just a small question from all afghan pashtuns.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

Brother, I dont give a sh*t. Persianspeakers in afghanistan use to say "afghan", just like pashtospeakers use to say "awghan". Even your pashtun partners can confirm this.

Your an idiot saying that Persians invented the word or at least "gave" the word afghan to the afghans. Numerous noted scholars say that the name Afghan evidently derives from Sanskrit Ashvaka or Ashvakan, the Assakenoi of Arrian. This view was propounded by scholars like Dr Christian Lassen, Dr J. W. McCrindle, M. V. de Saint Martin, Élisée Reclus etc. In Sanskrit, word ashva means "horse", and ashvaka (Prakrit assaka) means "horseman" , "horse people" as well as "horse breeders". Pre-Christian times knew the people of eastern Afghanistan as Ashvakas (horsemen), since they raised a fine breed of horses and had a reputation for providing expert cavalrymen.

The Greek historian Herodotus mentioned a people called Pactyans, living on the eastern frontier of the Persian Satrapy Arachosia as early as the 1st century BCE, but it remains unknown as to what connection they have with Pashtuns.

The "Makhzan-e Afghān" by Nematullah, written in 1612 CE at the Mughal court in India, traces the Afghan or Pakhtun origin from Abraham. It states that King Saul had a son Irmia (Jeremia), who had a son called Afghana. Upon the death of King Saul, Afghana was raised up by King David, and was later promoted to the chief command of the army during the reign of King Solomon. The progeny of this Afghana multiplied numerously, and came to be called Bani-Israel. In the sixth century BCE, Bakhtunnasar, or Nebuchadnezzar king of Babil, attacked Judah and exiled the progeny of Afghana to Ghor located in the center of what is now Afghanistan. In course of time, the exiled community came to be addressed as Afghan after the name of their ancestor, and the country got its name as Afghanistan.

H. W. Bellew, in his book An Enquiry into the Ethnography of Afghanistan, believes that the name Afghan derives from the Latin term Alban, used by Armenians as Alvan or Alwan, which refers to mountaineers, and in the case of transliterated Armenian characters, would be pronounced as Aghvan.

There are many claims. You can't pick one claim and tell people your claim is the most accurate and everyone should just believe in it. The word Afghan has ancient roots, it's not a Persian word at all. The word holds historical grounds.

[daneshgah]

Making men wear women clothing and then parading them. that's very manly of you. it just shows how desperate you are.
heres is lenin in Tajikistan


"worship me and you will live"

he is pointing at you kabulzada

I find it damn hilarious, lol

[daneshgah]

Your an idiot saying that Persians invented the word or at least "gave" the word afghan to the afghans. Numerous noted scholars say that the name Afghan evidently derives from Sanskrit Ashvaka or Ashvakan, the Assakenoi of Arrian. This view was propounded by scholars like Dr Christian Lassen, Dr J. W. McCrindle, M. V. de Saint Martin, Élisée Reclus etc. In Sanskrit, word ashva means "horse", and ashvaka (Prakrit assaka) means "horseman" , "horse people" as well as "horse breeders". Pre-Christian times knew the people of eastern Afghanistan as Ashvakas (horsemen), since they raised a fine breed of horses and had a reputation for providing expert cavalrymen.

The Greek historian Herodotus mentioned a people called Pactyans, living on the eastern frontier of the Persian Satrapy Arachosia as early as the 1st century BCE, but it remains unknown as to what connection they have with Pashtuns.

The "Makhzan-e Afghān" by Nematullah, written in 1612 CE at the Mughal court in India, traces the Afghan or Pakhtun origin from Abraham. It states that King Saul had a son Irmia (Jeremia), who had a son called Afghana. Upon the death of King Saul, Afghana was raised up by King David, and was later promoted to the chief command of the army during the reign of King Solomon. The progeny of this Afghana multiplied numerously, and came to be called Bani-Israel. In the sixth century BCE, Bakhtunnasar, or Nebuchadnezzar king of Babil, attacked Judah and exiled the progeny of Afghana to Ghor located in the center of what is now Afghanistan. In course of time, the exiled community came to be addressed as Afghan after the name of their ancestor, and the country got its name as Afghanistan.

H. W. Bellew, in his book An Enquiry into the Ethnography of Afghanistan, believes that the name Afghan derives from the Latin term Alban, used by Armenians as Alvan or Alwan, which refers to mountaineers, and in the case of transliterated Armenian characters, would be pronounced as Aghvan.

There are many claims. You can't pick one claim and tell people your claim is the most accurate and everyone should just believe in it.

Dear baluch brother: I dont mind when was created the word "afghan". I dont mind if pashtuns are aryans, jews or hindus. My point is: the modern term "afghan" is used by persianspeakers, but pashtospeakers say "awghanistan". "-stan" is persian and means land, ok? Thats a fact.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

Dear baluch brother: I dont mind when was created the word "afghan". I dont mind if pashtuns are aryans, jews or hindus. My point is: the modern term "afghan" is used by persianspeakers, but pashtospeakers say "awghanistan". "-stan" is persian and means land, ok? Thats a fact.

Then what's the hassle in the forums?

[khushal]

Brother, I dont give a sh*t. Persianspeakers in afghanistan use to say "afghan", just like pashtospeakers use to say "awghan". Even your pashtun partners can confirm this.

your twisting things.
Sanskrit used to write Avghan and since Pashto does not have the V sound, Pashtuns would say awghan. but this is false. we always said "Afghan." because we have the Fay sound.

[khushal]

Then what's the hassle in the forums?

The hassle is that this guy is a Tajik fascist. His dream is to nuke Pashtuns. He hates Pashtuns with a passion. His life work is to defame the Pashtuns. He is a very active person in his goal.

Because the non Pashtuns have accepted the Afghan identity, he is feeling belittled that farsiwans have accepted a pshtun identity because in his mind Pashtuns are a lower sub human people. He cant accept a fact that his farsiwan people have accepted something(in their opinion) below them.

This is his beef with the term Afghan so he is trying to make Afghan a Persian invention so he does not feel belittled and feels that Persians are this "holy superior people"

[daneshgah]

The hassle is that this guy is a Tajik fascist. His dream is to nuke Pashtuns. He hates Pashtuns with a passion. His life work is to defame the Pashtuns. He is a very active person in his goal.

Because the non Pashtuns have accepted the Afghan identity, he is feeling belittled that farsiwans have accepted a pshtun identity because in his mind Pashtuns are a lower sub human people. He cant accept a fact that his farsiwan people have accepted something(in their opinion) below them.

This is his beef with the term Afghan so he is trying to make Afghan a Persian invention so he does not feel belittled and feels that Persians are this "holy superior people"

You are such a funny person. You dont even know me. I dont know that kabulzadah, perhaps you were raped by him. I am not kabuli. Get over it. Move on.

[daneshgah]

Then what's the hassle in the forums?

Brother, pashtuns dont even have the letter "f". They dont use it. Ergo "afghan" can not be a pashto word, ok?

[M17ArnoBaloch]

Brother, pashtuns dont even have the letter "f". They dont use it. Ergo "afghan" can not be a pashto word, ok?

Really?

i think they do nigga. their alphabet has "fe".

btw I'm not saying afghan is a pashto word, but it aint a persian word either.

[daneshgah]

Really?

i think they do nigga. their alphabet has "fe".

btw I'm not saying afghan is a pashto word, but it aint a persian word either.

No, they dont.

Anyway, doesnt matter. BTW a good friend of mine is a baluch from Quetta. I love your people. Wish you all the best.

[rednwhite99]

You want me to be banned because you can not face the truth.

he thinks me n u are same

[daneshgah]

he thinks me n u are same

lol. Actually he thinks we are all that kabulzada guy lol

Let them be. Where are you from?

[rednwhite99]

not really, they wrote it down and that particular written material survived and discovered, it does not mean they used it for the first time. you sure like to twist things.

The Europeans wrote down Ojibwa for the first time but that does not mean Europeans gave that name to the Ojibwa tribe, the Ojibwa tribe called themselves that. Just like when the Afghans and the English met for the first time. The Pashtuns called the English engrazon and the English called the Af-gh-ans Afgans because they could not say the "Gh". Your an Idiot.

mate some of u also have signatures like persians called us afghans indian called us pathans and we call ourselves as pashtun..pashtun is the best word .. afghan is so old and was referred by persians for the frst tym so we have to accept it that afghan is a persian word. the reason is at that time there was only persians and arabs who were famous scholars while other ethnicities were nt tht prominent in terms of writing things down. ..
pathan is also not an indian term if thats the case ,.

[rednwhite99]

More and more garbage comming from this guy. If I say your mom is a hore (even if she is) saying I was not being offensive is your example.

Afghans and Afghanistan have 4000 year old history. The origin of the word Afghan has hundreds of claims. What you're doing is picking the most "offensive" claim that will most likely have the pashtuns spark on you. The pashtuns are not the best people to mess with.

do u even know what u r talking abt .. even true persians(not tajiks or fake iranians) dnt have 4000 years old ..where did u com up with this bs terms.. man i dont know do u have ur own wikpedia britanica or selfmade google..dnt make bs ....

[rednwhite99]

I read that article before. The article is clearly saying The Pashtuns are trying to get rid of this practice by a few corrupt shinwaris but the US with the help of your baighyrat people are preventing the Pashtuns to protect those women.

With this article your strengthening my point of how baighyrat your people are because this is happening to those poor women because your people have bent over for foreigners and are too baighyrat to fight your own battles. your people are selling your women and your own arses to have the protection of foreign troops to continue your baighyrat corruption.

Here is your panjshiri defense minister molesting children:
Afghan interior minister Kabul بچه بازی بسم الله Ù…Ø*مدی وزیر داخله - YouTube[/URL]

yes you could see this guy in the vid committing a horrible crime against children:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismillah_Khan_Mohammadi


This is your ghyrat.

pashtuns are more respectable people than tajiks and the iranians.. this is a fact