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  • #46
    ****mitar is trying to make up for the last two weeks of banishment by peppering with his recycled arguments...


    same old drama...welcome back buddy.

    We didn't miss you!


    LOL


    Scimitar....

    You still didn't answer my question directly.


    Be a man ...and stop skirting around like some panzie...


    Do you believe that Jesus peace be upon him turned clay models into living birds by the Will of Allah?


    YES or NO?!


    Stop huffing and puffing so much boy!

    And just give a straight answer for once in your life!


    Let's also wait for Toromana's response...

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
      What do you want to call it then?

      The Gebra instead of Algebra? The Cohol instead of Al cohol?



      Name one "problem solving approach" inspired by evolution in Medicine and biology!

      Just one...
      "In computer science, evolutionary computation is a subfield of artificial intelligence (more particularly computational intelligence) that involves combinatorial optimization problems.....

      The use of Darwinian principles for automated problem solving originated in the fifties. It was not until the sixties that three distinct interpretations of this idea started to be developed in three different places.
      Evolutionary programming was introduced by Lawrence J. Fogel in the USA, while John Henry Holland called his method a genetic algorithm. In GermanyIngo Rechenberg and Hans-Paul Schwefel introduced evolution strategies. These areas developed separately for about 15 years. From the early nineties on they are unified as different representatives (“dialects”) of one technology, called evolutionary computing. Also in the early nineties, a fourth stream following the general ideas had emerged – genetic programming. Since the 1990s, evolutionary computation has largely become swarm-based computation, and nature-inspired algorithms are becoming an increasingly significant part...."


      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_computation



      http://cec2007.nus.edu.sg/
      Last edited by Toramana; 11-28-2011, 06:46 PM.

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      • #48
        same ole drama? Did you say this to be ridiculously ironic? or has your brain really deteriorated to the point that you're completely unaware of your own histrionic behavior? Are you reading the drivel that's in your own posts? They read like you're having nervous twitches and seizures from behind the the screen. You're not even writing on the same line anymore, but just random scattered lines of angst and inner turmoil vomited into text.

        And one more thing, stop derailing threads with divergent subjects, it's irrational

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
          Name one "problem solving approach" inspired by evolution in Medicine and biology!
          I am still waiting.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            Well then the only reasonable explanation is that out of some need for self affirmation you're projecting this perception of hostility out of feelings of inferiority and insecurity in some attempt to feel vindicated and redeemed.

            Calling, your assertions demonstrations of ignorance is merely stating what it is; you have a shallow and novice understanding of things and make faulty conclusions and errors because you haven't been learned at the presence of other possibilities which would illicit similar or the same outcomes. That's all. If anything it's you projecting hostility to feel validated.
            You are right, there are many other possibilities..therefore what you have proposed is pure ignorance on your side.

            Here...this will calm you down..old man.

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            • #51
              what was this thread about, again?
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #52
                Below are computational methodologies directly based on (inspired by ) Darwin's Evolutionary Theory (Selection plays a major part in these)---
                • Ant colony optimization
                • Artificial ecology
                • Artificial immune systems
                • Artificial life
                • Autonomous mental & behaviour development
                • Bioengineering
                • Bioinformatics & computational biology
                • Classifier systems
                • Coevolution & collective behaviour
                • Cognitive systems & applications
                • Combinatorial & numerical optimization
                • Computational intelligence in games
                • Computer vision
                • Concurrent collaboration
                • Constraint & uncertainty handling
                • Cultural algorithms
                • Developmental systems
                • Differential evolution
                • Distributed evolutionary computation
                • Dynamic & uncertain environments
                • Emerging areas
                • Estimation of Distribution Algorithms
                • Evolutionary data mining
                • Evolutionary design
                • Evolutionary games
                • Evolutionary intelligent agents
                • Evolutionary learning systems
                • Evolutionary robotics

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                  "In computer science, evolutionary computation is a subfield of artificial intelligence (more particularly computational intelligence) that involves combinatorial optimization problems.....

                  The use of Darwinian principles for automated problem solving originated in the fifties. It was not until the sixties that three distinct interpretations of this idea started to be developed in three different places.
                  Evolutionary programming was introduced by Lawrence J. Fogel in the USA, while John Henry Holland called his method a genetic algorithm. In GermanyIngo Rechenberg and Hans-Paul Schwefel introduced evolution strategies. These areas developed separately for about 15 years. From the early nineties on they are unified as different representatives (“dialects”) of one technology, called evolutionary computing. Also in the early nineties, a fourth stream following the general ideas had emerged – genetic programming. Since the 1990s, evolutionary computation has largely become swarm-based computation, and nature-inspired algorithms are becoming an increasingly significant part...."


                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_computation
                  http://www.wcci2010.org/
                  http://www.cec-2009.org/
                  http://www2.mae.cuhk.edu.hk/~wcci2008/
                  http://cec2007.nus.edu.sg/

                  What's the matter Toromana?

                  You can't read?

                  I did say "medicine and biology" ...not computation...

                  if it were like that Darwinism also inspired Marxism and Communism and even capitalism... so should we feel indebted to it for all the misery they have spun?


                  This thread was in regards to Medical Students....

                  And I stated that evolution has not benefited medicine or biology...


                  You are trying to move the discussion into computers because that is your expertise...so really...you are just baring your own ignorance.

                  When you are ready to discuss biology...then post something here. Otherwise...no drama please. We already have princess scimitar and her husband ozzy doing enough of that.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Jamaludeen View Post
                    You are right, there are many other possibilities..therefore what you have proposed is pure ignorance on your side.

                    Here...this will calm you down..old man.


                    I didn't say every situation has many possibilities but the prior situation does; in the situation you illicited your case was only one reasonable possibility when the variables were considered ., and that's lack of knowledge and emotional appeals.there were different sets of variables in the previous context

                    I hope that clarifies things.

                    By the way "chill pill" very White Washed and mentally colonized of you. Anything is better than that.
                    Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 11-28-2011, 07:27 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
                      I am still waiting.
                      Evolutionary medicine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                      Evolutionary medicine or Darwinian medicine is the application of modern evolutionary theory to understanding health and disease. It provides a complementary scientific approach to the present mechanistic explanations that dominate medical science, and particularly modern medical education. Researchers in the field of evolutionary medicine have suggested that evolutionary biology should not simply be an optional topic in medical school, but instead should be taught as one of the basic medical sciences.[1]
                      Such adaptations concern:
                      The evolution of pathogens in terms of their virulence, resistance to antibiotics, and subversion of an individual’s immune system.
                      The processes, constraints and trade-offs of human evolution.
                      The evolved responses that enable individuals to protect, heal and recuperate themselves from infections and injuries such as immunity, fever, and sickness behavior, and the processes that regulate their deployment to maximize fitness.
                      How past adaptation of early humans to their ancestral environment now affects contemporary humans with their different diet, life expectancy, degree of physical exercise, and hygiene.

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                      • #56
                        It's funny how these morons keep copy pasting from wikipedia but still fail to present an "Example"...

                        ok so wikipedia says that there are benefits ...but what are those benefits?

                        Have we been able to cure a disease because of the theory of evolution? No!

                        Have we been able to design better treatments and preventions because of the theory of evolution? No.

                        Just some mythical beliefs that keep passing around...

                        This is pathetic.

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                        • #57
                          Monkeys or apes?

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                          • #58
                            The Cure Cancer Project: Tumor Cell Evolution

                            interesting study on how the Theory of Evolution is being used to help develop a cure for cancer.

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                            • #59
                              Well when it does develop a cure ..then we can talk...

                              But I am pretty sure it will turn fruitless ...because the theory is debunked.


                              You keep running around like a headless chicken...

                              I simply want to know why you think medical students need to study evolution...what would benefit them from it?


                              How does a computational analysis and a unfinished hypothetical study benefit one who has cancer right now?

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                              • #60
                                hahahhahahahhahaha ....fruitless yet if you read the studies it's showing evidence of progress.

                                The only people who are in denial are you and your brainwashed crew of morons. i think the research presented demonstrates more than adequately how crucial learning evolution really is.

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