Afghan and Pakistani border guards clash in Torkham

[marwat]

My bad. What i wanted to say was that pakistan army has good coordination, discipline and are well-supplied. Taliban is another matter, if Pakistan army was suffering x number of casualties at their hands in gurrela tactics, ANA suffers 5x or more casualties at the hands of Taliban. ANA is more like tribal militia and act like one, they also have charsis in their ranks. The point is, in regular warfare, ANA is no match for Pakistan army....

I would like to watch this new video of Waziristan, Do you have any link?

I watched it a while ago on youtube, I don't even have proper internet connection now. When I am home I will search for it. Some paki nationalist had uploaded it.

[Aryana]

LOL

Was Mir-Wais Khan even Pashtun when he drove the Sadozai from Kandahar? Was Abdali even Pashtun when he joined forced with Nadir Shah Qoli against the Hotaks?

Do you know what atrocities were committed by Nadir Shah Qoli against Pashtuns? Have you ever read 99% of Samandri's posts? Where he decries "Porkistani" army? Are are you a total lunkhead that blows a post out of context?

Are YOU Even Pashtun .......or are you Kushan Prince's new wannabe Pashtun incarnation now that a picture of them is revealed and they look nothing like a Pashtun?

So supporting genocide and killing of Pashtuns is the correct thing to do? You should understand what you're advocating for, instead of spewing **** out of your mouth without hesitation if you even find one word praising and supporting Pashtuns and Afghanistan. Ever since you've come to this forum, the only things you say (quite frankly, you get those statements from your rectum) are anti-Pashtun and anti-Afghan.

Who TF is Kushan prince?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

So supporting genocide and killing of Pashtuns is the correct thing to do? You should understand what you're advocating for, instead of spewing **** out of your mouth without hesitation if you even find one word praising and supporting Pashtuns and Afghanistan. Ever since you've come to this forum, the only things you say (quite frankly, you get those statements from your rectum) are anti-Pashtun and anti-Afghan.

Who TF is Kushan prince?

Nice Emotional Black-Mail tactic; but that's not going to work on me. Considering that YOU DON'T EVEN SPEAK PASHTO.. it's nonsense to accuse others of being Anti-Afghan/Anti-Pashtun; You've also made remarks that clearly show GROSS inaccuracies regarding facts and details about Afghanistan, that only people unfamiliar with Afghan society would make.

For the record; I'm not Anti-Anyone, rather I am PRO-TRUTH, and believe Intellectual Rigor and Accuracy are Important Standards to uphold; And That's a threat to ideologues like yourself that rely on fabrications and mythologization to Hijack Pashtun identity to mask your own inferiority complex.

Now please Show a DIRECT QUOTE ...where Samandri LITERALLY says "I support the genocide and killing of Pashtuns" And if Samandri was advocating Pashtun genocide; How do you explain ALL his other posts that are critical about Military Aggression against Pashtuns?

OH I know ....You just conveniently forgot that part right?Because whatever you just quoted HAS ALMOST nothing to do with what you claim he did.

Maybe you should PAY ATTENTION to what people post; rather than CHERRY pick statements out of context?

[Aryana]

Nice Emotional Black-Mail tactic; but that's not going to work on me. Considering that YOU DON'T EVEN SPEAK PASHTO.. it's nonsense to accuse others of being Anti-Afghan/Anti-Pashtun; You've also made remarks that clearly show GROSS inaccuracies regarding facts and details about Afghanistan, that only people unfamiliar with Afghan society would make.

For the record; I'm not Anti-Anyone, rather I am PRO-TRUTH, and believe Intellectual Rigor and Accuracy are Important Standards to uphold; And That's a threat to ideologues like yourself that rely on fabrications and mythologization to Hijack Pashtun identity to mask your own inferiority complex.

Now please Show a DIRECT QUOTE ...where Samandri LITERALLY says "I support the genocide and killing of Pashtuns" And if Samandri was advocating Pashtun genocide; How do you explain ALL his other posts that are critical about Military Aggression against Pashtuns?

OH I know ....You just conveniently forgot that part right?Because whatever you just quoted HAS ALMOST nothing to do with what you claim he did.

Maybe you should PAY ATTENTION to what people post; rather than CHERRY pick statements out of context?

All of this is an example of the **** that you post. The most likely place you get this information from is your rectum. You can go on about how I don't "speak Pashto" but the truth is that you aren't pro-truth. Whenever something good is mentioned about Pashtuns and Afghans, you're the first person I see who tries to refute them and talk **** about Pashtuns. If you support the Porkistani army or Porkistan, you are supporting the genocide of Pashtuns, Balochis and other ethnic groups, because that's one of the atrocities they've committed. Your only pathetic arguments are claiming that you're favour """""intelligence""""" over anything else, and claiming someone else as "not being Pashtun" (as with what you have done with [MENTION=18277]Afghanfootball[/MENTION]. I've noticed a pattern here with your autism and accusations; if someone is a supporter of Pashtuns/Afghans you're quick to tell them about how they're not "Pashtun").

[Afghanfootball]

All of this is an example of the **** that you post. The most likely place you get this information from is your rectum. You can go on about how I don't "speak Pashto" but the truth is that you aren't pro-truth. Whenever something good is mentioned about Pashtuns and Afghans, you're the first person I see who tries to refute them and talk **** about Pashtuns. If you support the Porkistani army or Porkistan, you are supporting the genocide of Pashtuns, Balochis and other ethnic groups, because that's one of the atrocities they've committed. Your only pathetic arguments are claiming that you're favour """""intelligence""""" over anything else, and claiming someone else as "not being Pashtun" (as with what you have done with [MENTION=18277]Afghanfootball[/MENTION]. I've noticed a pattern here with your autism and accusations; if someone is a supporter of Pashtuns/Afghans you're quick to tell them about how they're not "Pashtun").

Its quite obvious this guy has something against Pashtuns. He's been posting on here since 2011 and has never had 1 positive post about Pashtuns today or their history. He has even gone as far as to insult Ahmad Shah Baba and even call him Ahmad Shah Quli (Nadir Shah's last name).

On him calling people non Pashtuns. He was probably bullied by his Pashtun side of his family for being half yemeni.

[Firdousi]

Its quite obvious this guy has something against Pashtuns. He's been posting on here since 2011 and has never had 1 positive post about Pashtuns today or their history. He has even gone as far as to insult Ahmad Shah Baba and even call him Ahmad Shah Quli (Nadir Shah's last name).

On him calling people non Pashtuns. He was probably bullied by his Pashtun side of his family for being half yemeni.

Was Ahmad Shah Baba Multani some sort of prophet or what? Why can't people insult him? To me he was a Punjabi warlord, who spent most of his life as a chieftain of a Persianized Turkeman king. Once he died, when his body was still warm, he even dared to steal his jewelry and run away. He was also a mass murder. So.. this is the kind of guy you worship and call "baba".. BTW, I find hilarious this term, "baba".. how many "babas" do you people have? I have only one lol

[Samandri]

Are you even Pashtun? Do you know what atrocities the Porki army have committed against Pashtuns? As a matter of fact, there is no reason for you to support Porkistan.

I am not a cheerleader of Pakistani army, dont you see me posting videos against fauj and their excesses in waziristan on this forum?.....but it doesnt mean i have to believe that some how Afghanistan's army is stronger than Pakistan's army, in conventional regular warfare.

[Samandri]

Just came across this video on FB.

دوي وايي چي زمونږ يو تن زخمي شوي ويډيو... - Hidayat Ullah Hamidzai | Facebook

Several Pakistani soldiers dead and many others injured. Is this from todays skirmish? If true, wow, we taught Pakistanis a good lesson lol

Its an old video, many soldiers were killed and injured in South Waziristan at the hands of TTP............TTP at their peak, was inflicting very heavy losses on Pakistan army,..... good use of terrain, home advantage and guerrilla tactics, ambushes etc.

[Rooh]

Pakistan Afghanistan War Torkham border Afghan posts on fire after return fire from Pakistan Army - YouTube

[Golden]

UPDATE: Ceasefire already? Which is why these skirmishes on border are waste of lives. Pakistan have decided they will not stop construction of gate on Torkham.

[Manzareh]

Was Ahmad Shah Baba Multani some sort of prophet or what? Why can't people insult him? To me he was a Punjabi warlord, who spent most of his life as a chieftain of a Persianized Turkeman king. Once he died, when his body was still warm, he even dared to steal his jewelry and run away. He was also a mass murder. So.. this is the kind of guy you worship and call "baba".. BTW, I find hilarious this term, "baba".. how many "babas" do you people have? I have only one lol

You don't even have your own damn language its just borrowed from everyone else. Dari LOL. What is so great about you or you're people?? why are you here like a bad smell, what is your objective? all you midget flat headed farsi's are known to be pu55ys the world over..physically you are frail small hairy chinesey men, mentally you are completely passive and one of the most subdue'd people on the planet, to the point of not even being able to trace your race before you were trampled on a short while ago. The only peice of dignity that you have to cling on to is borrowing what the old Persians have raped you with. You farsi's are well known to travel across the world and join the ranks of terrorists like ISIS. What have you contributed to the world? i'm not talking about Iranian people i'm talking about you Iranian wannabes that have become persianised due to being breeded by mogoloids/persians..what do you have to show? you are not accepted by Iranians they frown upon you, you cant call your self an afghan either because the term is synonymous with Pashtuns.. so who are you in the grand scheme of things?

Lets have a competition - put you're tajiki-afghan accomplishments down in a list with the name of notable figures in modern history, and i'll put a list of Pashtuns and what they have accredited to society, lets see who is worth more globally.

[Manzareh]

Just came across this video on FB.

دوي وايي چي زمونږ يو تن زخمي شوي ويډيو... - Hidayat Ullah Hamidzai | Facebook

Several Pakistani soldiers dead and many others injured. Is this from todays skirmish? If true, wow, we taught Pakistanis a good lesson lol

What do you mean WE, all of sudden it's WE lol you aint a Pashtun your a shia northern allience pu55y, there is no 'we'

[DaZahroJaam.]

REPLYING TO AZMAL,

bottom line is that a proper border has to be established. afghans will benefit from it more than the pakistanies. as to where this border should be established, that is a matter that can be discussed by the leaders of both governments, not these men that are dying senselessly on both sides.
i just read somewhere that there has been a ceasefire and that now that gate is being constructed. under which circumstances, we don't know but if they had discussed that in the beginning rather than firing at each other, these men that died or got injured on both sides, would be alive today.
and i am sorry if this hurts anyone but whether pakistan is allowing terrorists or breeding terrorism, it's happening on the boundaries of where the durand line has been drawn up to a good portion of nangrahar and mainly because of this border issue. i know afghanistan has alot on it's plate at the moment but we need to prioritize. all the talibs and isis are hiding there. how can afghanistan or pakistan (even if they wanted to) control this area if wars are being declared on issues like this??

the subject of national security is a joke in afghanistan until the matter of the durand line conflict is resolved.
afghans are being emotional and pakistanies are being diplomatic upfront and conniving behind everyone's back. this makes us look very very bad.
sure, fight with all that you have but be smart about it.
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[Azmal]

REPLYING TO AZMAL,

bottom line is that a proper border has to be established. afghans will benefit from it more than the pakistanies. as to where this border should be established, that is a matter that can be discussed by the leaders of both governments, not these men that are dying senselessly on both sides.
i just read somewhere that there has been a ceasefire and that now that gate is being constructed. under which circumstances, we don't know but if they had discussed that in the beginning rather than firing at each other, these men that died or got injured on both sides, would be alive today.
and i am sorry if this hurts anyone but whether pakistan is allowing terrorists or breeding terrorism, it's happening on the boundaries of where the durand line has been drawn up to a good portion of nangrahar and mainly because of this border issue. i know afghanistan has alot on it's plate at the moment but we need to prioritize. all the talibs and isis are hiding there. how can afghanistan or pakistan (even if they wanted to) control this area if wars are being declared on issues like this??

the subject of national security is a joke in afghanistan until the matter of the durand line conflict is resolved.
afghans are being emotional and pakistanies are being diplomatic upfront and conniving behind everyone's back. this makes us look very very bad.
sure, fight with all that you have but be smart about it.
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I just read your first sentence...first thing you need to know is the border is already established---Indus river--historical, actual, natural, cultural and racial border. We in Afghanistan are not greedy we simply want what is rightful ours. Also suggest you check 90s news, going by memories then Taliban interior minister Mullah Abdul Razaq had visited the Mohmand region (same place Pakistan want to build gate and wall)and had issued Afghan ID to the people there. As I have mention before Mohmand area now controlled by Pakistan did not included in original Durand treaty but it was later in 1896-7 that British took it over—after rebellion of Mohmand tribes—check it out. The fact is Pakistan is the aggressor here who is not accepting Durand treaty. This drama is all political….Pakistan has been totally isolated by killing of Mullah Mansur near Quetta and the presence of Pakistani passport in which he was traveling…listen to Pakistani nonsense claims--- which sadly you are also repeating here (seriously we Pashtuns are our own worst enemy.) do you honestly think terrorist use border crossing to get in and out? Do you think all the weapons, bombs and rockets that come from Pakistan crosses into a border post under nose of Afghan border police? The issue here is not terrorist, I have mention it before---the head of sneaks are living in luxury inside Pakistani big cities—just like OBL..the issue is political---Pakistan knows for a fact that Afghanistan have objected and will object to building wall on Durand line….they are using this opportunity to easy the world pressure.

[Azmal]

A injured Pakistani troops being treated by ANA medic.