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  • Originally posted by salman47 View Post
    Some don't care, but the ones that do are Lezgi/Lazuri,,,
    Hmm ye the scripts are related, its just that Georgian script looks like a cursive version of Armenian script!
    Also since I am in Turkey, the hate towards Armenians is too high unfortunately!

    P.S. I have no problem with Armenians(I think *u**e* had committed the Genocide against you Cousins(of ours) and most other Population(mostly Linguistic) here!)
    Wow, you know Lezgis in Turkey?!
    Laz are basically Georgians as Hamshenians are Armenians.
    Yes whom turks actually like , they tried and try to exterminate all local peoples. We Armenians are somehow fortunate, on the other hand Lezgis got killed and assimilated and divided, what was much easier to do because of religious questions,
    The ancient georgian script if you search and the Aghvan (Lezgi) script looked very siilar to the Arenian, just the georgian one later evolved into te coursive one and the lezgi one got out of use


    Georgian scripts:








    Aghvan script:



    Armenian script:

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    • Originally posted by Qami View Post
      Wow, you know Lezgis in Turkey?!
      Laz are basically Georgians as Hamshenians are Armenians.
      Yes whom turks actually like , they tried and try to exterminate all local peoples. We Armenians are somehow fortunate, on the other hand Lezgis got killed and assimilated and divided, what was much easier to do because of religious questions,
      The ancient georgian script if you search and the Aghvan (Lezgi) script looked very siilar to the Arenian, just the georgian one later evolved into te coursive one and the lezgi one got out of use


      Georgian scripts:







      Aghvan script:



      Armenian script:



      Btw I like your script, it is very beautiful!
      The current generation of Lezgis are familliar with their Language(don't speak) only, only a few can speak(esp. The Older generation). If it continues like this here, soon there won't be any people called Lezgis! Unfortunately.

      Also ironically, despite the genocide/forced assimilation, the Lezgis(and other non-Turks) are very proud to call themselves 'Türk'!

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      • Armenian Script to Pashto Transliteration

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        The above links have the transliteration document.(can not post pictures because file size is too much)
        I had trouble with one alphabet, Ղ/ղ, how do you pronounce this?

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        • Yea brother, Lezgi is endangered. In Lezgistan itself You hardly find people who speak Lezgi at literature levels. It is a complicated language with a very developed case system (I think they have over 12 cases of declination). I personally love the sound of that language.

          Concerning our alphabets, they are related to some other older and more modern writing systems.
          The letter You asked is actually easy and familiar to You I think. It is pronounced a little like a غ .
          More specific are the differences between t and t', k and k', p and p', ts and tz, ch and tsh, r and r'.
          But some of our sounds are actually common to Pashto.

          The assimilation of locals was very strong during soviet times in Azerbaijan. Stalin created new nations, so many people got assimilated. Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan... all underwent this process. Not that Tajiks were a new nation, but soe non-tajiks have been to assiilated as Tajiks while a big number of Tajiks from Uzbekistan were uzbekized.
          In Azerbaijan that happened to the Lezgis, and is still happening. And also to Tolish, Kurds and Tat. Specially the Tat(people related to Persians) and Kurds underwent this process. E.g. the nowdays president of Azerbaijan is a Kurd by origin.
          Turkey has a good experience on assimilating people too, most of the Turks don't have any Turkic origin, still their identification with the Turkish nation is strong. On the other hand people like Armenians, or the Caucasian nations are more traditional and bound to their ancestry (at least the recent one - i mean some hundred years of ancestry), so we stand in strong contrast to each other.
          The Lezgis are among those nations, that didn't have success after the arrival of religions in their area. They were a tribal state, and not having a centralized system as well as the geographical position destroyed a lot of their lands. They lost the lowlands to Turks (and during mongolian, arabic and persian invasions to each of them). and their ancient culture came into decline (that is why they maybe don't use their own alphabet anymore but instead write in cyrillic).
          The area of nowdays Artsakh (Karabakh) was an area where armenian and lezgi culture and influences overlapped, what can be seen still among the locals living there.

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          • Originally posted by Qami View Post
            Yea brother, Lezgi is endangered. In Lezgistan itself You hardly find people who speak Lezgi at literature levels. It is a complicated language with a very developed case system (I think they have over 12 cases of declination). I personally love the sound of that language.

            Concerning our alphabets, they are related to some other older and more modern writing systems.
            The letter You asked is actually easy and familiar to You I think. It is pronounced a little like a غ .
            More specific are the differences between t and t', k and k', p and p', ts and tz, ch and tsh, r and r'.
            But some of our sounds are actually common to Pashto.

            The assimilation of locals was very strong during soviet times in Azerbaijan. Stalin created new nations, so many people got assimilated. Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan... all underwent this process. Not that Tajiks were a new nation, but soe non-tajiks have been to assiilated as Tajiks while a big number of Tajiks from Uzbekistan were uzbekized.
            In Azerbaijan that happened to the Lezgis, and is still happening. And also to Tolish, Kurds and Tat. Specially the Tat(people related to Persians) and Kurds underwent this process. E.g. the nowdays president of Azerbaijan is a Kurd by origin.
            Turkey has a good experience on assimilating people too, most of the Turks don't have any Turkic origin, still their identification with the Turkish nation is strong. On the other hand people like Armenians, or the Caucasian nations are more traditional and bound to their ancestry (at least the recent one - i mean some hundred years of ancestry), so we stand in strong contrast to each other.
            The Lezgis are among those nations, that didn't have success after the arrival of religions in their area. They were a tribal state, and not having a centralized system as well as the geographical position destroyed a lot of their lands. They lost the lowlands to Turks (and during mongolian, arabic and persian invasions to each of them). and their ancient culture came into decline (that is why they maybe don't use their own alphabet anymore but instead write in cyrillic).
            The area of nowdays Artsakh (Karabakh) was an area where armenian and lezgi culture and influences overlapped, what can be seen still among the locals living there.
            I searched about Lezgis,,, sorry misunderstood them with Lazuri, I thought you guys call them Lezgis, i.e. I was Talking about Lazuris(Kartvelians like Georgians)!
            But now I know similar things are happening to both Caucasian Nations! Unfortunately...

            Its also sad that these beautiful languages will become another Avestan/Tocharian/Bactrian/Sogdian(Lost Languages, no speakers, no translation)

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