Evolution contradicts Islam

[طالب]

Last chance to take the offer Alchemist...If you take the offer, I will answer your question, if you don't, I know the answer anyway from post 122.

[Alchemist]

I know the answer anyway from post 122.

thanks for wasting an hour of my time goat.

But the fact remains that you didn't answer any of my questions.
Which means you have something to hide ; )

At least that much has been made clear in the record.

[طالب]

Alchemist believes the Earth is flat

Forget everything else because I am about to tell you what I personally believe about the ayats that says the earth is flat.

Alchemist, you are crazy. From now on you will be treated by me like nothing more than the local village idiot.

There, I said it.

[Alchemist]

Alchemist, you are crazy. From now on you will be treated by me like nothing more than the local village idiot.

There, I said it.

yes

because you are not a muslim.

I did specifically say I believe "the ayats"...so you can go ahead and call me a fool for believing the Qur'an. I don't feel insulted at all. In fact I know I am on the right path when my opposition is someone like you.

Salam.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

Evolution is a well established fact, its been researched and developed. Religonous claims that god created this planet are at times illogical and Fantasy-movie like.

Thats all I really have to say.

[Fahd]

thats kufer !!
how come u cant belive ur god !! god said in quran he made evrything in 6 days !!

any one who support the evolution that Contrary with quran is kufer and wrong !!

some ppl are really stupid and im sure they never did read quran or never understand it !!

[Alchemist]

Evolution is a well established fact, its been researched and developed. Religonous claims that god created this planet are at times illogical and Fantasy-movie like.

Thats all I really have to say.

Another nonbeliever exposed.



It goes to show that evolution does contradict Islam. And that it is used as an alternative to Islam...

See Scimitar - these are your campanions. You can't find a more self deceptive character than an ultranationalist.

Hope you can see the fault in others...if not your own. Mr. Rational

[ScimitarXEdge]

MounTainGoat .....notice that he hides under shields of declaring people heretics and skeeting your question. Because he knows he's going to be laughed at

he's adopted Christian Aqidah of flat earth.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Another nonbeliever exposed.



It goes to show that evolution does contradict Islam. And that it is used as an alternative to Islam...

See Scimitar - these are your campanions. You can't find a more self deceptive character than an ultranationalist.

Hope you can see the fault in others...if not your own. Mr. Rational

ah because a fake Nationalist believes in evolution ....that means a person believing evolution is heretical.

I guess because Taliban murderers and and suicide bombers believe in Islam, Islam is an irrational corrupt religion according to your logic

so many logical fallacies in almost every argument you make.

[ScimitarXEdge]

yes

because you are not a muslim.

I did specifically say I believe "the ayats"...so you can go ahead and call me a fool for believing the Qur'an. I don't feel insulted at all. In fact I know I am on the right path when my opposition is someone like you.

Salam.

No you're believing a tafsir ABOUT the Ayats and by such equating human words to Allah(swt). You're a fool for believing that someone's ta'wil is believing in the Qur'an. As for the ahadith, ahadith are ALSO metaphoric. It's symbolic of levels of reality. It has nothing to do with the Earth's shape.

Plus your own scholars totally shun your view.
read this fatwa on the issue; the verses you think mean the Earth is flat is actually saying the Earth is leveled.

http://en.islamtoday.net/node/667

In any case, verse 30 of Sûrah al-Nâzi`ât – that mentions the verb dahâ in reference to the Earth – is not discussing the shape of the Earth at all. It cannot be used as proof that the Earth is flat or round or egg-shaped. The verse is silent on the matter. And Allah knows best.

The exact shape of the Earth is best known from empirical observations, and not from seeking to deduce its exact shape from the Qur’ân

Read and be enlightened

look to Nature, all the mysteries of the Qur'an are explained through it. Nature is the Ultimate Tafsir.

No power hungry desperate Shaikh needed.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

Muslim world needs to be open to science, if you allow yourselfs to be controlled by Clerics, then the masses will continue to be influenced by illogical thought and theory.

Fahd, Watching young men in very short shorts kicking a ball infront of Drunken supporters is Hypocrasy.

Anyway, Evolution is a established fact, Religion has never proven the existance of Dinosaurs or other species preserved in fossils, Religion is just a claim, it has not proven that a God exists, Religion is a illogical claim that was written by man.

Anyway, there are good aspects to Religion such as Family values but there are also bad aspects to Religion such as Hating others and violence.

Nobody not even Christians nor Muslims have proven that Science is wrong and that their right. Science and Religion does not mix well and never will.

It is not logical for a man to vision Angels(Islam), neither is it logical that a man can live inside a Fish(christianity), or that God chosen a particular number of people(judaism) to be worshipped and respected.

[ScimitarXEdge]

that's not entirely true; the Mu'taziliyeen were Muslim scholars who were open to science and they saw a relationship between natural knowledge and divine knowledge. The idea of visualizing Angels is not in the scope of logic, it's a super natural issue which has no current scientific opinion. Evolution of course is an issue science has a well supported opinion on and those who reject it are not doing so because the Qur'an itself denies evolution; but the dogma of CERTAIN scholars who were not favoring any reference to natural knowledge.


by the way , don't speak about logic; so many Logical Fallacies in your argument it's almost as if you have no understanding of what logic even is.

[طالب]

Because he knows he's going to be laughed at

Yeah I know that's why he didn't want to answer yes or no.

he's adopted Christian Aqidah of flat earth.

Hmm, I'm thinking he might be influenced by Mohammed_Yusuf and his Boko Haram group.

[طالب]

look to Nature, all the mysteries of the Qur'an are explained through it. Nature is the Ultimate Tafsir.

No power hungry desperate Shaikh needed.

As the Christian Bishop Burnet said many hundreds of years ago:

Tis a dangerous thing to engage the authority of scripture in disputes about the natural world, in opposition to reason; lest time, which brings all things to light, should discover that to be evidently false which he had made scripture to assert. . . . We are not to suppose that any truth concerning the natural world can be an enemy to religion; for truth cannot be an enemy to truth, God is not divided against himself.

[Fahd]

Muslim world needs to be open to science, if you allow yourselfs to be controlled by Clerics, then the masses will continue to be influenced by illogical thought and theory.

Fahd, Watching young men in very short shorts kicking a ball infront of Drunken supporters is Hypocrasy.

Anyway, Evolution is a established fact, Religion has never proven the existance of Dinosaurs or other species preserved in fossils, Religion is just a claim, it has not proven that a God exists, Religion is a illogical claim that was written by man.

Anyway, there are good aspects to Religion such as Family values but there are also bad aspects to Religion such as Hating others and violence.

Nobody not even Christians nor Muslims have proven that Science is wrong and that their right. Science and Religion does not mix well and never will.

It is not logical for a man to vision Angels(Islam), neither is it logical that a man can live inside a Fish(christianity), or that God chosen a particular number of people(judaism) to be worshipped and respected.

hello massed
i wont talk about it cuz i know u will not and never understand or accepet anything we will say .
this is waste of time . sorry but its true