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  • #91
    Originally posted by faye View Post
    christianity gave man dominance over nature and i don't know that it has any environmentally firendly teachings. it was christian civilisations that did most of the damage, toramana.
    I don't know because I don't have any knowledge of Christianity...but one thing that I know is that, people in the West are generally more sensitive to the preservation of environment---that is because of reason and scientific know-how....(not dogma)...

    I don't subscribe to the pacifistic philosophy like Bhudism i.e. be part of nature not be apart from nature.

    In my opinion taking from nature is inevitability but at the same time we have the responsibility to give to nature --- reciprocally...
    We should be judicious in the expoitation of nature and should recreate in nature what we have taken from it ...
    Last edited by Toramana; 08-06-2011, 10:57 PM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Toramana View Post
      I don't know because I don't have any knowledge of Christianity...but one thing that I know is that, people in the West are generally more sensitive to the preservation of environment---that is because of reason and scientific know-how....(not dogma)...

      I don't subscribe to the pacifistic philosophy like Bhudism i.e. be part of nature not be apart from nature.

      In my opinion taking from nature is inevitability what we need but at the same time we have the responsibility to give to nature --- reciprocally...
      We should be judicious in the expoitation of nature and should recreate in nature what we have taken it from...

      that's a pure lie

      here is a nuclear waste dump in Western countries ......I guess this is what you mean by sensitive?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
        exactly ....American and European companies go all over the global environment and do ecological harm to maintain profits ..

        and australian. i would like australia to bring in laws to punish ozzie companies that do damage to overseas environments.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
          This is about Nature in general ....that's why it says "the Nature that humans were fashioned in"

          Islam is comprehensive ...furthermore supplemental information shows that it pertains to all aspects of nature.

          Volume 3, Book 39, Number 513:

          Narrated Anas bin Malik:

          Allah's Apostle said, "There is none amongst the Muslims who plants a tree or sows seeds, and then a bird, or a person or an animal eats from it, but is regarded as a charitable gift for him.

          The Prophet (sala Allahu ‘Alihi wa Salaam) said, "If an individual has an opportunity to plant a tree, even if he knows the Day of Judgment is imminent, let him plant the tree."

          simply put,you're wrong.
          There is no point in trying to convince lost sheeps in wolve's clothing. Simply put, Toramana is an agent.

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          • #95
            he went silent and sissyed out of his own thread like the house slave pansy he always was. which tells me he has conceded.

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            • #96
              lets say this is true, which there is no evidence besides russian officials who's words are about as trustworthy as a jew's, an anti islamic blog, and a video of an over emotional muslim that is inflating numbers in order to drive his point home. these "ethnic muslims" who leave their religion merely because of islams bad pr were not muslims to begin with. if they were muslims, then so are 99% of all people in turkey according to official stats. we all know thats bull****.

              the truth is not a popularity contest. give me 1 true believer over a million fakes who take their religion as a joke and an afterthought.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #97
                Whether Muslim population is increasing or decreasing is not much important. The conversion of any nation has least to do with their welfare, happiness or glory.

                The ones who are already muslims are antagonistic towards other muslim nations and autocratic towards their own juntas.

                The muslim nations have not contributed much to the welfare of humanity and none of them have to offer any solution to the woes of humanity too except some non realistic hopes which contradict their individual and collective national characters. Hence these so called muslim nations are more likely to wither away from the surface of earth.

                No Muslim country is going to stand by you just on the basis of being a fellow muslim nation. Every country has got its own national interests which in turn are just the vested interests of her elite class.
                Pir Rokhan

                http://Pashtoonkhwa.blogspot.com

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                  There are many whites and hindos converting to islam,why do,nt you post that.?
                  toramana are you their preacher?
                  we respect all religion but you will not find a single pashtun christain.That dream of yours will go to hell.
                  who care about hazras ,they are already out of touch with islam.
                  The reason for them is economical.Once they enter the west that will change again.
                  The example of ,,nigeria,,is not wrong but then again the westren missioniries bribe them to chage the religion.
                  Many japanees and thai converted to islam.
                  islam is great religion and few fake videos will not cut their numbers.
                  In fact it is growing.There is problem with our society but that is cultural issue not an islamic one.
                  pashtun gerat is not that cheap.
                  your new country wasted billions of dollars to spread extremism but day by day failing.
                  The world is changing and now it is the asain turn.your new country and their allies in the euros are part of past.
                  I wonder soon you will start preaching hindoism or may be budism,who knows.
                  zaan ta jwand paida ka,pukhtana sa hazara yaa da aprekai nadi chi mazab ba pragdi aw haga hum da angreez da damtub dapara.
                  chi pa khata pakhtun vey aw pukhtania mermani aw plaar zegawali vey haga da dollaro dpara mazab na pragdi.
                  Zabardasta khabera dey wekrela

                  da nor asey aprey daprey wey

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                    graveyard I was actually searching for the number of people converting to Islam that I stumbled upon the news in the first post (2 millions Muslims converting to Christianity). At first, I tried avoid it and read only the news of my interest (conversions to Islam). Later, the curiosity of a researcher forced me to read it. Then I tried to verify it through google search and found other news about Muslims convertion to Christianity.
                    why were you searching for how many people converting to Islam?
                    since christians are allowd to lie to spread their religion than non of your sources can be trusted.

                    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                    This is not really the question of ghairath and baigharatha. It is a blunder shutting our eyes to the reality. Instead of living in denial, we have to think deeply about the causes i.e., why the dis-illusionment....why has Muslims conversion to Christianity spurred in the last 2-3 decades? The causes have to be found and something has to be done about it. I think the reason is the failure of our societies.
                    why do you want to think deeply,i thought you despised Islam and called it arab imperialsm?

                    you want reality
                    those people who covert to christianity has nothign to do with anything spiritual,it is either for a pasport,so they can drink alcohol,so they dont have to wear headscard and wear mini,so they can **** around with anyone they please.

                    first of all christianity as Esa(as) taught was manipulated in the early times.These people actually convert to being non believers something such as you.
                    you want to call yourself a muslim but yet are against everything Islamic.

                    Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                    And when I posted the Al-Jazeera interview of Shiekh Tankani, I didn't believe him entirely. I thought, he is exaggerating. Sometimes religious leaders do that to instill fear in their religious followers to rally them behind themselves. But then I found that it may be true e.g., Nigerai in 1953 had 70% Muslim population and 24% Christians but that has changed and now the population proportions are 52% Muslims and 48% Christians. Below are some videos to corroborate that.
                    well in Africa they use food and money to convert people.
                    since Africa is the most deprived continent and people are in a dire situation.
                    let me give you an example : there was this cocain addict who was helped by these christians (to get his blood cleaned)but he had to convert to christianity after that.


                    ‪Evangelism in Nigeria - Reinhard Bonnke‬‏ - YouTube

                    52 millions Christianized in Nigeria, 100 millions more to
                    they are not christianised,they have been de islamised as you wish Pukhtunkhwa and Afghanistan was.
                    ‪Waves of Salvation - Reinhard Bonnke‬‏ - YouTube
                    ‪On Target for 100 Million - Reinhard Bonnke‬‏ - YouTube

                    India

                    ‪Reinhard Bonnke - Holy Spirit - Sermon in India Part 7‬‏ - YouTube

                    Middle East (watch from 3:04)...The man talking about the dream sounds to me having a mullah (of Christianity) mentality.

                    these videos are fake and already exposed,i dont know why you are being desperate to post these videos.

                    ‪Muslims converting to Christ!! The Untold story~Acts 2:17‬‏ - YouTube[/QUOTE]

                    you call yourself Pukhtun and yet you are being anti 99% Pukhtane

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                    • christians are full crap anyway, they think all the prophets were white and jesus was white, blonde and had blue eyes lol.
                      its just some white people religion.

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                      • How many people on this forum have converted to christianity or another religion?

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                        • well Toramana seems to have converted to Christianity

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                          • So Toramana believes that God have a Son, lol!
                            stupid person
                            hay Toramana change your avater aswell now.

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