Stoning to Death

[ScimitarXEdge]

haha theatrics? remember it is you who interjected with a personal comment not I. I just mocked you for being a Subway employee.

you can dish it but can't take it? aaah I see...you're more of a wimpasaurus than I had once believed. impressive.

[Alchemist]

you said subway like 20 times already kid ...

I think everyone is clear on that now ...


let it go ... kid...maybe one day you'll own something too .. maybe a car or a house...one day.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Subway ...Eat Fresh

wait hold on dude ....are you Jared?

[Alchemist]

lol "shalay goy morgh"


see what I am talking about?

pathetic.


why do you care so much that I am a franchisee? Would u have been happier if I was still poor and in school for another 10 years like you? What's the big joke? I really don't see how you think this is funny... "I mock you for being a subway employee"...and I mocked you how?

Get your fat ass of the chair bro ... you spend too much time on the internet...go do something REAL with your life.

[ScimitarXEdge]

calm down Jared, I won't expose your real identity

[khushal]

yoeven in this thread ur own the wrong side "forced marriage is acceptable"? whatever! no point arguing with you ....

From what I understand is he is saying that forced marriages are more in tune with nature than adultery. Pashtuns are not the only ones that practiced or practice forced marriages. This practice happened all over the world. So one should look at how this practice came to be, how and why it evolved.


Forced marriage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The practice of forced marriage was quite common amongst the upper classes in Europe until the 20th century, and is still practiced in parts of South Asia, East Asia, the Middle East, and Africa. Forced marriages are generally made because of family pride, the wishes of the parents, or social obligation. A shotgun wedding is a form of forced marriage occasioned by an unplanned pregnancy. Some religions and cultures consider it a moral imperative to marry in such a situation, based on reasoning that premarital sex is sinful.[3] The phrase is an American colloquialism, though it is also used in other parts of the world. It is based on a hyperbolic scenario in which the pregnant female's father resorts to coercion (such as threatening with a shotgun) to ensure that the male partner who caused the female's pregnancy goes through with it, sometimes even following the man to the altar to prevent his escape. The use of violent coercion to marry is no longer legal in the United States, although many anecdotal stories and folk songs record instances of such intimidation in the 18th and 19th centuries. Purposes of the wedding include recourse from the male for the act of impregnation and to ensure that the child is raised by both parents as well as to ensure that the woman has material means of support. In some cases, a major objective was the restoring of social honor to the mother. The practice is also a method of preventing the birth of illegitimate children or, if the marriage occurs early enough, to conceal that conception occurred before marriage.
Shotgun weddings have become less common as the stigma associated with out-of-wedlock births has gradually faded and the number of such births has increased; the increasing availability of birth control and abortion, as well as material support to unwed mothers such as welfare has also reduced the perceived need for such measures.


In Japan, the slang term 出来ちゃった結婚 Dekichatta kekkon (a marriage necessitated by an unplanned pregnancy) emerged in the late 1990s with a very similar meaning, although the etymology of the term in Japanese does not imply the same threat of physical violence that the English idiom "shotgun marriage" does. The term dekichatta kekkon can be loosely translated as an "oops marriage" or an "it's-already-happened-marriage". Namie Amuro is credited with beginning a trend of marrying and having children fairly young, at ages 19 or 20. The practice continued to be highly publicized and occurred throughout the late 1990s and first decade of the 21st century. Notable celebrities with shotgun marriages include Nozomi Tsuji and Anna Tsuchiya. Additionally, there is a trend of shotgun marriages among older Japanese for a variety of reasons, including: lack of motivation, limited education received, and socio-economical factors. Older examples include Leah Dizon and Miyavi.[4][5]
In China, the term 奉子成婚 (Pinyin: Fèngzǐchénghūn) (literally, "Married by the child") means that the couple married because the woman conceived the child of the man outside of marriage. Similar to American shotgun marriages in parental pressure for the pair to marry, it is becoming increasingly popular for China's youngest generation. However, in the same age group, there is also objection and criticism to such a practice.

[Zahed]

Scimitar, ofcourse u wont be offended by being called by ur true ID, thats like saying its an offence to call a pig, pig. unlike u I'm not spitting at the society I live in. in this society security,defence,privacy,safety is 100% guaranteed. to avoid abortions 'n pregancies 'n diseases while having sex u got pills,condoms,conceptions etc. to avoid an abusive relationship u got advisors to go to. to avoid a social disorder u got the police,law, justice etc. ALL of which absent 'n lacking in Muslim countries. just 'cuz U find premarital sex disturbing doesnt it is disturbing or a disorder. a disorder is killing someone for something he hasnt even done, disorder is for names sake destroying ur childrens lives, disorder is supporting abuse over justice, disorder is cleaning up a man's crimes by calling his wife who's been abused by him stupid, disorder is in ur Arab blood which hasnt spared any country in mid east. just 'cuz u happen to believe in an imaginary God 'n imaginary religion doesnt mean none's allowed to used a bit more sense. look where ur imaginations 've took u to today, look at these IMMORAL countries how far they 've become 'n that also to the extend mentally disodered fanatics like urself would rather live here than in ur own mentally disturbed society. dont give me ur bullshet of logics, I dont even want to understand how the brain of insecure 'n impotent creature known as a human works. save it

[Zahed]

Scimitar, ofcourse u wont be offended by being called by ur true ID, thats like saying its an offence to call a pig, pig. unlike u I'm not spitting at the society I live in. in this society security,defence,privacy,safety is 100% guaranteed. to avoid abortions 'n pregancies 'n diseases while having sex u got pills,condoms,conceptions etc. to avoid an abusive relationship u got advisors to go to. to avoid a social disorder u got the police,law, justice etc. ALL of which absent 'n lacking in Muslim countries. just 'cuz U find premarital sex disturbing doesnt it is disturbing or a disorder. a disorder is killing someone for something he hasnt even done, disorder is for names sake destroying ur childrens lives, disorder is supporting abuse over justice, disorder is cleaning up a man's crimes by calling his wife who's been abused by him stupid, disorder is in ur Arab blood which hasnt spared any country in mid east. just 'cuz u happen to believe in an imaginary God 'n imaginary religion doesnt mean none's allowed to used a bit more sense. look where ur imaginations 've took u to today, look at these IMMORAL countries how far they 've become 'n that also to the extend mentally disodered fanatics like urself would rather live here than in ur own mentally disturbed society. dont give me ur bullshet of logics, I dont even want to understand how the brain of insecure 'n impotent creature known as a human works. save it Khushal, I already a education 'n I 've spent my education rather than wasted like u 'n worshippers of Pashtunwali. barbarity is associated with everything that applies in Pashtunwali 'n ur shariah 'n for barbarians there's nothing barbaric about either of them. Pashtuns arent the only ones who 've defended their lands nor only ones being occupied 'n it has got nothing to do with Pashtunwali but rather independence which EVERY nation in the world has fought for, not just u Pashtuns.

[khushal]

. save it Khushal, I already a education 'n I 've spent my education rather than wasted like u 'n worshippers of Pashtunwali. barbarity is associated with everything that applies in Pashtunwali 'n ur shariah 'n for barbarians there's nothing barbaric about either of them. Pashtuns arent the only ones who 've defended their lands nor only ones being occupied 'n it has got nothing to do with Pashtunwali but rather independence which EVERY nation in the world has fought for, not just u Pashtuns.

hahaha, instead of barking like a dog, why don't you demonstrate how educated you are. So far you have accomplished nothing but have removed all doubt about how stupid and uneducated you are.

Dushanbe Lenin says "first bow to me and I will show you independence"

he is pointing at you Zahed.

[Haris]

^LOL Dushanbe Lenin returns...

love it

[khushal]

well if you really want to get technical there's no concrete evidence of "Pakhtuns" before the 9th century.
l

There has been mentions of Pashtuns by the historian Herodotus as early as the 1st millennium BC living in Eastern Afghanistan. The HIstorian Rigveda mentions Pashtuns living there at the same time frame. Another Historian Strabo mentions Arianic Tribes living west of the Indus 64 BC.

I don't have to be really; I'm not even sure God exists to be honest; I mean, I am intellectually convinced that there is a God, but that isn't absolute on account of the vastness of such a concept. I'm however very much in admiration of Islam and Pakhtunwali, their mathematical logic in how it governs over society appeals to me intensely there's more merit in them than any other ideological system I have ever encountered. So I give it my endorsement on that grounds.
I follow things from a more analytical pattern, we are known as the Mu'ataziliyeen. l

Do the Mu'tazilyeen have a personal choice of believing in God?

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Zahed

Well that's pretty paradoxical of you to say because if you ever observe how Pigs behave ...they're generally degenerates, without any moral standards, much like your Farangay Masters are. They'll even bury their nose in feces and enjoy it. But you're right, I dont see any offense in being called Arab since I view cultures which have some sense of moral order superior and much more worthy of admiration than those that don't; which is the farangay culture you idealize. Since Arabs and Pashtuns share so much overlap; its only reasonable.

Your lack of willingness to condemn or oppose or speak against a culture/society/environment you reside in is more to do with Being scared and cowardice than any sense of honor or credibility. It doesnt reflect negatively on those who are bold enough to say the truth that you're too weakminded to do the same. Your labels and accusations are just scapegoats you use to feel better about being a slave of degeneracy.Your allusions to how these corrupt cultures handle moral degeneracy is not a testimony to their sense of justice; but their cowardice in their way of life to avoid and escape responsibility; iinstead of living by Moral Standards they look for ways to avoid it. What better example of PIGS than that? That's piggish behavior in its fullest form. and you praise it. You were just.

Apparently you have no understanding of what denotes and characterizes a disorder. A Disorder is something that interferes or corrupts the Normative faculties and drives of our ecosystem; this is developed through Nature. It is all that you endorse which contradict the Natural faculties and functions of human activity, whether its deviant sexual behavior predominantly sanctioned in farangayan societies or other things. It all contradicts how nature developed us and interferes with our normal functions.

Your Farangayan culture protects corruption; which is a contradiction to Justice; and therefore an Injustice; Your mind has become so deluded/warped by these artificial conditions that you've become deluded you have started to hallucinate that injustice is justice and real justice is injustice; but this is just the mental disease they have infected you with. If you want to see Imaginary, there's no better example than that.Your rhetoric is inconsequential, the reality of nature confirms the principles of Islam and Pashtunwali; especially in comparison to your slavery to farangayan is concerned.

Their immoral cultures haven't come "this far" because of their imagination; but because of crooked/nefarious agenda which has subjugated the global environment to their exploitation; so people are only come to their society because their corruption has manufactured these circumstances; not because they like the farangay culture more than their own. Ultimately our goal is to use our knowledge to liberate the planet from their degenerate culture so that the our planet can be purified Right now we have to be patient and develop our abilities to accomplish this.And this is proof why your diversions about Arabs are just attempts to confuse people; because Arabs have never disturbed or interrupted the natural balance of the global environment. Even the Ummayads, tyhe worst of Arabs never did this; but Farangayan have. Clearly your motives for saying that is to create a smokescreen to legitimize being a slave of farangayan by diverting blame to Arabs.

If you were really educated you'd know this already; I always explained it dozens of times in this thread; but you're so jahil and blind you refuse to see the Truth. Even you admit that you refuse to listen to Logic so you can keep following your ignorance. Education is not to follow what is modern, but to follow the truth; Whatever you think of as education are fabrications and lies; and therefore not education at all; but a tactic to confuse you and keep you ignorant.

[ScimitarXEdge]

There has been mentions of Pashtuns by the historian Herodotus as early as the 1st millennium BC living in Eastern Afghanistan. The HIstorian Rigveda mentions Pashtuns living there at the same time frame. Another Historian Strabo mentions Arianic Tribes living west of the Indus 64 BC.



Do the Mu'tazilyeen have a personal choice of believing in God?

Well, you have to be intellectually convinced of God's existence to be a "true believer" in Mu'atzilah, which means that you can't just merely believe in it because that is social convention. However since it is speculative; in many ways, full certainty might not be achievable, some Mu'taziliyeen like myself view God as more of a concept of the Order of Life and Existence, than an actual Being; a state of Consciousness rather than a discrete identity. None the less the outcome is the same, there is a certain set of events that gave rise to human life and human lifes end up following the order set into form by these events.

I dont think those references you mention are concrete, they're speculative; I think we are probably descended from different groups that came together, but we dont have any solid records. I mean there is absolutely no ancient record of Pashto. The ethnogenesis of many contemporary cultures follows a similar process. Some of us are Scythian, Some of us Hepthalites, some of of Indians, some Turks.

[faye]

why you'd use emotional black mail ...why are YOU AS A FARANGAY, involving yourself in the affairs of another culture? I think there in lies your answer, it's the typical farangay hubris to "civilize" the natives. When establishing a reasonable basis to persuade others fails, emotional black mail , exploiting imagery of despondence will be the last bid.

as for Hitler, he was working from the inside out, I'm working outside in. Yeah sure it would be nice if all your males could be decimated in one sweep, but I'm focusing on more pertinent goals.

good luck kiddo. so you yourself are involved in the culture of america, because..............meglomania? delusions of grandeur?

[emkhan]

This thread gone too long unnecessarily. It needs to be closed.