Arabic should become the single official national language in all muslim countries

[Daryeh]

Not a huge fan of KSA at all but all this anti-Saudi hysteria is annoying and hilarious. I know plenty of Europeans talking BS against Saudis and admiring Kurds. Most of them don't even know whats the difference between both, they have never met any Saudi or Kurd,.. but for some reason they are always trying to lecture you.

I used to live in UAE. Never been to KSA but I am met many of them. On weekends, holidays,.. Saudis from Damam, Riyadh, Jaddah,.. used to come Dubai. Most of them were nice people, quiet educated and not fanatic at all. I used to hang more with Saudis than with Iranians (I find northern Iranians extremely arrogant and white wannabes. Southern Iranians are damn nice people).

Northern Iranians are not actually Persian and barely Iranian. Most are Persianised Azeri Turks, southern Caucasians like Armenians and Georgians (many of whom were brought to Iran as sex slaves) or mixed Iranian/Caucasian groups like Mazandarani or Gilani.

[Firdousi]

Northern Iranians are not actually Persian and barely Iranian. Most are just Persianised Azeri Turks, southern Caucasians like Armenians and Georgians (many of whom were brought to Iran as sex slaves) or mixed Iranian/Caucasian groups like Mazandarani or Gilani.

From Teheran northwards Iran is mainly Azeri and Kurd. Mazandarani and Gilani people consider themselves Persians despite being a different tribe. I have many friends from Sari and Nekaa. They f*cking hate people from Semnan lol

Azeris are Turkifized Iranians. Most of them have light skin. Real Turks look like Hazaras, Uzbeks, Hazaras, Uygurs, and so on. Still Turks from Tabriz are not that bad. Persians from Tehran are embarrassing arrogant white wannabes.

[Daryeh]

From Teheran northwards Iran is mainly Azeri and Kurd. Mazandarani and Gilani people consider themselves Persians despite being a different tribe. I have many friends from Sari and Nekaa. They f*cking hate people from Semnan lol

Azeris are Turkifized Iranians. Most of them have light skin. Real Turks look like Hazaras, Uzbeks, Hazaras, Uygurs, and so on. Still Turks from Tabriz are not that bad. Persians from Tehran are embarrassing arrogant white wannabes.

Yes... it's true that real Turks are in Central Asia but they're still classified as Turkic people though, as are Turkish people. They speak a Turkic language, although they are genetically and culturally Caucasian, closely related to Armenians, with much genetic and cultural influence from Persia which historically ruled over the Caucasus.

[Qami]

Northern Iranians are not actually Persian and barely Iranian. Most are Persianised Azeri Turks, southern Caucasians like Armenians and Georgians (many of whom were brought to Iran as sex slaves) or mixed Iranian/Caucasian groups like Mazandarani or Gilani.

To Your info, we Armenians aren't caucasians and are much ore related to Iranians than Caucasians. And if You look the closest Iranian populatian to Armenians are western Iranians, some Kurds and Lurs and some central Iranians (but much more rarely). Azeris from Iran are often very different fro Azerbaijanis.
It is strange to say that northern Iranians are persianized Azeri turks, as most Azeris were turkified Talysh, Kurd and some others and it continues up to today that in rural areas somewhere people swth to Azeri.
While in Tehran the opposite happens. But That happens to all Iranians, as Tehran attracts people from any place, so you can find also persianized Baloch in Tehran.
Concerning Armenians, again we aren't caucasians neither part of caucasus.

[Qami]

Yes... it's true that real Turks are in Central Asia but they're still classified as Turkic people though, as are Turkish people. They speak a Turkic language, although they are genetically and culturally Caucasian, closely related to Armenians, with much genetic and cultural influence from Persia which historically ruled over the Caucasus.

The central asians are also mixed, as turks are from their origin, because turks originated as a mix of tribes, and some iranic tribes were among them. but culturally purest turks are in Russia, hey are the Altayans and Tuvans.
And again, we aren't culturally caucasians, educate on Armenian culture dear friend. While azerbaijan has caucasian culture, becaue any are assimilated Lezgins and Lezgic tribes, we aren't.

[Qami]

From Teheran northwards Iran is mainly Azeri and Kurd. Mazandarani and Gilani people consider themselves Persians despite being a different tribe. I have many friends from Sari and Nekaa. They f*cking hate people from Semnan lol

Azeris are Turkifized Iranians. Most of them have light skin. Real Turks look like Hazaras, Uzbeks, Hazaras, Uygurs, and so on. Still Turks from Tabriz are not that bad. Persians from Tehran are embarrassing arrogant white wannabes.

Why do the Gilaks you know hate Semnani people?

[Daryeh]

To Your info, we Armenians aren't caucasians and are much ore related to Iranians than Caucasians. And if You look the closest Iranian populatian to Armenians are western Iranians, some Kurds and Lurs and some central Iranians (but much more rarely). Azeris from Iran are often very different fro Azerbaijanis.
It is strange to say that northern Iranians are persianized Azeri turks, as most Azeris were turkified Talysh, Kurd and some others and it continues up to today that in rural areas somewhere people swth to Azeri.
While in Tehran the opposite happens. But That happens to all Iranians, as Tehran attracts people from any place, so you can find also persianized Baloch in Tehran.
Concerning Armenians, again we aren't caucasians neither part of caucasus.

Why do you say Armenians are not Caucasians? Of course they are. Do you consider Armenians Iranian then? I do consider Azerbaijan and Armenia part of the Middle East, unlike Georgia, since they have so many cultural similarities but that doesn't mean they're not Caucasian peoples.

North western Iranian nationals are close to people from the Caucasus because most ARE Caucasian or at least mixed with them. People in north western Iran are usually Azeri, Caucasian, Kurd or even Assyrian groups who became Persianized. I've come across many Iranians who I thought were Persian but then it appears they have Azeri, Kurdish or other Caucasian "roots".

[Daryeh]

The central asians are also mixed, as turks are from their origin, because turks originated as a mix of tribes, and some iranic tribes were among them. but culturally purest turks are in Russia, hey are the Altayans and Tuvans.
And again, we aren't culturally caucasians, educate on Armenian culture dear friend. While azerbaijan has caucasian culture, becaue any are assimilated Lezgins and Lezgic tribes, we aren't.

Yes Central Asian Turkic people are mixed with the pre-existing Iranian people who lived in Central Asia. But they're more Turkic/Mongol in genes, history and culture than Azerbaijani or Turkish Turks.

Ok, so what do you consider Armenian culture to be based on?

[Firdousi]

Why do the Gilaks you know hate Semnani people?

My friends are from Mazandaran not from Gilan. They have some stereotypes against Semnani people. They consider them uneducated, poor and obnoxious.

Mazandaran is like a paradise: green, wealthy, beautiful,.. while Semnan is a desert. Many Semnanis tend to go to Mazandaran specially during summer time and they use to make some problems.. so thats why.

[salman47]

Why do you say Armenians are not Caucasians? Of course they are. Do you consider Armenians Iranian then? I do consider Azerbaijan and Armenia part of the Middle East, unlike Georgia, since they have so many cultural similarities but that doesn't mean they're not Caucasian peoples.

North western Iranian nationals are close to people from the Caucasus because most ARE Caucasian or at least mixed with them. People in north western Iran are usually Azeri, Caucasian, Kurd or even Assyrian groups who became Persianized. I've come across many Iranians who I thought were Persian but then it appears they have Azeri, Kurdish or other Caucasian "roots".

There's a special look to Caucasians,, they have a very unique skull structure as well(natives of Kafkaz)... And Armenians? They look very very different than their Kafkaz neighbours, with different language, different script and kind of different culture!

Source: I have Friends from Kafkaz tribes(Southern ones).

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Northern Iranians are not actually Persian and barely Iranian. Most are Persianised Azeri Turks, southern Caucasians like Armenians and Georgians (many of whom were brought to Iran as sex slaves) or mixed Iranian/Caucasian groups like Mazandarani or Gilani.

You know a LOT about Iranians. .....are you from Iran?

[Qami]

Why do you say Armenians are not Caucasians? Of course they are. Do you consider Armenians Iranian then? I do consider Azerbaijan and Armenia part of the Middle East, unlike Georgia, since they have so many cultural similarities but that doesn't mean they're not Caucasian peoples.

North western Iranian nationals are close to people from the Caucasus because most ARE Caucasian or at least mixed with them. People in north western Iran are usually Azeri, Caucasian, Kurd or even Assyrian groups who became Persianized. I've come across many Iranians who I thought were Persian but then it appears they have Azeri, Kurdish or other Caucasian "roots".

Dear Daryeh, there areseveral reasons.
Genetically the populations re quite mixed, but the ain core of Arenians patrilineally is related to R1b haplogroup, while caucasians are G or J1 or J2.
But that isn't the main point.
Geographically the ountains in Arenia are part of he Armenian Highland that goes from modern armenia to modern turkey and is separated both geographically and geologically from the Caucasus.
Culturally we are close to Iranians specially as i said the west Iranians (look e.g. on the dances of Armenians, Kurds, Lurs, Bakhtiyars...). Our Phenotype is also uch more related to Iranic people, but not to Caucasian.

It is not hate to caucasians that makes me say that, but simply the differences we have.
I don't have any dislike for caucasian peoples or their culture. But to call us all caucasians is done usually by ignorant russian skinheads.

For sure there are soe assimilated caucasians among armenians, but their culture, raditions and phenotype did never prevail.

Caucasians are usually much more light than us, Our culture is based more on community, while the caucasian is based more on individual.

So there are really big differences on that behalf.

Armenia is now a limited region that borders with two caucasian countries, but if you consider it fro a historical point of view (most of historical Arenia is nowdays east and southeast Turkey), it should be even more evident that our relation to caucasians isquite limited.

[Qami]

My friends are from Mazandaran not from Gilan. They have some stereotypes against Semnani people. They consider them uneducated, poor and obnoxious.

Mazandaran is like a paradise: green, wealthy, beautiful,.. while Semnan is a desert. Many Semnanis tend to go to Mazandaran specially during summer time and they use to make some problems.. so thats why.

Wow, did never notice that, have to ask here my Mazandarani friends about it.
The only group i found Iranians have dislike to or someties even fear, are he Baloch, what is typical for Tehranians and is a fabricated stereotype.

[Qami]

Yes Central Asian Turkic people are mixed with the pre-existing Iranian people who lived in Central Asia. But they're more Turkic/Mongol in genes, history and culture than Azerbaijani or Turkish Turks.

Ok, so what do you consider Armenian culture to be based on?

Armenians are typical Indoeuropeans, both linguisticaly and culturally. And actually Iranic people are among our closest cousins. Howver from ancient times we have our own culture, that is also quite separate from the Iranic one or the Greek one. But we are by roots related.
I don't know if you know, but in more ancient times Armenians and inhabitants of southwest Afghanistan (nowdays Nimrooz) had quite close contacts (that was specially related to the opposition to the establishent of the Sasanian dynasty)

[Qami]

There's a special look to Caucasians,, they have a very unique skull structure as well(natives of Kafkaz)... And Armenians? They look very very different than their Kafkaz neighbours, with different language, different script and kind of different culture!

Source: I have Friends from Kafkaz tribes(Southern ones).

Who are your friends? Lezgi or Georgians ?

The script we use by he way are related to the scripts in southern caucasus (georgian and Aghvanian scripts), but the languages aren't (except some words )