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  • #31
    OK. I restate it


    Wrayun! Let me ask you a simple question.

    "When Bengalis with 56% majority (Punjabis being 24%) were subservient to Punjab then what was so special about pashtuns not to be subservient?

    What drastic change could you cite after the division of Pakistan in 1971 which empowered pashtun to the status of equality as per your claim?"
    Last edited by khyaal; 10-03-2010, 09:38 PM.

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    • #32
      When is Pashtunkhwa Pashtun ready for unity - Afghanistan ready and even Taliban pissed on the notion of recognising the Durrand Line?

      Where are you naraan, Wrayun, Ijaz Yousufzai, Toramana etc. Come on take the lead. As for leading united Pashtun nation - my vote will to either Khyaal or Mahmud Khan Achakzai only if they choose BLS as thier deputy.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jasmine
        Source and proof please. I have seen Birth certificates from many hospitals of Karachi of Pashtuns who have been born in Karachi and I have yet to see "Afghan". I will throw this in the pile of fantasies for now.
        I don't know about Karachi, but anyone who is born in Pukhtoonkhwa can testify to this. In fact when the name Pakistan was coined, supposedly the A stands for Afghania.

        You said they teach Afghan history, and guess what Wrayuna, you are wrong. They do not teach Afghan history. They do not teach about Ahmad Shah Baba or Mirwas baba. They do not teach about those brave Afghans at all.
        So when Pakistanis ask why their missiles are named after men like Abdali, Ghori, Suri, Ghaznavi, they are told that these men were Indian? Come on now.

        And with that very same Jinnah every naive Pashtuns has been brainwashed.
        In Afghanistan, the man whose men are responsible for raping countless Pukhtoon women (many of whom are still being held as concubines by the Northern Alliance), Ahmed Shah Masood, is promoted as the national icon, brainwashing Pukhtoon youth in to accepting their namus violator as their hero.

        It goes both way khoray.
        Last edited by Guest; 10-03-2010, 09:50 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by khyaal View Post
          Prove what?
          Prove the quote part, ie. I claimed Pukhtoons were equal in Pakistan.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
            When is Pashtunkhwa Pashtun ready for unity - Afghanistan ready and even Taliban pissed on the notion of recognising the Durrand Line?

            Where are you naraan, Wrayun, Ijaz Yousufzai, Toramana etc. Come on take the lead. As for leading united Pashtun nation - my vote will to either Khyaal or Mahmud Khan Achakzai only if they choose BLS as thier deputy.
            Where are you naraan, take the land back from the toor makhai Pakis. These toor makhai Pakis are supposedly so intelligent that has everyone under their thumbs.

            Please, less emotional rhetoric.

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            • #36
              OK. I state it for the third time


              Wrayun! Let me ask you a simple question.

              When Bengalis with 56% majority (Punjabis being 24%) were subservient to Punjab then what was so special about pashtuns not to be subservient?

              What drastic change could you cite after the division of Pakistan in 1971 which empowered pashtun to the status of equality as per your claim?

              Prove it here that Pashtuns are not subservient while Bengalis were (it is obvious since Bengalis rebelled against Punjab/Pakistan).

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                Where are you naraan, take the land back from the toor makhai Pakis. These toor makhai Pakis are supposedly so intelligent that has everyone under their thumbs.

                Please, less emotional rhetoric.
                What a pathetic mentality, Wrayun. Which land? Afghanistan is not under toormakhy control and never have been. You are under their thumb and their foot soldier just as proudly you say you were under Angriz. Ta sa bala wahaley ye? Sta khpal ghairat, hemat cher dai?

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                • #38
                  yaara comrada pregda chi zama da swaal jawaab kho rakree kana.lol

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                  • #39
                    Mashra wrora Khyaal Jana,

                    I really can't believe these guys.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                      Where are you naraan, take the land back from the toor makhai Pakis. These toor makhai Pakis are supposedly so intelligent that has everyone under their thumbs.

                      Please, less emotional rhetoric.
                      Wrayon,

                      Dont blame the durand line on your brothers from the northern side of this fictitious border. Those brother could easily say that we have been doing everything in our power to unite the two sides but it is your side that refuses to stand up to the panjabis and take back what rightfully belongs to you.

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                      • #41
                        i have said it many times. pashtun unity CAN NOT be POLITICAL or RELIGIOUS in the current circumstances

                        it has to be purely CULTURAL and SOCIAL

                        once an entire generation of pashtuns on both sides are educated and made self aware of their culture, then they will be politically enlightened enough to seek political unity

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by khyaal View Post
                          Prove it here that Pashtuns are not subservient while Bengalis were (it is obvious since Bengalis rebelled against Punjab/Pakistan).
                          Prove to me that Pukhtoons of Afghanistan are not subservient. Prove to me that Pukhtoons of Afghanistan are any better off than the Pukhtoons of Pakistan.

                          I clearly stated that calling Pukhtoons subservient of anyone is insulting, and calling them occupied is also insulting. Pukhtoons are the victims of their circumstances which isn't solely Punjaabi or Pakistan fault. To blame your shortcomings on others is escaping responsibility.

                          You are poisoning these young minds with the same old garbage that hasn't bore any fruits. All you will accomplish is to make them lazy, and irresponsible.

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                          • #43
                            ^ lolz Pashtuns of Afghanistan are king makers.

                            So it is Khyaal's fault too. Hmmm Wrayun on a secrete mission then after all..

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              Wrayon,

                              Dont blame the durand line on your brothers from the northern side of this fictitious border. Those brother could easily say that we have been doing everything in our power to unite the two sides but it is your side that refuses to stand up to the panjabis and take back what rightfully belongs to you.
                              I'm not, in fact, I am saying don't blame anyone. I saw blaming of Pakistani Pukhtoons alone, and that is wrong. It's not that easy to stand up to Punjaabis, it's not that clear cut as people make it out to be. As we say, oba pa tere de.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by laghmanking
                                Of course it has be to Religious. Islam can unite us and nothing else.
                                im not indicating that we have to remove Islam from our conciousness, but rather pashtun unity has to take place at a cultural and social level

                                it cannot have religious or political aims. it has to be mindful and respectful of islam, but it cannot be a religious or political movement because then you run into obstacles

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