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  • #46
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    As I said you can only throw those desi like insults. No wit.

    You must have came out of your mom's arse cause you talk like one big arsehole. tick tock, your arse itching for a big …..
    Maajar ghusa sho.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      Exactly. This is what I'm saying. I compare my cousins that are here(about 40) to ones that live in Peshawar and Kabul and the ones here are better. My cousins back in Kabul and Peshawar have this idea of America and the West that is fantasy. They think its this heaven and they want to copy everything American.
      Your cousins in Peshawar are maajar. So was your family when they were in Peshawar before moving to America. Pass on my message to your maajar cousins in Peshawar, "kala ba ze"?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Samandri View Post
        The people you met were Americans like you. I know some people are trying very hard to maintain their religiosity in America, but even that religiosity is of American/western style and flavor. I am not looking down upon them, its just that they are different.

        If i recall correctly, you cant speak Pashto. Thats the natural result of being born and raised in America. Even if some one is able to speak Pashto in America, he is barely recognizable as Pashtun. Just like i am a Pakistani, you lot are Americans. If one is in denial about his/her American identity and American-ness , then he is suffering from identity crisis. If some one has acquired citizenship of America and yet he does not consider America his country then he is a namak-haram and kamasal man.
        No, the people I met were not American like me. They were students/professionals directly from Pakistan (Punjabis and Pashtuns) .

        The point I was making was that contrary to your opinion, not fact, most American Muslims (Pashtun and non-Pashtun) are quite conservative.

        Lol I have no identity crisis. Speaking Pashto does not make someone a saint.

        You have an idea of America which is flawed. America is made up of many Americas. It is not exactly a melting pot but something like a mosaic. Each people keep their identity for the most part.

        Muslims in America are mostly conservative IMO and I have travelled the world
        Last edited by Insight; 12-24-2018, 02:00 AM.
        "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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        • #49
          Many people think that "being American" is a single identity. The reality is that America is made up of many Americas outside white and black America.
          "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Samandri View Post
            Your cousins in Peshawar are maajar. So was your family when they were in Peshawar before moving to America. Pass on my message to your maajar cousins in Peshawar, "kala ba ze"?
            haha. You do realize that there are paki citizen Zazi. We are a border tribe. Many Zazi lived in FATA before the creation of Pakistan. Remember when you thought that Wazir were nomadic and come down for the winter to warmer lands. Zazi did/does the same thing. Also we never lived in Peshawar, we lived in Parachinar and Dowaba, I told you this before.
            Last edited by khushal; 12-24-2018, 03:05 AM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              haha. You do realize that there are paki citizen Zazi. We are a border tribe. Many Zazi lived in FATA before the creation of Pakistan.
              Khushal is doing "hahaha", he is done for. There are no Zazai Pakistanis. All of them are maajars. Why you are so ashamed of maajar status of your cousins?. Or perhaps you consider them Pakistanis because they have acquired Pakistani citizenship illegally through fraud and rishwat like thousands of other beghairat Afghanistanis?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                we lived in Parachinar and Dowaba, I told you this before.
                Whatever was the case, your family was maajaran.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Insight View Post
                  Many people think that "being American" is a single identity. The reality is that America is made up of many Americas outside white and black America.
                  The fantasy white and black America only exist on tv. Its like those commercials of classy people drinking beer and liquor acting intelligent. The reality is different.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                    Khushal is doing "hahaha", he is done for. There are no Zazai Pakistanis. All of them are maajars. Why you are so ashamed of maajar status of your cousins?. Or perhaps you consider them Pakistanis because they have acquired Pakistani citizenship illegally through fraud and rishwat like thousands of other beghairat Afghanistanis?
                    Its because you know so little about Pashtuns and their history. Besides if it is through rishwat, the baighyrat are the ones taking the rishwat, they would even give us their mothers and sisters if we paid them, its like that American diplomat said, the pakis would sell their mothers for a couple of USD.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Insight View Post
                      No, the people I met were not American like me. They were students/professionals directly from Pakistan (Punjabis and Pashtuns) .

                      The point I was making was that contrary to your opinion, not fact, most American Muslims (Pashtun and non-Pashtun) are quite conservative.

                      Lol I have no identity crisis. Speaking Pashto does not make someone a saint.

                      You have an idea of America which is flawed. America is made up of many Americas. It is not exactly a melting pot but something like a mosaic. Each people keep their identity for the most part.

                      Muslims in America are mostly conservative IMO and I have travelled the world
                      No, majority of them are not. According to the Pew Research Centre, 23% of Americans raised as Muslims no longer identify with the faith. The number of ex-Muslims in America is rising - Losing their religion

                      Islam is deeply embedded within our cultures. Once you lose culture, you also lose religion if you were a nominal Muslim. There are no Muslim neighborhoods in America like UK's so Muslims there are quickly dissolved into American culture within a generation or two. You may think of yourself as very conservative but if i meet you in person , i will find you quite western and American.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        Its because you know so little about Pashtuns and their history. Besides if it is through rishwat, the baighyrat are the ones taking the rishwat, they would even give us their mothers and sisters if we paid them, its like that American diplomat said, the pakis would sell their mothers for a couple of USD.
                        I know enough about maajars.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by khushal View Post
                          . Besides if it is through rishwat, the baighyrat are the ones taking the rishwat, they would even give us their mothers and sisters if we paid them.
                          Nope, the ones offering rishwat are desperate and will offer their mothers and sisters to rishwatkhors to get their job done. Maajars in Peshawar do all kind of things in desperation, including prostitution.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                            Khushal is doing "hahaha", he is done for. There are no Zazai Pakistanis. All of them are maajars. Why you are so ashamed of maajar status of your cousins?. Or perhaps you consider them Pakistanis because they have acquired Pakistani citizenship illegally through fraud and rishwat like thousands of other beghairat Afghanistanis?
                            Wrong. There are Zazai families that have been living in Parachinar since before the partition of India. I think one of the articles on your site even mentions that.

                            Please stick to posting about Pashtun history. You’re ruining your reputation with these arguments.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                              Nope, the ones offering rishwat are desperate and will offer their mothers and sisters to rishwatkhors to get their job done. Maajars in Peshawar do all kind of things in desperation, including prostitution.
                              The prostitutes take the money therefore the rishwatkhora are the prostitutes. Prostitution exist in Pakistan because you want it to exist. Nightclubs, Boozing and drug use exist in Pakistan and the gov does nothing about it is because you want it to exist. You the Amsterdam of the South and Central Asia.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post
                                Wrong. There are Zazai families that have been living in Parachinar since before the partition of India. I think one of the articles on your site even mentions that.

                                Please stick to posting about Pashtun history. You’re ruining your reputation with these arguments.
                                There are also Zazi that live further down also. When ever there was a badi over a dispute in the watan, many would move down to escape reprisals and live down there. Some would even move to Lahore. All of them have paki citizenship.

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