The extremism in Muslims?

[sunni]

So why dont you destroy your own house to prevent people from worshipping that house.
Why dont people just burn the bodies of the dead like the hindus instead of burying them. by your logic the hindus got it right by burning the dead bodies to prevent them from being worshipped.

Why are the Saudi building grand hotels near the Kaaba, arn't those hotels being worshipped, people are skipping prayer and instead are going shopping in those grand malls, arnt those malls being worshipped.

Killing and destoying, that all you know. That is the solution of the imcompetent. you are al jahilya

you are just hate em, i really dont care about the saudi gov all i care about is islam and muslims.

are you suffi? just asking.

im not here to reprsent the saudi gov lol and let me tell you NOT EVERYTHING THE MULLA CAN DO IT IN SAUDI ARABIA.

why dont u defend your prophet instand of talking of your historic stuff!!??

why did the prophet saw destroied all the budda and there are lots of hadith about it?
cuz ppl worshipped em.

this is NOT right what are you saying.

[randolph85]

did the prophet destroy the graves of muslims?

[sunni]

did the prophet destroy the graves of muslims?

which graves?

[randolph85]

the graves of muslims who died before him, and the ones who died after him. the ones who his companions didn't even destroy and no one dared destroy until the wahabi/western alliance took over the country.

so when are they going to demolish the prophets masjid in medina?

must be too much of a cash cow for our faithful saudis.

[ScimitarXEdge]

What does this guy being Uighur have to do with anything?



Al-Arab you're Iraqi which makes you must3arab and not even a real Arab, no need to attack or even mention his ethnicity.

Nothing this man said could be construed in the most obscure light to be an insult. The only people who are upset are the mentally ill and the perverse like these disease infested Kharejiyat. One minute they deny the Sauds but next they follow the way of thinking the Saudi rodents fund with their dirty money

I will say similar things in regards to the Prophet(saw)


The Prophet was a man, the Prophet made mistakes, he had flaws, he was human just like we are He wasn't superior to me and I am not inferior to him.

What are you guys gong to do about it?

[کیش]

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I have to impugn your testimony: being equal to the Prophet because of him being human. The Prophet was human, but his mission wasn't a natural human one. Of the billions of humans to be created, Muhammad Ibn Abdullah was chosen to be the representative of god on earth. He was the mediator to bringing god's command. the Prophet brought the one lord theory back, and showed his people the miracles to proof it.

ScimitarXEdge is merely just a plain intellectual human. He is a believer of Allah, but doesn't have the task to affect the ummah. It isn't your job too either.

[Karachi]

I think the problem here is of understanding, guys like sunni and al arab dont understand that some times even muslims can go through phases of questioning certain things in Islam, instead of answering or helping such people, these people attack them.

To me his tweets were not insults, they were questions that he was asking

The intolerance and lack of understanding shown by these extremist muslims is probably the main reason why even so many muslims dont prefer living in sharia environment, because they fear guys like sunni and al arab will come in to power

[Perseveranze]

Anyone who insults the Prophet(pbuh) should be executed. Some scholars are on the opinion that if he repents he can be forgiven.

It's not just about insulting the Prophet(pbuh), it's about causing disruption within society.

There are also Shariah punishments for those who insult people of other faiths, or even those people themselves, as it would count as "hate speech".

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). 'Whoever makes a snide comment to a dhimmi (Non-Muslim) has earned Hell.' (Narrated by Ibn Hibbaan in his Saheeh)

Hate speech puts the peace and harmony between communities in danger. This is why Islam has a strict stance against it.

This is not to mistake it as "repressing freedom of speech". Islam isn't against freedom of speech, it never has been.

Just look throughout history, especially the early Muslims, you had many discussions and debates between Muslims and Non-Muslim, all within an Islamic state. Read up on people like Al-Razi to see for yourself.

These people critisised the Prophet(pbuh) and the Qur'an, but never insulted. The Muslims wouldn't persecute them, instead they'd engage in progressive and fruitful discussions.

Famous philosophers like Thomas Paine and John Stuart Mill state that the objective of freedom of speech was "truth, progress and accountability", which is something Islam is in complete agreement with.

Tell me, where is there "truth" or "progress" in insulting people? In drawing offensive cartoons of the Prophet(pbuh)? This is nothing but abusing it to cause tensions between people.

Hamza Tzortiz recently wrote something on his facebook, which reflects what I said above.

Yesterday was a profound experience for many reasons. Firstly, after the early afternoon debate with Michael Nugent, I sat down with him and had a friendly post-debate chat. What I realised was that he was a friendly, down to earth, and sensitive man. It goes to show that when you truly seek dialogue, you can connect with other people in ways that you had never thought. I even found out that he started reading about Islamic law and its development, and his initial insights were nuanced. Secondly, a Canadian student, who is an atheist, sat down with us and asked us a bunch of questions concerning Islamic law, morality, ethics and society. We engaged with him, demystifying various issues and clarifying misconceptions. Following this he made an interesting comment, he said that if people like us were to take over Syria and apply the principles and values we were speaking about, he would consider it better than the USA, and he would even think of migrating. These experiences just go to show that to sit down calmly, while intending to engage and understand one another, and at the same time not compromising our ideas and values, facilitates the changing of hearts and minds. Simply put: We Muslims must connect with other human beings and articulate a positive case for our beliefs, in a sincere and frank manner!

And just so you know, another Saudi blogger sent more insulting messages as a tweet.

This is why the original guy is likely to get some kind of punishment. Because if he doesn't, the sheep will start up again.

[ScimitarXEdge]

then I may ask, why wasn't Hind put to death?

[Al Hanif]

Freedom of Speech goes to Hell.

This ugly subhuman should be beheaded in public place.


To answer this question :

My question, are muslims even the so called rational/intelligent people living here in the west actually hidden extremist/radical people?

More likely than you think.

[ScimitarXEdge]

No people like you should be beheaded in a public place. People like this guy should be talked to and understood.

[ScimitarXEdge]

The Prophet Muhammad (saw) albeit divinely chosen to convey Allah(swt)'s message was JUST a man, a simple human being who received something special. But being that it is Allah(swt) who chose him, Allah could have chosen anybody else, including a woman. Prophet Muhammad (saw) by himself is no different than any of us, he is our equal our brother, he has flaws and mistakes and there are things he did I dislike and think were absurd, and others I commend.



What will you do about me saying this?

[Al Hanif]

The Prophet Muhammad (saw) albeit divinely chosen to convey Allah(swt)'s message was JUST a man, a simple human being who received something special. But being that it is Allah(swt) who chose him, Allah could have chosen anybody else, including a woman. Prophet Muhammad (saw) by himself is no different than any of us, he is our equal our brother, he has flaws and mistakes and there are things he did I dislike and think were absurd, and others I commend.



What will you do about me saying this?

Astarghfirhullah. I agree only until "he has flaws and mistakes". The end is false, he has only human flaws, but he is a perfect human being, just like angels are perfect being angels, they are perfect as creatures. Allah SWT is perfect as a god, as a creator. This is not comparable. And Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did nothing absurd.

[ScimitarXEdge]

then why do you want this guy dead, he more or less said the same thing that I did.

[Al Hanif]

then why do you want this guy dead, he more or less said the same thing that I did.

No, I was quick to answer. I read only the first part and clicked quickly because someone called me. I agree only with the first part. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was only a man but he did nothing absurd, he was created to show the example for mankind.