just a small question from all afghan pashtuns.

[ډګروال]

Well to be honest there was no afghanistan before 1800s and the land(afghanistan land and frontier) was divided amongst pashtuns and khorasanians.,..so u mean to say as there was no afghanistan there were no pashtuns or pakhtuns bfr 1800s(as refered by u that pashtuns are the ones who belong to afghanistan)..cmon u cant deny the reality ..pakhtuns were refered as afghans by persians but they themselves refered themselves as pakhtun or pashtun(the best words..)..afghan is a persian word for pakhtuns and u are not accepting ur own pashto word pashtun in contrast to afghan which is a known persian word..(instead u are angry at pakistani pashtuns who are refereed sometimes as pathan which is also a word similar to afghan but given by other group of people)
and u need to respect every culture as stated in islam that dont make fun of anybody elses religion or else they will make fun of ur religion.
truth is u just want ur point of view to be accepted not anybody elses as u think that u r superior to other people whether they are black, asians, indians,etc.

sorry i cant accept your lies and wikipedia knowledge.
Afghanistan exists for longer and i know you are a troll.



i leave you with the poetry of Khsuhal khan Baba.
د افغان په ننګ می وتړله توره
ننګیالی د زمانی خوشحال خټک یم


"I have Taken Up The Sword To Defend The Pride Of The Afghan,
I Am Khushal Khattak, The Honorable Man Of The Age."

[khushal]

Now i know that alot of pashtuns here are from afghanistan and they love their country to death... i am not here to hurt somebody but i just have a small question in my mind but before that i will take ur permission and i would really appreciate if people dont start bombarding me with hatred comments .this is just a small thing that came in my mind.
Now i know that afghan pashtuns use afghan terms or most precisely ethnic afghan term for pashtuns and when pak pashtuns dont accept this term u call them Urdu ghulam but when pak pashtuns reply that u afghan pashtuns urselves are heavly influenced by persian, alot of of afghans deny it .
Now if i come to the real point the word afghan itself is a persian word and persians use to say it to anything related to pashtuns in the past(just befroe tajiks hazara and uzbek became afghans too).. pashtuns in afghanistan have even given a name(afghanistan) to their country on basis of persian language. Now i just wanted to ask so when indians use to call pashtuns pathans why u guys hate the word pathan but not hate the word afghan which is given by persians..
secondly dont u think that afghan pashtuns have been heavily influenced by farsi culture? and afghan pashtuns should not say things like urdu ghulam to pakistan pashtuns and not hate the word pathan too..

Before anybody answers its my humble rrequest that its just a question that came in my mind i dont mean to offend anybody
Thankyou

This is the biggest BS I have ever read Kabulzada. Since it is coming from you, its not a surprise. Afghan is not farsi dumbass. your showing your desperation and low self esteem because farsiwan in Afghanistan have taken the "afghan" identity and you want to figure out a desperate way to claim afghan as a farsi word. hahaha

There are many Persian, indic, western, Chinese historical references and sources that have mentioned afghans living west of the indus, and these sources claim that its the people themselves calling themselves afghan.

Also afghans are not influenced by farsi culture, your language is heavily influenced by Arabic in Iran and heavily influenced by Russian in Tajikistan. Its the Afghans that protected your language and you should be grateful because Farsi's last stand is in Afghanistan.

Plus patan is taken from patan kot which is were the afghans were camped before the invasion of india commenced.

[rednwhite99]

i dont know man

than it seems to be a quoted insult.
also im not per se garam damaagh and if someone from hindu culture(indians and pakistanis) call me that i wont mind . for a pakhtun to call me pathan and also portray me garam damaagh and stereotypical is a different story.

i respect you but expect you also not try to malign me and call me pathan and stereotypical.

i dont know mate what u r getting offended about but the things that u r saying in degradatory manner are being read by alot of people from different ethnicities and to be honest u r not helping in any manner but what u r doing is creating hatred amongst people of other ethnicities about afghan pashtuns..
u will find alot of pshycos who will read ur comments and are gonna express their hatred on poor afghan refugees in their countries and u dont want that ..u r making people to generalize about u n ur people which is harmfull for ur people if not for u

[ډګروال]

i dont know mate what u r getting offended about but the things that u r saying in degradatory manner are being read by alot of people from different ethnicities and to be honest u r not helping in any manner but what u r doing is creating hatred amongst people of other ethnicities about afghan pashtuns..
u will find alot of pshycos who will read ur comments and are gonna express their hatred on poor afghan refugees in their countries and u dont want that ..u r making people to generalize about u n ur people which is harmfull for ur people if not for u

first off al introduce yourself mr troll.

secondly are you threatening Afghan refugees?

[tor_khan]

i dont know man

than it seems to be a quoted insult.
also im not per se garam damaagh and if someone from hindu culture(indians and pakistanis) call me that i wont mind . for a pakhtun to call me pathan and also portray me garam damaagh and stereotypical is a different story.

i respect you but expect you also not try to malign me and call me pathan and stereotypical.

C'mon Daggawarwaala. Lag 'garam' kho ye We've spoken about this before.

I view you in the (mostly) positive even though you sometimes give me a headache.

[rednwhite99]

This is the biggest BS I have ever read Kabulzada. Since it is coming from you, its not a surprise. Afghan is not farsi dumbass. your showing your desperation and low self esteem because farsiwan in Afghanistan have taken the "afghan" identity and you want to figure out a desperate way to claim afghan as a farsi word. hahaha

There are many Persian, indic, western, Chinese historical references and sources that have mentioned afghans living west of the indus, and these sources claim that its the people themselves calling themselves afghan.

Also afghans are not influenced by farsi culture, your language is heavily influenced by Arabic in Iran and heavily influenced by Russian in Tajikistan. Its the Afghans that protected your language and you should be grateful because Farsi's last stand is in Afghanistan.

Plus patan is taken from patan kot which is were the afghans were camped before the invasion of india commenced.

Read this i havent written it for sure its written by some afghan and even though wikipedia is not a good sources but u can google the afghan term which was used by persians for mentioning pashtuns..
patan kot reference is not even credible..
i am not farsi

[rednwhite99]

first off al introduce yourself mr troll.

secondly are you threatening Afghan refugees?

i am a poor pakistani and secondly i am not threating afghan refugees. who am i to threaten them, they are muslim brothers ....but its u who is making their lives more difficult as people have started using more internet and they will respond to ur comments full of hatred towards them

[rednwhite99]

Read this i havent written it for sure its written by some afghan and even though wikipedia is not a good sources but u can google the afghan term which was used by persians for mentioning pashtuns..
patan kot reference is not even credible..
i am not farsi

Afghan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[khushal]

As for Farsi, it is a developed, well established language, both in terms of literature and politics and has influenced many languages and cultures in the region, including Urdu which in its purest form borrows -according to some estimations - close to 60% of its vocabulary from Farsi anyway.

This is actually a myth Tor Khana. Farsi is not as developed as they make it out. It was at one point in history but not any more. Pashto is actually a much richer language than Farsi is. Farsi has been heavily influenced by Arabic, After the Arabs went to Persia and the golden age of Islam commenced, the Persian language slowly died out. All Scholarly work like research and development and most literature was done in Arabic. Farsiwanan in Afghanistan and Iran cant even say thank you without using Arabic or good night without using Arabic. 50% of farsi is actually Arabic and the common words that Pashto use with farsi is all Arabic. The irony is that when farsiwana hears a Pashtun use a word that he(farsiwanan) use, he thinks ist Farsi but in reality its Arabic.

Also Farsi and Arabic has almost equal influence on Urdu.

[khushal]

Read this i havent written it for sure its written by some afghan and even though wikipedia is not a good sources but u can google the afghan term which was used by persians for mentioning pashtuns..
patan kot reference is not even credible..
i am not farsi

Wikipedia is BS especially when its comes to afghan history because Tajik fascist like yourself corrupt it. give me some credible source and Ill refute it.

[khushal]

The best pathan cant even count in pashto. Enough said.

The best farsiwan cant say hello in farsi or good night in farsi. enough said.

[ډګروال]

c'mon daggawarwaala. Lag 'garam' kho ye We've spoken about this before.

I view you in the (mostly) positive even though you sometimes give me a headache.

زه د تیلی غوندی صفت لرمه
چه سر می و موږی نو اور واخلمه
په هغی اور کښی می دښمن رانیسم
د خپل د هر بدل تری پور اخلمه

[khushal]

Afghan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

well your own source claims the word afghan was mentioned in hudud al alam in 982 by an Arabic historian and encyclopedia iranica claims that

The term "Afġān" has probably designated the Paštūn since ancient times. Under the form Avagānā, this ethnic group is first mentioned by the Indian astronomer Varāha Mihira in the beginning of the 6th century in his Brhat-samhita."

[rednwhite99]

well your own source claims the word afghan was mentioned in hudud al alam in 982 by an Arabic historian and encyclopedia iranica claims that

In the 3rd century, the Sassanids mention a tribe called Abgân,[4] which is attested in its Arabic form (Afġān) in the 10th century Ḥudūd al-ʿĀlam.[5] It probably derives from a Sanskritic tribal name, Aśvaka, used in reference to the Kambojas in antiquity
Sassanids were persians.. mentioning all information should be the first priority mate.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

The best farsiwan cant say hello in farsi or good night in farsi. enough said.

This is about mixing other languages with Pashto.

Farsiwans do have greetings in their own language. But it is ascribed to zoroastrian faith.

I am talking about Pathans of Pashtunkhwa. Even the leaders of ANP can't count in Pashto.