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[khushal]

Pakistan has a an entire social class of West worshipping sycophants from the Middle and Upper economic levels of Pakistan society.

They literally see western media and try to copy it to the letter; one hand it's strange how artificial and manufactured it is on another, they are precise imitations right down to the mannerisms, the emotional responses ....jargon ..everything ...like they're LARPING white people ...it's strange.

I put up a more descent video but there are other videos of behind the scenes and the paki woman change clothes in front of everyone in the open similar to Western fashion shows.

That social class exists among Afghans as well and Samandri put a video of it. Its the same thing. They have western like night clubs in Pakistan where womanizing, boozing and drugs are common. I know many pakis that proudly tell me of these things and brag about how open they are.
There are about 30 Afghan families here where I live and I only know of 3 families that are like that but none of them have married Americans. Most marry Afghans from the watan and in that scenario, I feel bad for the females that grow up here and marry a guy from the watan because they are not compatible at all. The marriages that I know of the female are not really happy in the marriage. But males that grow up here that marry females from the watan are mostly happy.

[Samandri]

That social class exists among Afghans as well and Samandri put a video of it. .

The difference is that those Karachiites in your video are fashion models on podium, while the American-Afghans in my video are not fashion models , just regular Afghan-American people of everyday life that you meet in regular setting. But what has Urdu-speaking fashion models of Karachi any thing to do with life style in my Pakhtunkhwa?. Drop the pretense and admit that you are an American and Americanized.

[khushal]

They have them in Peshawar as well. Before you know it Paki cities will be the same, that is the trend. You guys worship the idea of America that is only in your minds.
Fashion Show Peshawar - YouTube
Best Dance competition in peshawar garrison club - YouTube
Peshawar Girls hot Dance | Edward Maya singer in peshawar!bagh azad kashmir rally - YouTube
peshawar dj seraj and kamran dance - YouTube

Everyone is a fashion model. It's just that not everyone is paid for it and it seems like you don't know women. When women get together with other women no matter where they are from, it's a fashion show.

[maneatinglizard]

They have them in Peshawar as well. Before you know it Paki cities will be the same, that is the trend. You guys worship the idea of America that is only in your minds.
Fashion Show Peshawar - YouTube
Best Dance competition in peshawar garrison club - YouTube
Peshawar Girls hot Dance | Edward Maya singer in peshawar!bagh azad kashmir rally - YouTube
peshawar dj seraj and kamran dance - YouTube

Everyone is a fashion model. It's just that not everyone is paid for it and it seems like you don't know women. When women get together with other women no matter where they are from, it's a fashion show.

Samandri has a very deluded understanding of the West and Muslims living here. It’s honestly getting hard to take him seriously because of how stubborn he’s being on this issue when multiple people have explained to him that he has it wrong.

[khushal]

Samandri has a very deluded understanding of the West and Muslims living here. It’s honestly getting hard to take him seriously because of how stubborn he’s being on this issue when multiple people have explained to him that he has it wrong.

That paki soldier dancing like a donkey in the RT video might have been his relative because that is what got him triggered. Samandri does have desi like behavior even though he claims to be Pashtun. No one really has to explain it to him, all he has to do is look at the statistics.
American Muslims: Identity, assimilation and community

And you know some of those guys married for the green card.

[Samandri]

That paki soldier dancing like a donkey in the RT video might have been his relative because that is what got him triggered. Samandri does have desi like behavior even though he claims to be Pashtun.

Actually you got triggered and got offended by my statement, perhaps because your own mother was used as a baby-making factory by your father and you relate to that.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Samandri you have some valid points, but on somethings you're blowing hot air and don't know what you're talking about.


Also, it's strange because you've actually called out Pakistani Westoxifcation before. I'll say the Westoxified Pakis in Pakistan are more erased of their values than people raised here who are more "moderate" in their behavior. I mean I can still find plenty of Afghans that don't drink and smoke and still pray. But I remember dozens of Pakistanis in Pakistan from webgroups bragging about how they have raves in run down slum basements and do ecstacy and have orgies Some are even copying the Western trend of "polyamory" because they see online its b ecome "chique" with privileged Middle Class white people.

Afghans in America are a damn mess .....Pakistanis in Pakistan ....are a bigger mess. ....

[Insight]

The difference is that those Karachiites in your video are fashion models on podium, while the American-Afghans in my video are not fashion models , just regular Afghan-American people of everyday life that you meet in regular setting. But what has Urdu-speaking fashion models of Karachi any thing to do with life style in my Pakhtunkhwa?. Drop the pretense and admit that you are an American and Americanized.

Bro, I have to say while there is a segment of Muslims (Pashtun and non-Pashtun) in US who SOLD OUT wannabes, they are a minority.


I always used to think I was moderate, but when I socialized with Peshawari Pashtun and Punjabis in Boston (they were either students or professionals directly from Pakistan), I was the MOST conservative one there.

I felt like a fish out of water

[Insight]

Samandri you have some valid points, but on somethings you're blowing hot air and don't know what you're talking about.


Also, it's strange because you've actually called out Pakistani Westoxifcation before. I'll say the Westoxified Pakis in Pakistan are more erased of their values than people raised here and more "moderate" in their behavior. I mean I can still find plenty of Afghans that don't drink and smoke and still pray. But I remember dozens of Pakistanis in Pakistan from webgroups bragging about how they have raves in run down slum basements and do ecstacy and have orgies Some are even copying the Western trend of "polyamory" because they see online its b ecome "chique" with privileged Middle Class white people.

Afghans in America are a damn mess .....Pakistanis in Pakistan ....are a bigger mess. ....

"Polyamory" is a thing in the US? Imagine how disease is spreading.

[khushal]

Actually you got triggered and got offended by my statement, perhaps because your own mother was used as a baby-making factory by your father and you relate to that.

As I said you can only throw those desi like insults. No wit.

You must have came out of your mom's arse cause you talk like one big arsehole. tick tock, your arse itching for a big …..

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

"Polyamory" is a thing in the US? Imagine how disease is spreading.

Not just the U.S., it's become the hipster white liberal trend all over. This is what they're passing for "progressive" along with Transgenderism and fat-acceptance and other stupidity.

[khushal]

Samandri you have some valid points, but on somethings you're blowing hot air and don't know what you're talking about.


Also, it's strange because you've actually called out Pakistani Westoxifcation before. I'll say the Westoxified Pakis in Pakistan are more erased of their values than people raised here who are more "moderate" in their behavior. I mean I can still find plenty of Afghans that don't drink and smoke and still pray. But I remember dozens of Pakistanis in Pakistan from webgroups bragging about how they have raves in run down slum basements and do ecstacy and have orgies Some are even copying the Western trend of "polyamory" because they see online its b ecome "chique" with privileged Middle Class white people.

Afghans in America are a damn mess .....Pakistanis in Pakistan ....are a bigger mess. ....

Exactly. This is what I'm saying. I compare my cousins that are here(about 40) to ones that live in Peshawar and Kabul and the ones here are better. My cousins back in Kabul and Peshawar have this idea of America and the West that is fantasy. They think its this heaven and they want to copy everything American.

[Insight]

Exactly. This is what I'm saying. I compare my cousins that are here(about 40) to ones that live in Peshawar and Kabul and the ones here are better. My cousins back in Kabul and Peshawar have this idea of America and the West that is fantasy. They think its this heaven and they want to copy everything American.

Bro, I think in urban places like Kabul, Peshawar, and Islamabad specificallywith the ollege educated people-that the American wannabe idea holds.


BUT I would not generalize. They are a growing minority.

[khushal]

Bro, I think in urban places like Kabul, Peshawar, and Islamabad specificallywith the ollege educated people-that the American wannabe idea holds.


BUT I would not generalize. They are a growing minority.

Western Media is extremely powerful. The pro homo feministic, anti reproduction TV shows that are fed to Americans are being fed and watched all over the world even in Mecca. In the world of facebook. Western liberal values are spreading like wild fire.

[Samandri]

I always used to think I was moderate, but when I socialized with Peshawari Pashtun and Punjabis in Boston (they were either students or professionals directly from Pakistan), I was the MOST conservative one there.

The people you met were Americans like you. I know some people are trying very hard to maintain their religiosity in America, but even that religiosity is of American/western style and flavor. I am not looking down upon them, its just that they are different.

If i recall correctly, you cant speak Pashto. Thats the natural result of being born and raised in America. Even if some one is able to speak Pashto in America, he is barely recognizable as Pashtun. Just like i am a Pakistani, you lot are Americans. If one is in denial about his/her American identity and American-ness , then he is suffering from identity crisis. If some one has acquired citizenship of America and yet he does not consider America his country then he is a namak-haram and kamasal man.