What to do with pseudo-Pashtuns?

[єѕαρχαι]

Wild presumptions. I am a Sufi Muslim. Political sovereignty in no way is antithetical to Islam. Pashtuns were and will be Muslims whether they live in one state or another.

There is no space for racism in islam. You cant wage a war on the basis of ethnicity.

[Toramana]

There is no space for racism in islam. You cant wage a war on the basis of ethnicity.

Sher Khan wror Jana, where do you see racism in my posts? We are discussing a political matter i.e., the definition of Pashtuns as a political community. Don't bring Islam in this. Counter me with arguments.

[Mutakhasis]

Sher Khan wror Jana, where do you see racism in my posts? We are discussing a political matter i.e., the definition of Pashtuns as a political community. Don't bring Islam in this. Counter me with arguments.

Haha you've failed an already failed thread

You were preaching paganism in other threads and now you're separating Islaam from your daily life

You're an odd ball

[Nadir Shah]

There is no space for racism in islam. You cant wage a war on the basis of ethnicity.

Malgariya, we are not waging any war on the basis of ethnicity. We want our rights. It is those who are depriving us of our rights and oppressing us who are to blame for any bloodshed/casualties that may occur in the future.
Also, I would like to remind you that most of the Moslems I meet justify the Palestinian suicide bombings of innocent Isreali civilians are justified because they have no other means of defending themselves. Why should this not apply to the Pashtuns?

[Toramana]

Haha you've failed an already failed thread

You were preaching paganism in other threads and now you're separating Islaam from your daily life

You're an odd ball

A Hizb-ul-Tehrir goon in waiting to suicide bomb a thousands infidels for the lustful and eternal company seventy two hoors (and lots of ghilmans as well) can't understand what is being said here...So this diatribe...

[Nokia_Apridy]

akhhhhh da topic khu ma na wu ledlay kha.....TORMANA khana nu da ta start kray rasha chay kenu za ao ta yaya .......

Serf zma na ba Tpos kway.......

Ka Za Pakistanay wam nu Sa ba Wi .......Zma yo Tapos ta chay sumra

kway waka........

[єѕαρχαι]

Malgariya, we are not waging any war on the basis of ethnicity. We want our rights. It is those who are depriving us of our rights and oppressing us who are to blame for any bloodshed/casualties that may occur in the future.
Also, I would like to remind you that most of the Moslems I meet justify the Palestinian suicide bombings of innocent Isreali civilians are justified because they have no other means of defending themselves. Why should this not apply to the Pashtuns?

Israelis are jews. Panjabis are not

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Israelis are jews. Panjabis are not

Did jews fight in ethnic clashes with your people or Muhajirs urdu speakers did? Did Israeli jews stop your people from entering as IDPs? Speak within context. If Israel does wrong we condemn it, and if someone else does it (including Pashtuns) we condemn it as well.

[єѕαρχαι]

Did jews fight in ethnic clashes with your people or Muhajirs urdu speakers did? Did Israeli jews stop your people from entering as IDPs? Speak within context. If Israel does wrong we condemn it, and if someone else does it (including Pashtuns) we condemn it as well.

I am talking with respect to islam.
Islam doesnt support wars on the basis of ethnicity .

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I am talking with respect to islam.
Islam doesnt support wars on the basis of ethnicity .

The point still stands, one must speak in context. Whether against islam or for it.

BTW I don`t support ethnic violence either.

[muhsina]

Dear kharai sister dont try to ignite Afghans against us. Your motive here seems to be creating rift between Pashtuns living on both sides of durand. As non-Pashtun it may be a fun and game for you to turn Afghans against us but dont forget that we have same blood and blood always speaks. You know very well that your people (hindkis) are extreme Pro-Pakistanis yet you have the guts to call us confused, neuorotic deactivated and retarded.....

I just intend to show you a mirror of how your political stance and those of others who think alike are against the life long struggle of your brave ancestors ,to whom you are bringing a shame by calling yourself Pakhtun but at the same time believing in and propagating concocted and propaganda oriented ideas of Punjabi propagandists.

The Pakhtun mother-soil which is still occupied brought you up not to serve those who have enslaved your nation and looted your resources for decades but to liberate her sons and daughters intellectually and physically from the clutches of enlsaving imperialist Pakistani thoughts and its ruling elite.

[Fareed Khan]

There are some people here who down-play the importance of Pashtun identity and try to replace it with Paaakkkki identity? We all know Pakistan is an artificial entity and couldn't be a substitute for the 2000+ years of Pashtun identity.

What should this forum do with such people? Should these people be considered enemies? Are these people curable?

And...why is this bothering you so much. I was born in Quetta, Pakistan, was that my fault or God's!???

Now, here in England (being a student here) I do identify myself proudly as Pakistan being my national identity & Afghanistan being my ethnic identity. What about the asian youth that was born here, ie. British Asians.

I'm truly & over-whelmingly surprised & to say, disappointed by what some of you had to say about this, shoot "us" one by one, go to some psychiatrist (how intellectual??). The more i try to connect with my actual origin (being afghanistan) the more i get repelled by the citizens of that country. Now wouldn't that be being dis-loyal/betrayal to the land that's feeding me now, or the land that's given birth to me. Oh yeah, not gonna get into the old fuss of Durand Line, don't care if it was some Afghan leader or a "paaaaakiiii" one that cheated his own people or what so ever it was (find out who made the deal to sell that piece of land to the British Empire of that time and added it to Pakistan of the future???).

See so many Afghan "immigrants" (if not all) who keep bullying us "paaaakiiiss" by calling us "daal-khor", swearing at Pakistan and going all emotional & bull****ting about their lame historical knowledge.

My bottom line for this would be, Respect, since what goes around, comes around. If you'ren't paying respect to others, you definitely have no respect for yourself, your land/country, either!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

And...why is this bothering you so much. I was born in Quetta, Pakistan, was that my fault or God's!???

Now, here in England (being a student here) I do identify myself proudly as Pakistan being my national identity & Afghanistan being my ethnic identity. What about the asian youth that was born here, ie. British Asians.

I'm truly & over-whelmingly surprised & to say, disappointed by what some of you had to say about this, shoot "us" one by one, go to some psychiatrist (how intellectual??). The more i try to connect with my actual origin (being afghanistan) the more i get repelled by the citizens of that country. Now wouldn't that be being dis-loyal/betrayal to the land that's feeding me now, or the land that's given birth to me. Oh yeah, not gonna get into the old fuss of Durand Line, don't care if it was some Afghan leader or a "paaaaakiiii" one that cheated his own people or what so ever it was (find out who made the deal to sell that piece of land to the British Empire of that time and added it to Pakistan of the future???).

See so many Afghan "immigrants" (if not all) who keep bullying us "paaaakiiiss" by calling us "daal-khor", swearing at Pakistan and going all emotional & bull****ting about their lame historical knowledge.

My bottom line for this would be, Respect, since what goes around, comes around. If you'ren't paying respect to others, you definitely have no respect for yourself, your land/country, either!

Fareed stop pouncing for no reason, the original poster is from Pashtunkhwa. If you identify as a Pashtun then why would you be called a dhaal khor. I can speak for myself that being from Pashtunkhwa, no one from Afghanistan ever called me a dhaal khor, they knew me as one of them. BTW there are enough Pashtunkhwa Pashtuns here that swear at Pakistan....so no need to over generalize.

[Afghan_Soldier]

BLS,

People like you live in our hearts and gives us more spirit.
A.Soldier