Stoning to Death

[faye]

yes, it's a quaint 'stone' age society. why change it? teach your kids to be good rock throwers.
good to see the 'independence' of the young women, that get passed around like a sack of potatoes, khushal.

[AFG21]

It only seems to be against moral standards to societies that lack moral standards; which is a contradiction therefore this claim is fraudulent.

maybe it's beyond you because you've become a farangay.

Wuhahaha and that is saying some one who have a naked picture of a man as his avatar, or is it your own picture, LOL

Killing peopel is alway immoral but dumb and stupid peopel like you don't understand that, and saing my cliam is fraudulnet your whole excinstence is fraudulent

[ScimitarXEdge]

Wuhahaha and that is saying some one who have a naked picture of a man as his avatar, or is it your own picture, LOL

Killing peopel is alway immoral but dumb and stupid peopel like you don't understand that, and saing my cliam is fraudulnet your whole excinstence is fraudulent

No it's not always immoral; if it was always immoral, there would be no such thing as armies or police could not use lethal force when necessary. This is true even within farangayan societies which you deem "modernized". It's just we take the standards of what's a capital offense much further, and I believe we're better for doing so.

[ScimitarXEdge]

yes, it's a quaint 'stone' age society. why change it? teach your kids to be good rock throwers.
good to see the 'independence' of the young women, that get passed around like a sack of potatoes, khushal.

No better example of women being passed around like a potato sack than what happens predominantly in Farangay society.

Or worse yet, that's more like being passed around like a rag where everyone wipes their "snot" in and then being duped and told "no honey ...that's being independent....you don't want to be cooped up and bound down by retaining your self respect"

IN reality, what we do is free people from all the artificial distractions and impulses that manipulate ones mind that's predominant in your harlot culture. In truth we're the true liberators.

[khushal]

yes, it's a quaint 'stone' age society. why change it? teach your kids to be good rock throwers.
good to see the 'independence' of the young women, that get passed around like a sack of potatoes, khushal.

You don't get it, you don't understand. You are better serving humanity if you go fight for women rights that are in the porn industry and other industries who get passed around and used like toilet paper.

If it is going to change, then let it naturally change. It should not be nor will it be changed by force. That strategy is counter productive just like Mathew Hoh says in the video at 7:58. Mathew Hoh understands Pashtunwali more than most of the Pashtuns on this forum.
YouTube - ‪frontline kill capture pt 3‬‏

[khushal]

I personally wouldn't like to say much about homosexuality because I am still unsure whether it's a born case with people, or a developed one? If they are born with it and it's considered a disease then we should fight against it, not kill it. And if considered normal then I have to think about Islam's stand on it.

Look at what Shayistas says here. Even she as a Muslim who grew up in the west is questioning the immorality of homosexuality. She is confused if it is considered normal or not. People are manipulated and dont even know it.

[ScimitarXEdge]

homosexuality is probably caused by natural factors, but then this is a congenital defect and should be treated. It is definitely an abnormality.

[khushal]

Congenital defect? how do you explain identical twins with the same genes and one being a homosexual and the other being straight.

[ScimitarXEdge]

probably due to gene expression, even with "identical twins" gene expressions aren't always 100% exact.

[khushal]

Why is homosexuality higher in prisons with no females present than the general population. Why has lesbianism increased between women as men have encouraged it lately in western society. Is that also due to gene expression or congenetal?

The rise of mid life lesbianism
The rise of mid-life lesbians - Times Online

[Badlun]

yes, it's a quaint 'stone' age society. why change it? teach your kids to be good rock throwers.
good to see the 'independence' of the young women, that get passed around like a sack of potatoes, khushal.

We are still in the stone age. We are living in stones, eating stones, throwing stones and killing by stones. Our hearts are made of stones thats why justifying such inhuman punishments by stones.

The problem is that we make Islam also a sharia and not only a religion. Another problem is false and fabricated hadith which recommend killing by stoning or rajm. A prophet cant utter such harsh words and cant recommend killing some one by stoning or lapidation. Either he is not a prophet or what is attributed to him is false.

Pashtunwali if consider women only a property is also abominable. The solution is modern education, democracy and exposure to modern societies. Pashtuns in London, New York, Ottawa, Sidney, Rome, Madrid, Tokyo and even in Delhi or Istanbul can never think of killing some one by stoning. Pashtunwali must go hand in hand with the changes the new age introduces.

[Badlun]

Why is homosexuality higher in prisons with no females present than the general population. Why has lesbianism increased between women as men have encouraged it lately in western society. Is that also due to gene expression or congenetal?

The rise of mid life lesbianism
The rise of mid-life lesbians - Times Online

My personal observation of Pashtun society is that Homosexuality is dominant in areas where Women are completely segregated from men like in Bannu or kandahar. You wont find homosexuality in cities like Peshawar or Kabul that much where you have some opportunities of interaction with women in one form or another.

However you will find biological homosexuality every where as it is a born behaviour or trait and one cant help avoiding it. In such cases its not a crime or sin but a natural tendency and must be accepted by society.

Another form of same sex relation in Pashtun society is falling in love with a boy by a boy or with a girl by a girl but with out out sexual relations. This is platonic love and the couple just love each other , move around together like a normal couple before marriage or commencement of sexual interaction. This is almost totally because of segregation of male and female in Pashtun society.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Why is homosexuality higher in prisons with no females present than the general population. Why has lesbianism increased between women as men have encouraged it lately in western society. Is that also due to gene expression or congenetal?

The rise of mid life lesbianism
The rise of mid-life lesbians - Times Online

I think there's a distinction between homosexuality and homosexual behavior; they may seem virtually correspondent but they are some disjoint aspects. Many males try to feminize other males to implicate a role of domination and also cater to their real desire, that of a woman. Even though they may engage in homosexual behavior the actual mental aspect of yearning is towards female/feminine characteristics. I think in the case of Afghanistan the reason bacha bazi has a niche is not because these men are truly gay. You rarely if ever hear about a man going after another grown up bearded man, but they see that a small boy has all the "soft delicate" aspects of a woman without the potentially (perceived) negative consequences.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Stone Age is merely a culturally mythologized mnemonic created by Theatrical Presentation. like movies, tv and other sorts of media. it's just brainwashing.

I reside in America and I nothing intrinsically wrong with using capital penalties. Education is not to adopt whats modern, It's to Adopt What's True and Valid; and in this sense the practice supercedes all modernized notions regardless of what they claim to have attained.

The reasons why people who may reside in New York, London and Ottawa may not implement the practice has more to do with legal or social repercussions of doing it. That's why I reside in a Farangay culture, so that I can use the resources I have available to one day Liberate our planet from their Clutches and control so they can no longer interfere with the proper way of living life.

[khushal]

We are still in the stone age. We are living in stones, eating stones, throwing stones and killing by stones. Our hearts are made of stones thats why justifying such inhuman punishments by stones.

The problem is that we make Islam also a sharia and not only a religion. Another problem is false and fabricated hadith which recommend killing by stoning or rajm. A prophet cant utter such harsh words and cant recommend killing some one by stoning or lapidation. Either he is not a prophet or what is attributed to him is false.

Pashtunwali if consider women only a property is also abominable. The solution is modern education, democracy and exposure to modern societies. Pashtuns in London, New York, Ottawa, Sidney, Rome, Madrid, Tokyo and even in Delhi or Istanbul can never think of killing some one by stoning. Pashtunwali must go hand in hand with the changes the new age introduces.

Yes but it is OK to kill thousands from half the world away by pressing a button as long as they dont see the faces of the people they are killing and the bloodshed that is left afterwards. Are you trying to say that there is a civilized way of killing and then there is an uncivilized way of killing.