Tajeeks want to partition Afghanistan in Mazar

[torkham]

i am sure that you were around when i posted my original respons to your reply this morning. you had no reaction to it until i changed the nature of it to get even with the person who was constantly deleting my posts that had nothing offensive in them.
that you chose to ignore replying to those but have managed to jump in so quickly and defend your "character" in this one, we will not speak of. as for everyone's knowledge of my character traits, not only you but no one from this forum will ever manage to get anywhere near to it.
i will tell you the jokes, all you have to do is laugh. if you don't, i will be highly offended. so far as i see, we all have our roles right.
good night

No you are wrong D, I hadnt seen your original undeleted insults, though it wasnt difficult to guess it must have been your characteristic best. I am certain no one in the forum aspires your infamy.

the issue isnt about traits really (that was used to understand your rationale for being so insulting). the issue is clearly about the fact you blowed; blowed insult 'beghairat', and repeated the insult in your post because original was moderated. Trading insults is easy with impunity of an internet forum.

you did not respond to issue raised in the post [what some people were saying about Atta] but responded ad hominem, calling me beghairat. for what? which part had you witnessed or read in my post to suggest that. you were not privy to that meeting, i had not disclosed names or details [that would be off topic].

you have been a silly girl, blowed silly remarks, and now what? lets trade more insults than deal with topic? Like admin khan said, people at MIT get busy with research and we here bicker amongst each other - good job DZJ!

now i suppose you are canadian and in canadian culture respect of elder or seniority or choice of insult is not meritocratic, so understandably, you as a canadian are free to address people as you feel fit, but you do that in afghanistan, some one will b****slap you, so be careful, unless you like a good slapping.

[torkham]

apologies for my language.

[DaZahroJaam.]

No you are wrong D, I hadnt seen your original undeleted insults, though it wasnt difficult to guess it must have been your characteristic best. I am certain no one in the forum aspires your infamy. wrong

the issue isnt about traits really (that was used to understand your rationale for being so insulting). the issue is clearly about the fact you blowed; blowed insult 'beghairat', and repeated the insult in your post because original was moderated. Trading insults is easy with impunity of an internet forum. wrong

you did not respond to issue raised in the post [what some people were saying about Atta] but responded ad hominem, calling me beghairat. for what? which part had you witnessed or read in my post to suggest that. you were not privy to that meeting, i had not disclosed names or details [that would be off topic].

you have been a silly girl, blowed silly remarks, and now what? lets trade more insults than deal with topic? Like admin khan said, people at MIT get busy with research and we here bicker amongst each other - good job DZJ!

now i suppose you are canadian and in canadian culture respect of elder or seniority or choice of insult is not meritocratic, so understandably, you as a canadian are free to address people as you feel fit, but you do that in afghanistan, some one will b****slap you, so be careful, unless you like a good slapping. yawn


it's funny because the minute i called you a name, he chose to stop deleting it. so you accusing me of having done it over and over again makes it obvious that you clearly deserved it. i felt a little bit guilty for taking my anger on you instead of him, now i don't. thank you.

[MostafaM]

I stopped deleting your posts because I have other things to do in life.
I can´t be online 24/7.

And I wanted everyone to read what you say indirectly and directly.

I could delete your posts now but what is the purpose of that?

You have to grow up at one point.

[DaZahroJaam.]

i will grow up when i come across someone who does not assume i meant to be demeaning towards someone in a post that had nothing of that nature to it. i will be respectful towards an individual (whether he is older or younger than me) if he does not accuse me of being disrespectful towards him because i tend to have certain characteristics, regardless of me assuring him otherwise.
you want to play victim like a little 5 year old but expect me to respect you like an elder because you happened to be born whole lot longer than i have, tough luck. not happening. you want to play victim, i will arrange for it. and clearly, i don't care what that makes me.

[SiiNii]

lets not pretend that the northern's call for for federalism is any different than what the tribal-gov't relationship has been in the past. independence from the central government and to be able to manage their own affairs. you can't be for the de facto tribal partition from the central gov't while being against minority wishes for the same.

that said, these northerners don't want to be directly controlled by a pashtun government which is understandable but there has never been any call for partition from afghanistan. people like to create drama for no reason, its silly and contributes to ethnic conflict.

though i am against any federalism whatsoever be it from pashtun tribes or minorities.

In your opinion, what would be the ideal form of gov't for Afghanistan? Would it change after coalition forces leave?

[torkham]

fair enough

young people who dont remember 200 yrs of them getting fed by us, think uncle sam will protect them forever

i aint worried

This is precisely the reason of their bravado, the security they feel is with with american presence and the cash that is being accumulated. This cash gives the young 'turks' amazing superpowers, and a feeling of invincibility - hence the bravado.

[ډګروال]

This is precisely the reason of their bravado, the security they feel is with with american presence and the cash that is being accumulated. This cash gives the young 'turks' amazing superpowers, and a feeling of invincibility - hence the bravado.

Grana wrora
peopel like this KGODB are nothing but apologists.
all they do is find some excuses to justify crimes commited against Pukhtana.
right now there is a massgenocide of Pashtuns underway and this person is telling us how they are fed with us for 200 years.

are they fed with us because of :
-our kings speaking their language in court and gov.
-their culture flourished and was protected in AFG while in tajokistan they worshipped lenin and calling themselves massodov and ahmadov there is no more tajik culture over there.(the same for uzbek,turkmen)
-maybe because we gave their language a national status and spoke to them in their language to make them feel comfortable.


what people such as this apologist want from us is to accept our genocide because we are too many which hinders them from ruling.Or maybe this apologist want us to close our eyes to the attrocities committed by these warlords who use their ethnicities to hide behind.

it is extremely shameful

when a house of uzbeks were raided and people killed a while ago by foreign forces all of them came out to the streets and showd their frusterations and showd they cared.While we have these fakeshtun apologists who make excuses even when pashtun girls are raped by these warlords or foreign forces.Obviously to this apologist and that Dagholojaam they deserve it because hey they are fed with us for 200 years so they can go ahead and rape with impunity.

[ډګروال]

This is precisely the reason of their bravado, the security they feel is with with american presence and the cash that is being accumulated. This cash gives the young 'turks' amazing superpowers, and a feeling of invincibility - hence the bravado.

Grana

just waite and you will see that the haqdaar qill get his haq.
this lashmak guys wont make it a day in AFG without their bachabaz daddies.
they will eb running for dubai and i hope they be than arrested and brought before a court for the crimes they committed against Afghan nation and their assets should given to the Afghan nation as well.

[Tjanaparh]

what a waste of time
dear Tjanaparh i dont want to engage with you in a discussion regarding Pashtuns.
but i will tell you that your outlook isnt that of us as we see al muslims as brethern and not as you would put it "united under race or nationlism"

You are right! I am not the person to discuss to in that case. But i do not put anything with race, what i tell is from your comments as well, i am not for the nationalism as you see it, i thought we cleared that already twice. For me I see every trouthful person as brother.

[KGODB]

Grana wrora
peopel like this KGODB are nothing but apologists.
all they do is find some excuses to justify crimes commited against Pukhtana.
right now there is a massgenocide of Pashtuns underway and this person is telling us how they are fed with us for 200 years.

are they fed with us because of :
-our kings speaking their language in court and gov.
-their culture flourished and was protected in AFG while in tajokistan they worshipped lenin and calling themselves massodov and ahmadov there is no more tajik culture over there.(the same for uzbek,turkmen)
-maybe because we gave their language a national status and spoke to them in their language to make them feel comfortable.


what people such as this apologist want from us is to accept our genocide because we are too many which hinders them from ruling.Or maybe this apologist want us to close our eyes to the attrocities committed by these warlords who use their ethnicities to hide behind.

it is extremely shameful

when a house of uzbeks were raided and people killed a while ago by foreign forces all of them came out to the streets and showd their frusterations and showd they cared.While we have these fakeshtun apologists who make excuses even when pashtun girls are raped by these warlords or foreign forces.Obviously to this apologist and that Dagholojaam they deserve it because hey they are fed with us for 200 years so they can go ahead and rape with impunity.

shereen gola, khapa kega ma

there is a difference between being an apologist and understanding symptoms so we can recognize the treatment

pashtuns have historically committed crimes against others, and we need to recognize this and rectify

just as how non pashtuns over the last 10 yrs have committed crimes against pashtuns and this needs to be rectified

so we need to choose a proper path forward of mutual respect and forgiveness

if u want to rally pashtuns around the sword then they will do the same, and even if we win what will be our victory? Pakhtana rolling into a bombed out depleted Kabul like in 96?

Wrora its easier to destroy then build

[Khostai]

this partition story is just waste of your times.
here is the answer
Shahzad Adeel - Ma Ba Tu'em ( we are with you ) new Afghan song 2012 - YouTube
Shadkam's New Song - Watandar - YouTube

why do you listen to this Haram music, aren't your taliban banned music and you are pro-taliban????

[ډګروال]

shereen gola, khapa kega ma

Irrelevant rant

there is a difference between being an apologist and understanding symptoms so we can recognize the treatment.

no you are just i mentioned you.You think it is ok for Pashtuns to suffer and massacred because you are trying to endorse some ethnofascist anti pashtun rhetoric that pashtuns have oppressed these minorities.

pashtuns have historically committed crimes against others, and we need to recognize this and rectify

utter bull**** and attempt to justify the genocide and try to malign pashtuns.
this all to have pashtuns be oppressed and second class citizens in their own country. You obviously mean some president or king who might have committed crimes but not just against your favourable ethnicities but they also oppressed and displaced pashtuns as well.Thus it was their own king/president who did it. But if you want to go that lane than lets talk about Timor Lang ,Changezies,Safavids.By your logic i must sayu hazaras committed crimes against pashtuns in the time of the mongol hordes.Nice try at your jew tactic but you fail.

just as how non pashtuns over the last 10 yrs have committed crimes against pashtuns and this needs to be rectified

and you want to rectify it by allowing some warlords in key position ,otherwise what? threats of civil war? didnt think so.
and it hasnt been exclusively non Pashtuns vs pashtuns,such non sense has been propagated in the last decade.You want us to believe that Sayaf ,karzai are leaders of pashtuns while warlords and criminals such as ahmad zia masood,mohaqiq and others are leaders of their ethnicities?
Your dream of margenalising Pashtuns and our language is not going to come true.

so we need to choose a proper path forward of mutual respect and forgiveness

wow so now when crime is done against pashtuns than you are seeking forgiveness while at the same time you talk about 200 years of being fed up with us.I personally dont take these warlords as representatives of their ethnicities as the majority of Pashtuns ,tajiks,hazaras,uzbek etc do not condone the genocide of Pashtuns or take the road of ethnofascism.

if u want to rally pashtuns around the sword then they will do the same, and even if we win what will be our victory? Pakhtana rolling into a bombed out depleted Kabul like in 96?

so according to you it is ok that Pashtuns be denied their rights and their genocide should be condoned? Who said about war etc, it is typical of people such as you who think Pashtuns should accept margenalisation and their rights denied otherwise civil war? you think we should give up on our language,give up on our fair share in government in resources etc and have sons of these warlords to rule us?
IN YOUR DREAMS.

Wrora its easier to destroy then build[/QUOTE]

wrora than why are you propagating destruction?

[ډګروال]

why do you listen to this Haram music, aren't your taliban banned music and you are pro-taliban????

you are a puta

[KGODB]

Irrelevant rant


no you are just i mentioned you.You think it is ok for Pashtuns to suffer and massacred because you are trying to endorse some ethnofascist anti pashtun rhetoric that pashtuns have oppressed these minorities.


utter bull**** and attempt to justify the genocide and try to malign pashtuns.
this all to have pashtuns be oppressed and second class citizens in their own country. You obviously mean some president or king who might have committed crimes but not just against your favourable ethnicities but they also oppressed and displaced pashtuns as well.Thus it was their own king/president who did it. But if you want to go that lane than lets talk about Timor Lang ,Changezies,Safavids.By your logic i must sayu hazaras committed crimes against pashtuns in the time of the mongol hordes.Nice try at your jew tactic but you fail.


and you want to rectify it by allowing some warlords in key position ,otherwise what? threats of civil war? didnt think so.
and it hasnt been exclusively non Pashtuns vs pashtuns,such non sense has been propagated in the last decade.You want us to believe that Sayaf ,karzai are leaders of pashtuns while warlords and criminals such as ahmad zia masood,mohaqiq and others are leaders of their ethnicities?
Your dream of margenalising Pashtuns and our language is not going to come true.


wow so now when crime is done against pashtuns than you are seeking forgiveness while at the same time you talk about 200 years of being fed up with us.I personally dont take these warlords as representatives of their ethnicities as the majority of Pashtuns ,tajiks,hazaras,uzbek etc do not condone the genocide of Pashtuns or take the road of ethnofascism.


so according to you it is ok that Pashtuns be denied their rights and their genocide should be condoned? Who said about war etc, it is typical of people such as you who think Pashtuns should accept margenalisation and their rights denied otherwise civil war? you think we should give up on our language,give up on our fair share in government in resources etc and have sons of these warlords to rule us?
IN YOUR DREAMS.

Wrora its easier to destroy then build

wrora than why are you propagating destruction?[/QUOTE]

i dont know what the fukk youre talking about buddy. Youre going off on a sideways rant, I aint following you there. My points were pretty self explanatory. Your whole rant is a bunch of straw man arguments about things you think I said.