The Prospects of Pakhtun Nationalism in Afghanistan's Politics

[Qazi Saad Yousafzai]

Why we should be concerned and focused on Pashtun nationalism in Afghanistan, after all Pashtun/Afghans are not Nazis.
Actually it is only needed in Occupied Pakhtunland in Pakistan where we have been deprived of all of our material as well as cultural and historical assets.

lolz!! u live in k.p?? i dnt thnk so!!
i do! wot "deprivation of our material as well as cultural and historical assets are u talking about"???

[Qazi Saad Yousafzai]

After widespread devastation Afghanistan is back on the track of democracy. Politics is getting its shape.What you think about the future of Pakhtun Nationalism in the politics of Afghanistan?.

back on track of democracy or just another puppet show??

[BLS_1919v2.0]

lolz!! u live in k.p?? i dnt thnk so!!
i do! wot "deprivation of our material as well as cultural and historical assets are u talking about"???

Minerals, Oil, tobacco, educational material, media (AVT khyber is a channel not even owned by a Pashtun, many Pashtuns have tried opening a channel but were denied permission). Qazi for once be a little fair in your arguments and don't jump up and down.

@MWNM, no one said Pashtuns should leave their religion, if this was your point then you should have made it and simply left it at that. However you didn't and ended up with warped statements, and pick and choose style arguments. Your statement is like when people ask for tolerance or human rights. Which sane human being is against tolerance or human rights?

[Qazi Saad Yousafzai]

i fully agree that AVT is a 100% crap channel that tries that people of different areas hate each other all the time! BLS yara im being fair, dont forget vn v have given away stuff, v hav also recieved from other provinces. I know punjabis, sindhis and baluch, seriously no1 is a villan, u remember hw omer abdul rehman khan divided us? how karzai us acting like a US pet? its the same way in which paki rulers are acting, so dnt blame punjabis or any race for it, blame the face that we did not make ourself prepared to eliminate evil from our society, its same on both sides, both pak and afghan govs are US puppies and US is setting up a puppy fight so that the largest muslim unity that can be in the region has no chance. in pak, no punjabi is killing a pathan, its CIA and RAW funded groups that are doing it, just like in afghanistan. for once, dnt make the race as a foundation stone for creating a country, let it be ISLAM.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

i fully agree that AVT is a 100% crap channel that tries that people of different areas hate each other all the time! BLS yara im being fair, dont forget vn v have given away stuff, v hav also recieved from other provinces. I know punjabis, sindhis and baluch, seriously no1 is a villan, u remember hw omer abdul rehman khan divided us? how karzai us acting like a US pet? its the same way in which paki rulers are acting, so dnt blame punjabis or any race for it, blame the face that we did not make ourself prepared to eliminate evil from our society, its same on both sides, both pak and afghan govs are US puppies and US is setting up a puppy fight so that the largest muslim unity that can be in the region has no chance. in pak, no punjabi is killing a pathan, its CIA and RAW funded groups that are doing it, just like in afghanistan. for once, dnt make the race as a foundation stone for creating a country, let it be ISLAM.

Stop twisting my answers and coming up with things that make you feel good. Panjabiyaano praedawaa ma warsaraa tsa kaar neeshtha...za stha state Pakistan khilaaf yamm aghae kae che sok ham wee. Zakaa da state da Pashtano par ziddh dae. Aoo matha da bae zae thabligh ha makawaa wrora walae che za musalmaan yam ao ma Islam pasae badh na dee waelae.

You are not being fair, because you back track on everything, prove none of your points. Go check the baloch areas, they hate panjabis, not me. They want their own freedom. My issue is with the state of Pakistan and I don't see its survival as beneficial to Pashtuns. It is simple.

Where is RAW funding? CIA is also funding the state you defend. Be fair, and don't worry about my foundations of a state. Unlike khudaad e muslimeen Pakistan (which was British created btw), I won't cry over RAW or CIA.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

@MWNM, no one said Pashtuns should leave their religion, if this was your point then you should have made it and simply left it at that. However you didn't and ended up with warped statements, and pick and choose style arguments. Your statement is like when people ask for tolerance or human rights. Which sane human being is against tolerance or human rights?

One of the aspects of following your religion would be to submit to those who are authority over you. Therefore, the Pashtun of Afghanistan have to submit to the Afghan Government and the Pashtun of Pakistan have to submit to the Government of Pakistan.

Now how was my statements warped? I think it is you, with all due respect, who has a warped understanding of Islam.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

One of the aspects of following your religion would be to submit to those who are authority over you. Therefore, the Pashtun of Afghanistan have to submit to the Afghan Government and the Pashtun of Pakistan have to submit to the Government of Pakistan.

Now how was my statements warped? I think it is you, with all due respect, who has a warped understanding of Islam.

That applies to a khilafath style ruler and definitely not to Pakistan. Especially when its basis is unislamic and it is oppressing the people. Please I know that hadith very well, don't even try it lolz/

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

What on earth are you talking about?

If you live in Canada you have to submit to the Government of Canada, if you live in the US, you have to submit to its government. This has nothing to do with an Islamic type "khilafat." In Islam you have to obey the laws of your land, hence obey the authority over you.

I don't know you well, but I am getting the feeling you have no care for Islam as a whole, but for whatever suits your objective. I might be wrong, but this is how you are coming across. Have some fear of Allah.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

What on earth are you talking about?

If you live in Canada you have to submit to the Government of Canada, if you live in the US, you have to submit to its government. This has nothing to do with an Islamic type "khilafat." In Islam you have to obey the laws of your land.

I don't know you well, but I am getting the feeling you have no care for Islam as a whole, but for whatever suits your objective. I might be wrong, but this is how you are coming across. Have some fear of Allah.

In muslim areas the hadith is that you accept the rule of the khaleefah (amir) even if he is oppressive, unless he fails to establish salaah (again I am paraphrasing). So by you trying to adopt it to a state in muslim areas which is based on unislamic foundations does not work.

However this is not a religious debate we are discussing another issue. I know how you love to divert things but your point has been made and I don't know what you are still trying to rpove.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

No, you are wrong. It is a Quranic ayah.

And how I'm I diverting things? Aren't we Muslim? SHould we not follow Islam and not our own desires? Can we be a little mature?

[khyaal]

Don't drag Islam into political matters. Being your muslim brother would you allow me snatch your assets from you. Weren't Bengalis muslim? Aren't Baloch muslim? Why did muslim Punjab militarily occupied Qalat States Union and committed a historic genocied agains muslim Bengali people?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Islam should not be dragged into political matters, however, Muslims are given guidance on how to live under the political system of someone. See the difference?

[khyaal]

btw, why pakistan accepted and thus occupied our land after a fake referendum by the British colonialists?

[khyaal]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Islam should not be dragged into political matters, however, Muslims are given guidance on how to live under the political system of someone. See the difference?

ok, now answer the above questions in the light of islam.

[Qazi Saad Yousafzai]

@khyal: man it wrnt jst punjabis, it was everyone, its fault of entire pak, dnt jst target any1 man!