do this kind of things, they are not doing any haram things?

                            and what if you found out that all this is lies and non of them would kill innocent people?

                            ps: what are you...sufi, mua'tazila, ashari....etc?

                            if they don't do those kind of things? what are you talking about? THEY DO, that is the point.

                            salafis bombing innocents from iraq to pakistan is not a lie, its been happening for years and the salafis have taken credit for it.

                            i don't identity with any sects because all they do is cause division. i do however follow mainstream sunni thought, but don't think thats worthy of calling myself "sunni," because calling oneself a muslim is enough.
                            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                            Sayyid Qutb

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                              Proof?

                              Al-Qaida linked group claims Kabul suicide attack on Shia pilgrims
                              http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/06/al-qaida-kabul-attack-shia-pilgrims
                              Lashkar-e-Jhangvi al Almi, an obscure Pakistani extremist group claims responsibility for attack that killed at least 55 people
                              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                                if they don't do those kind of things? what are you talking about? THEY DO, that is the point.

                                salafis bombing innocents from iraq to pakistan is not a lie, its been happening for years and the salafis have taken credit for it.
                                Really? so what if i post proves of talibans and mujahiden stopping thier oprations only becuz there are civilians, what are you going to say about this?
                                OH and this videos always gets deleted in youtube, you should know why.

                                and whats your prove for your claims?

                                those who work with NATO and western gov aren't civilians.
                                those who are in the afghan army ( the puppets) aren't civilians.
                                the ghosts deads who are only number's aren't civilians.

                                the last opration on the US Base in kabul they claimed there are civilians deads where the taliban disagree to this claims and it was true there are no civilians over there. you believed the F western media over the taliban? you believed the kuffar over muslims without they have proved anything.
                                you need to fix yourself.
                                i don't identity with any sects because all they do is cause division. i do however follow mainstream sunni thought, but don't think thats worthy of calling myself "sunni," because calling oneself a muslim is enough.
                                we follow the quran and sunna....you and whoever here can't dare prove us WRONG...but on the other hand we can prove those who follow whatever they like, they are wrong.

                                so you follow whatever your minds like or think its right? tell me do you believe in Attributes of God? do you believe allah have hands, face....?

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