Arabic should become the single official national language in all muslim countries

[Forreigner]

We are different but still we should push for more unity. Europeans are also diverse but they have managed to create some sort of unity. So we should do: create an union a la European Union for the Islamic world.

Except Muslim is a very vague term and Muslims are way too different in every level...Europeans are diverse but still very homogenous, genetically, racially, phenotypically, historically, culturally, etc. For this reason a European Unity is like butter on bread, very natural. Now same cannot be said about an "islamic Unity". First off muslim incompasses very diverse and unrelated peoples (Nigerian Muslim vs Indonesian Muslim vs Iranian vs Arab vs Indian Muslim)....culture, lingua, common history and race/genetics have always been far stronger unifying factors than some religion that came to existence 1400 years ago. After all someone can become a Muslim overnight and be Christian or Hindu the next day. You cant change your ethnicity, culture, race, language over night, unlike your religious beliefs, hence why unity based on religioun is a failure.

A Muslim Union places the Arabs on top, but without merit as Arabs are a backwards people with an outdated mentality and will take us all down with them. (Females still banned from aquiring driving license in Saudi Arabia, the stupid Shiism vs Sunni rivalry/hatred etc.)...you are placing your eggs on a weak basket my friend....

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Except Muslim is a very vague term and Muslims are way too different in every level...Europeans are diverse but still very homogenous, genetically, racially, phenotypically, historically, culturally, etc.

Says who?

[Forreigner]

Says who?

Europeans from Norway down to Greece look very similar, similar in culture, etc.

For long time I thought Afghans were middle eastern but after having met a lot of afghanis I observed this to be false. afghanis are central asian. Genetically they are closer to Euros than they are to say mid easterns like Saudis, Palestinian, lebanese, Egyptian etc. (substantially black/negroid admixture)

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Europeans from Norway down to Greece look very similar, similar in culture, etc.

For long time I thought Afghans were middle eastern but after having met a lot of afghanis I observed this to be false. afghanis are central asian. Genetically they are closer to Euros than they are to say mid easterns like Saudis, Palestinian, lebanese, Egyptian etc. (substantially black/negroid admixture)

There's no evidence such a consensus exists.

As someone who has been to Norway and Has friends who are Greek. Greece is a far as you can get as far as culture and genetics from Norway. Your average Greek looks nothing like an average Norwegian. Their food, music and language are totally different. And Afghans aren't Middle Eastern, we're our unique people, but we certainly share overlap, lots of overlap with the Middle East

As for Negroid admixture, sure maybe there is some of that, but you know I've seen your picture. You have curly negroid hair, which suggests you have some Multtao background. So why are you splitting hairs when you have Negroid features yourself? No pun intended. You have curlier hair than my mom's family, and they're from Yemen.

Forreigner ....I think this website has viewpoints more compatible with your views. Maybe you should join. http://www.stormfront.org/

[Forreigner]

There's no evidence such a consensus exists.

As someone who has been to Norway and Has friends who are Greek. Greece is a far as you can get as far as culture and genetics from Norway. Your average Greek looks nothing like an average Norwegian. Their food, music and language are totally different. And Afghans aren't Middle Eastern, we're our unique people, but we certainly share overlap, lots of overlap with the Middle East

As for Negroid admixture, sure maybe there is some of that, but you know I've seen your picture. You have curly negroid hair, which suggests you have some Multtao background. So why are you splitting hairs when you have Negroid features yourself? No pun intended. You have curlier hair than my mom's family, and they're from Yemen.

Forreigner ....I think this website has viewpoints more compatible with your views. Maybe you should join. http://www.stormfront.org/

Yemenis are very negroid admixed, they overlap with somalis and north africans. Of course not saying anything bad about negroid but just saying afghanis are different. In Afghanistan they have a certain group of assimilated people with substantial mongoloid dna called the hazaras and even then an Afghan national unity is very difficult to obtain despite similarity in culture what makes you think there could possibly exist any unity with some people far away in the desert of yemen? That they pray to same god? Lol

Islam with its Arabcentricsm is doomed to fail. People will soob wake up. You dont need to speak Arabic, nor live the Arabic way of life to live a honorable life. Arab worshipping/catering is what forces all these non Arabs to go and blow themselves up in Syria or Iraq...dying for stupid Arab causes like Shiism vs Suniism. The Arabs have ****ed the non-Arabs very deep for milleniums for this Arab devotion to exist.

In the end of the day a European doctor who probably never praid to any deity in lis life who travels to voluntarily help poor people in Africa is more deserving of a place in heaven than a good amounts of muslim arabs, people of muhammad the biggest prophet of god...

[Firdousi]

Except Muslim is a very vague term and Muslims are way too different in every level...Europeans are diverse but still very homogenous, genetically, racially, phenotypically, historically, culturally, etc. For this reason a European Unity is like butter on bread, very natural. Now same cannot be said about an "islamic Unity". First off muslim incompasses very diverse and unrelated peoples (Nigerian Muslim vs Indonesian Muslim vs Iranian vs Arab vs Indian Muslim)....culture, lingua, common history and race/genetics have always been far stronger unifying factors than some religion that came to existence 1400 years ago. After all someone can become a Muslim overnight and be Christian or Hindu the next day. You cant change your ethnicity, culture, race, language over night, unlike your religious beliefs, hence why unity based on religioun is a failure.

A Muslim Union places the Arabs on top, but without merit as Arabs are a backwards people with an outdated mentality and will take us all down with them. (Females still banned from aquiring driving license in Saudi Arabia, the stupid Shiism vs Sunni rivalry/hatred etc.)...you are placing your eggs on a weak basket my friend....

I disagree. Islam is the backbone of our region. Its the only thing that brings all of us together. We should use it as a tool for unity.

Pretty obvious its just impossible to bring all Muslims under one banner. It will never happen. But at least we Middle Eastern and Central Asian Muslims should try to create a common league. I feel close to Iraqis, Syrians, Turks, Lebanese and Iranians. We should use this sentiment in order to bring more political unity.

BTW don't even dare to look down on Arabs. Its hilarious how Afghans are always cursing Iranians, Pakis, Arabs and Turks yet our country is a sh*thole. You are a brainless racist idi*t.

[DaZahroJaam.]

[Forreigner]

I disagree. Islam is the backbone of our region. Its the only thing that brings all of us together. We should use it as a tool for unity.

Pretty obvious its just impossible to bring all Muslims under one banner. It will never happen. But at least we Middle Eastern and Central Asian Muslims should try to create a common league. I feel close to Iraqis, Syrians, Turks, Lebanese and Iranians. We should use this sentiment in order to bring more political unity.

BTW don't even dare to look down on Arabs. Its hilarious how Afghans are always cursing Iranians, Pakis, Arabs and Turks yet our country is a sh*thole. You are a brainless racist idi*t.

I am an Indo Aryan North Indian, I look like Hrithik Roshan. Despite our poverty and slums we have very proudful history and civilization and have contributed massively to world, unlike Arabs who are famous for terrorism and decapitating people, oil money...etc. In the west most ghettos are filled with arabs and people of arab language. You will see them sport long curly beards (not even handsome beards like Taliban, Chechen fighter or High caste Indo Aryan beards, but unattractive curly beards), dress like they are in Arabia and collect welfare money on top criminal activity (worst case Isis soldiers)...not all, but its a noticable trend. Meanwhile indians are engineers and doctors aside from you local 7/11 but at least they integrate and work...Afghans in the west are more like us north Indians in this sense. Hardly seen any Afghanis live in ghettos...

india is today already far superior to Saudi Arabia, and we dont even rely on oil shipment lool

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Yemenis are very negroid admixed, they overlap with somalis and north africans. Of course not saying anything bad about negroid but just saying afghanis are different. In Afghanistan they have a certain group of assimilated people with substantial mongoloid dna called the hazaras and even then an Afghan national unity is very difficult to obtain despite similarity in culture what makes you think there could possibly exist any unity with some people far away in the desert of yemen? That they pray to same god? Lol

Islam with its Arabcentricsm is doomed to fail. People will soob wake up. You dont need to speak Arabic, nor live the Arabic way of life to live a honorable life. Arab worshipping/catering is what forces all these non Arabs to go and blow themselves up in Syria or Iraq...dying for stupid Arab causes like Shiism vs Suniism. The Arabs have ****ed the non-Arabs very deep for milleniums for this Arab devotion to exist.

In the end of the day a European doctor who probably never praid to any deity in lis life who travels to voluntarily help poor people in Africa is more deserving of a place in heaven than a good amounts of muslim arabs, people of muhammad the biggest prophet of god...

Well that's because There are Somalis who are Yemeni citizens. the Arab Yemenis are quite a bit less. You should not comment on cultures you know little about, especially when you could actually pass for a light skinned Somali.No one said you need to forget your own culture or live like an Arab, but you do need to say your Salat in Arabic and you need to follow the Way of Muhammad(saw) to be a proper Muslim.

You're confusing several completely different thing. There's no Arab centrism in Islam we don't recite Arabic because Arabs do it, we recite it because Muhammad(saw) did it. If there was Arab centrism, it would require you to change your language. What's being discussed here is Lingua Franca, not People's native tongues. All the rest of your spiel has nothing to do with Arabs nor Islam; And you changed your earlier argument, before you said Everyone in ISIS is Arab, now you admit Non-Arabs are in ISIS, but are Arab worshipping.

There's no Arab worship in Islam; which is obvious because in Islam you're supposed to worship only Allah(swt) so to worship Arabs would be shirk. You can't argue two contradictory points at the same time. As for who deserves heaven, this is not our job to decide. Ultimately everyone goes to Heaven after spending a period of time in Hell, except the Prophets, Messengers and Saints, who all go straight to heaven. But I noticed you got touchy about Europeans; which I find strange. Allah(swt) has protected Islam and the Qur'an; so we know your belief will not come true. Are you trying to suggest you're more powerful than God? Come on now.

[Firdousi]

I am an Indo Aryan North Indian, I look like Hrithik Roshan. Despite our poverty and slums we have very proudful history and civilization and have contributed massively to world, unlike Arabs who are famous for terrorism and decapitating people, oil money...etc. In the west most ghettos are filled with arabs and people of arab language. You will see them sport long curly beards (not even handsome beards like Taliban, Chechen fighter or High caste Indo Aryan beards, but unattractive curly beards), dress like they are in Arabia and collect welfare money on top criminal activity (worst case Isis soldiers)...not all, but its a noticable trend. Meanwhile indians are engineers and doctors aside from you local 7/11 but at least they integrate and work...Afghans in the west are more like us north Indians in this sense. Hardly seen any Afghanis live in ghettos...

india is today already far superior to Saudi Arabia, and we dont even rely on oil shipment lool

Yeah I guess that explains 1,3 million strong Indian cheap labour in KSA lol

39 Saudi Arabia 0.837
130 India 0.609

| Human Development Reports

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

You cant change your ethnicity, culture, race, language over night, unlike your religious beliefs, hence why unity based on religioun is a failure.
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Race/Ethnicity is even more tenuous than you suggest religion is, because Even if you look at Pashtun genetics, no two Pashtuns have "the exact" same genetics,

You have members here like Loy Moronistan who think he's a "Pure Pashtun", who will split hairs with other Pashtuns based on how light or dark they are like a typical inferiority complex afflicted Desi.. It becomes an infite loop based on effectively trivial details.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I am an Indo Aryan North Indian, I look like Hrithik Roshan. Despite our poverty and slums we have very proudful history and civilization and have contributed massively to world

ACTUALLY; It was the Souith Indians who contributed most of the advancements of India

For example Srinivasa Ramunujan
Srinivasa Ramanujan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

he was one of the world's greatest math geniuses from Madras

Even in Ancient India, Aryabharta was from Assaka in South India and was Non-Aryan.

Aryabhata - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brahmagupta who was from Madhya Pradesh and developed the concept of zero was also South Indian, Non-Aryan.

Brahmagupta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

, unlike Arabs who are famous for terrorism and decapitating people, oil money...etc. In the west most ghettos are filled with arabs and people of arab language.

We should never look at the world through Western eyes. But from the eyes of facts. Arabs have ups and downs. Much of the world is poor now as a consequence of Our foolishness and Western Imperialism.

You shouldn't have inferiority complex and let that define you.

dress like they are in Arabia

Most of the Arabs you speak of are North African I'm assuming, since they are generally under privileged in France and such. Why would they be dressing in Gulf Arab clothing?

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Meanwhile indians are engineers and doctors aside from you local 7/11 but at least they integrate and work...

Well this is largely true from my experiences, but even despite their own achievements, they're treated by dogs by White Europeans.

Hardly seen any Afghanis live in ghettos...

Come to New York or Toronto, you'll see lot who act Ghetto. Most of the Kandaharis, sad to say try to act black. It's disgraceful

india is today already far superior to Saudi Arabia, and we dont even rely on oil shipment lool

In some regards yes , but not entirely.

[Manzareh]

Diet

[DaZahroJaam.]

Diet

[Forreigner]

Yeah I guess that explains 1,3 million strong Indian cheap labour in KSA lol

39 Saudi Arabia 0.837
130 India 0.609

| Human Development Reports

My friend Arabs would be living in tents without the oil shipment. You cant compare Saudi or any Arab country with India...its like comparing a selfmade billionaire with a lottery winner...India has 1 billion people so of course we have poir people who go to make oil money in Saudi or the Persian Gulf...but in the future our middle class will grow eveb bigger, we will become rival to USA and China. Most Arabs are dirt poor dont be fooled by sheikh lifestyle...given the choice most Arabs would rather live in secular christian atheist western countries than their own ****hole countries. saudi arabia a is a ****hole, oil money doesnt change much..