Durrand line

[Azmal]

You want to have a discussion about why Afghanistan should recklessly pursue a policy of undermining the sovereignty of a neighboring country while juggling with a militancy and ethnic tensions? What's there to discuss here?

On contraire Afghanistan had never had a clearly policy towards Pakistan let alone undermining it. Afghanistan recognized Pakistan only few months after it’s creation by outgoing British Raj---what does recognizing a state means? But then Ali Jennah speech to tribal elders in Peshawar got Afghanistan off guard and made Kabul to realize that Pakistan is not an independent Muslim country but successor of British raj that is bend to continue the forward policy of British Raj towards Afghanistan and Pashtuns. Ali Jannah indicated this policy frontier regulation under deceitful words of Azad Qabahil---where collective punishment and other inhuman policy are still to this day are norms.
Wali khan in his book mentions a conversation he had with Zahir Shah, where he ask the King what Afghanistan means by Pashtunistan…an independent state, part of Afghanistan? Or more resource and freedom under Pakistan…the king referred him to prime minster….Wail khan further writes that if the King didn’t knew the answer he was not naïve to except the minster will.
Ethnic tension and militancy is of recent coming in Afghanistan….If you’d really like to learn about ethnic conflict, then look no further than Pakistan, Iraq or even Iran to get a better perspective. The total sum of violence between battling militias in during 90s Kabul aren’t equivalent to the extreme violence experienced in Iraq during a single month….or what is happening in Baluchistan or Waziristan…and it would get a whole lot worse if the state didn’t exits like it did in Afghanistan… Now THAT’S what I’d call ethnic conflict.

[Azmal]

I've gone off tangent. Remember, it was you who mentioned the British and the Americans 'saving' Pakistan during 3 wars. Call it going off tangent if that makes you happy, but I'm not going to let you spout blatant falsehoods.



The US demanded the handover of a number of Afghan Taliban leaders which they're still waiting for while they bleed money and lives in Afghanistan. Don't you think that's a better representation of sovereignty than agreeing to handover say, an Al Qaeda militant who Pakistan has no incentive in saving. You seem to have very little understanding of geopolitics and international relations and look at things from a very petty perspective which I think is skewing your opinion.

How is that benefits Pakistan in long run...I'm all ears tell me. Pakistan is like a monster Baobhan Sith who uses Islam card to seduce village folks but then end up drinking their blood.
Every single Afghan, even Taliban hates Pakistan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FTZmkVYs2g

[Azmal]

Kushal is an idiot, he contradicts himself in same post.

[khushal]

For us Yakhni is like a soup that is not oily.

[khushal]

Kushal is an idiot, he contradicts himself in same post.

Your problem is that you have a hard time understanding the effects of policy. You promoting a policy that has destroyed Afghanistan but you can't see it or dont want to see it. Your blind or want to be blind.

[Peacelove]

How is that benefits Pakistan in long run...I'm all ears tell me. Pakistan is like a monster Baobhan Sith who uses Islam card to seduce village folks but then end up drinking their blood.
Every single Afghan, even Taliban hates Pakistan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FTZmkVYs2g

Afghanistan along with Taliban should attack Pakistan...Qabail will support them to since they are already persecuted and people of KP will align themselves to Afghans not with Pakistan...PTM is already going on ..I think its time for Afghanistan to attack weak and fractured Pakistan and reclaim what belongs to them truly

[Azmal]

Your problem is that you have a hard time understanding the effects of policy. You promoting a policy that has destroyed Afghanistan but you can't see it or dont want to see it. Your blind or want to be blind.

What policy I'm promoting? Kabul never had actual policy towards Pakistan, except using Durand against strategic/economical blackmailing of successor of British Raj.

[Azmal]

Afghanistan along with Taliban should attack Pakistan...Qabail will support them to since they are already persecuted and people of KP will align themselves to Afghans not with Pakistan...PTM is already going on ..I think its time for Afghanistan to attack weak and fractured Pakistan and reclaim what belongs to them truly

The problem of Afghanistan is we never had a policy towards Pakistan, to this day I don’t know if Kabul wants an independent Pashtonistan, a Loya Afghanistan or promotion of Pashton culture and identity and more freedom for Pashtons of Pashtonistan---on other hand as Ali Jannah indicated in his speech to Qabahil--Pakistan continues caring forward policy of British Raj and see themselves as such---and would they not… Pakistani elite are the same missionary of British Raj...that had faithfully served their colonial master with their reward being theft of Afghan land. Thus we Afghans has been in war with British Raj and since 1947 with her successor Pakistan.
Sooner or later Pakistan will break, just like it did in 1974…it is not a matter of if but when for it is based on hatred and has so much blood of innocent Afghans in their hand.



Below is list history of Pakistan ’s security institutions.

ISI:
ISI was the brainchild of Australian-born British Army officer, Major General R. Cawthome, then Deputy Chief of Staff in the Pakistan Army.

Pakistan Militray:
Remnant of British India army, made up of Indian-Muslims whom have faithfully served British for 200 years... Including but not limited against Iraq , Afghanistan , World War 1 and 2.

Army:
First two Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army where General Sir Frank Messervy (August 15, 1947 - February 10, 1948) General Sir Douglas David Gracey ( February 11, 1948 - January 16, 1951 .


Pakistan air force.
Air force Chiefs
Air Vice Marshal Allan Perry-Keane (August 15, 1947 - February 17, 1949)
Air Vice Marshal R.L.R. Atcherley (February 18, 1949 - May 6, 1951)
Air Vice Marshal L.W. Cannon (May 7, 1951 - June 19, 1955)
Air Vice Marshal A.W.B. McDonald (June 20, 1955 - July 22, 1957)

Naval Chiefs
Vice Admiral J.W. Jefford CB CBE (August 14, 1947 - January 31, 1953)

Something to think about... can these organizations could dare to defy their creato

[khushal]

What policy I'm promoting? Kabul never had actual policy towards Pakistan, except using Durand against strategic/economical blackmailing of successor of British Raj.

The whole pashtunistan policy which is why Soviets had so much influence in the country. Kabul always had a non-aggressive relationship with the British Raj in exchange for funds. Kabul was funded by the Brits from Shah Shuja/Dost Mohammad times.
The Pashtunistan policy allowed the Soviets to use Afghanistan(Buffer) against the British Raj(Pakistan) in the Great Game. Like I said to the Pashun wannabe panjabi, you are just tools and not Sovereign.

[khushal]

Afghanistan along with Taliban should attack Pakistan...Qabail will support them to since they are already persecuted and people of KP will align themselves to Afghans not with Pakistan...PTM is already going on ..I think its time for Afghanistan to attack weak and fractured Pakistan and reclaim what belongs to them truly

The Afghan gov cant do anything, It is an occupied country. It does not have independent choices. It has to ask permission from its master before going to the bathroom.

[Peacelove]

The Afghan gov cant do anything, It is an occupied country. It does not have independent choices. It has to ask permission from its master before going to the bathroom.

If thats the case then why harping the slogans and adding more miseries to the life of innocent..Because of them innocent refugees facing backlash in Pakistan while they are not able to take care of whatever they have

[Peacelove]

The problem of Afghanistan is we never had a policy towards Pakistan, to this day I don’t know if Kabul wants an independent Pashtonistan, a Loya Afghanistan or promotion of Pashton culture and identity and more freedom for Pashtons of Pashtonistan---on other hand as Ali Jannah indicated in his speech to Qabahil--Pakistan continues caring forward policy of British Raj and see themselves as such---and would they not… Pakistani elite are the same missionary of British Raj...that had faithfully served their colonial master with their reward being theft of Afghan land. Thus we Afghans has been in war with British Raj and since 1947 with her successor Pakistan.
Sooner or later Pakistan will break, just like it did in 1974…it is not a matter of if but when for it is based on hatred and has so much blood of innocent Afghans in their hand.


Below is list history of Pakistan ’s security institutions.

ISI:
ISI was the brainchild of Australian-born British Army officer, Major General R. Cawthome, then Deputy Chief of Staff in the Pakistan Army.

Pakistan Militray:
Remnant of British India army, made up of Indian-Muslims whom have faithfully served British for 200 years... Including but not limited against Iraq , Afghanistan , World War 1 and 2.

Army:
First two Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army where General Sir Frank Messervy (August 15, 1947 - February 10, 1948) General Sir Douglas David Gracey ( February 11, 1948 - January 16, 1951 .


Pakistan air force.
Air force Chiefs
Air Vice Marshal Allan Perry-Keane (August 15, 1947 - February 17, 1949)
Air Vice Marshal R.L.R. Atcherley (February 18, 1949 - May 6, 1951)
Air Vice Marshal L.W. Cannon (May 7, 1951 - June 19, 1955)
Air Vice Marshal A.W.B. McDonald (June 20, 1955 - July 22, 1957)

Naval Chiefs
Vice Admiral J.W. Jefford CB CBE (August 14, 1947 - January 31, 1953)

Something to think about... can these organizations could dare to defy their creato

I don't know when Pakistan will break ..If Afghanistan does not have capability or ability to handle Pakistan why poking them to add more misery..Please see the last 40-50 years millions have been made refugess in Pakistan and Europe due to situation in country..Why adding problems in people with
Look at now they are fencing the border it will add more issues to the people from Afghanistan and border areas doing trade and familes just because there empty slogans..Either they should do something, attack Pakistan or simply fix Afghanistan..
They are doing nothing

[salman47]

For us Yakhni is like a soup that is not oily.

Yes there is no extra oil in Yakhni. The only oil it has is from the meat/chicken/etc.. itself. Also it has no spices just salt/black pepper!

[Akbar]

For us Yakhni is like a soup that is not oily.

Yes
It is made with boiler chicken and preferred by people with cholesterol and blood pressure complications.

[Firdousi]

If thats the case then why harping the slogans and adding more miseries to the life of innocent..Because of them innocent refugees facing backlash in Pakistan while they are not able to take care of whatever they have

Afghan refugees are being harassed not over the Durrand Line but rather over the growing frustration among the Pakistan prostitue establishment when it comes to their failure to topple the prostitute Afghan government and bring to power their own prostitute Taliban puppets.

Historically Pakis have had a huge admiration and love for Afghans. Its in the last decade when everything changed. Paki military establishment controls all the media and since most of Pakistanis are retarded, they have been easily brainwashed into blaming Afghan refugees for all their miseries.

For the record the way the prostitute Afghan government is flirting with the Hindutva dalkhor government and also the terrorist attacks in Pakistan backed by NDS are not helping. Durand Line is a dead horse. Pakistan know this, Pathans know this, Indians know this, non Pashtun Afghans know this,.. its just few deluded Afghan Pashtun nationalist who in their stupidity still want us to keep fighting a stronger country for the sake of a wet dream.