What do Pakistani Pashtuns mean when they say Lar aw bar yaw Pakhtun

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Havi I already said that our nationhood shouldn't be based on others. If that is what Tajiks, Uzbeks, Uigers, turks, etc want, then they will have to struggle for it themselves. If they wish to be a part with us, they are welcome. This isn't hypocrisy, it is common sense.

[pashtun_rise]

Havi I already said that our nationhood shouldn't be based on others. If that is what Tajiks, Uzbeks, Uigers, turks, etc want, then they will have to struggle for it themselves. If they wish to be a part with us, they are welcome. This isn't hypocrisy, it is common sense.

Hhmm...by others you mean? Your lil toramana mentions indic culture alot....and is quite good in diagnosing their diseases.

[Toramana]

You speak about balochistan alot...have you ever been there? .Clonoialism doesnt apply to ones own state.So tell me why are you calling punjabi as paki fascists...while the poor ethnic doesnt even know that lil toraman has such "Grudges" against them.One day you ll claim paki pashtuns are fascists..you yourself mentioned once too.

You havent answered any of my questions.You dont know how to propagate your so called agenda.Ok tell me...what plans you have for your agenda? Try not to deviate from my questions...

I have answered that question but unfortunately it has passed, you not having grasped it ---now I cannot drill it in that butt already filled with and impenetrable to any idea other than Punjabo-Dravidian fascism (Pakistani nationalism). Too much addiction to Punjabo-Dravidian fascism.

Colonialism exist within the same state-you have to think as a Baluchi if you are to see it. But again I say Punjabo-Dravidian fascism has proved to be too cancerous having destroyed the capacity for fair sense.

khapa na shai wror jana da kamai mathaqai yai, aow sa kar larai?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

BTW I have noticed a concerted effort by a few members here pashtun_rise, havi in particular who use every moment to further divide Pashtuns. Most of their posts are empty rhetoric and questionable historical backing. When they have not been able to substantiate their points, they say Afghanistan pashtuns are bullying them, yet the most active replies are from pashtunkhwa Pashtuns...my mind is blown with this almost trolling level of discourse. Keep with this ostrich technique..it has done wonders in FATA, Pata and Baloch areas.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Hhmm...by others you mean? Your lil toramana mentions indic culture alot....and is quite good in diagnosing their diseases.

By others I mean the different nations that surround us. We are Pashtuns and a nation because of our language, history, etc...our nationhood isn't based on others, nor should it be.

[Toramana]

Here you go----here is this other Indic one with the fake name of Pashtun-rise---I wonder why have they to be deceitful to express their opinion?

[pashtun_rise]

I have answered that question but unfortunately it has passed you not having grasped it ---now I cannot drill it in that butt already filled with and impenetrable to any idea other than Punjabo-Dravidian fascism (Pakistani nationalism). Too much addiction to Punjabo-Dravidian fascism.

Colonialism exist within the same state-you have to think as a Baluchi if you are to see it. But again I say Punjabo-Dravidian fascism has proved to be too cancerous having destroyed the capacity for fair sense.

khapa na shai wror jana da kamai mathaqai yai, aow sa kar larai?

Same tick tock of indic theory....

[Shah-i-Kot]

This whole thread made by Havi along with the supposed Pashtun "nationalists" who converse with him reeks of retardation to very high degree.

I personally do not understand how any Pashtun in Pakistan who has some level of morals could ever see the Pakistani Army in a good light.

It was due to Pakistan support, that the NATO war was possible. In the first days of the NATO war, back in October 2001, Pakistan airspace and supply routes were used ALONE for the NATO war. Behold, in this thread, you wont see so-called Pashtun "nationalists" criticizing that. No, they dont a problem with Pakistan Army supporting the NATO war at all.

Hypocrisy

And there is no other reason why Pakistan should be criticized. The state supported the NATO war along with false Pashtun "nationalist" parties. Any other supposed grievance is mere BS designed to justify and support the NATO war..by maligning those who are opposed to the NATO war.

It again is one of the most retarded BS anyone would ever hear, and remains only dinner table discussion among desperado pro-war dogs...

[Toramana]

Same tick tock of indic theory....

You didn't answer my question in Pashto? Is Arooj Khan not there to help you with that?

[pashtun_rise]

BTW I have noticed a concerted effort by a few members here pashtun_rise, havi in particular who use every moment to further divide Pashtuns. Most of their posts are empty rhetoric and questionable historical backing. When they have not been able to substantiate their points, they say Afghanistan pashtuns are bullying them, yet the most active replies are from pashtunkhwa Pashtuns...my mind is blown with this almost trolling level of discourse. Keep with this ostrich technique..it has done wonders in FATA, Pata and Baloch areas.

Really? I think there are many members from afghanistan who use bad lang...they are not under consideration? Many members here who disgrace other ethnics...they are not under consideration? What matters to you is pashtun rise or havi...we never abuse anyone...we did put our points regarding history...but you guys are quite deviated from reality...by the way are pakistani or afghani?? If paki...you should know maj pak pashtuns hate afghanis theory...and if afghani you must know it now...and visit pak.

Our arguments doesnt matter to you guys...only your bullying and a theory that no pak pashtun likes.You people are obsessed.When people dont want to be part of your afghanistan...why so stubborn? I am so surprised at the level of you guys' obsession.Look for afghanistan's other ethnics..they want to be with you guys happily.Leave us alone...we have our own problems...far away from afghanistan.

[Toramana]

Really? I think there are many members from afghanistan who use bad lang...they are not under consideration? Many members here who disgrace other ethnics...they are not under consideration? What matters to you is pashtun rise or havi...we never abuse anyone...we did put our points regarding history...but you guys are quite deviated from reality...by the way are pakistani or afghani?? If paki...you should know maj pak pashtuns hate afghanis theory...and if afghani you must know it now...and visit pak.

Our arguments doesnt matter to you guys...only your bullying and a theory that no pak pashtun likes.You people are obsessed.When people dont want to be part of your afghanistan...why so stubborn? I am so surprised at the level of you guys' obsession.Look for afghanistan's other ethnics..they want to be with you guys happily.Leave us alone...we have our own problems...far away from afghanistan.

Stha sa maram dai, sa wayal ghawarai, lag pa pukhto kai ba oghagaigo, zamunga moranai jaba da?

[pashtun_rise]

This whole thread made by Havi along with the supposed Pashtun "nationalists" who converse with him reeks of retardation to very high degree.

I personally do not understand how any Pashtun in Pakistan who has some level of morals could ever see the Pakistani Army in a good light.

It was due to Pakistan support, that the NATO war was possible. In the first days of the NATO war, back in October 2001, Pakistan airspace and supply routes were used ALONE for the NATO war. Behold, in this thread, you wont see so-called Pashtun "nationalists" criticizing that. No, they dont a problem with Pakistan Army supporting the NATO war at all.

Hypocrisy

We dont deny the atrocities of pak army...but we dont want to be with afghanistan either.Now regarding criticizing that...you can see my links...you can see my previous posts.We pak pashtuns dont like afghans to be killed...but what you guys are doing by sitting in west while your country is in danger? We...are however trying our best to save our country...on our part.Now who 's hypocrite?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Really? I think there are many members from afghanistan who use bad lang...they are not under consideration? Many members here who disgrace other ethnics...they are not under consideration? What matters to you is pashtun rise or havi...we never abuse anyone...we did put our points regarding history...but you guys are quite deviated from reality...by the way are pakistani or afghani?? If paki...you should know maj pak pashtuns hate afghanis theory...and if afghani you must know it now...and visit pak.

Our arguments doesnt matter to you guys...only your bullying and a theory that no pak pashtun likes.You people are obsessed.When people dont want to be part of your afghanistan...why so stubborn? I am so surprised at the level of you guys' obsession.Look for afghanistan's other ethnics..they want to be with you guys happily.Leave us alone...we have our own problems...far away from afghanistan.

Lol..who said they were off the hook? They get infractions and reports against them are dealt with. There you go again...this is a forum for discussion, you are getting Pashtunkhwa Pashtun supporting unity..they may be 10 %, 20 % or 50 % of the society..rather than whine and talk about leaving people alone (which people, their own? They are not allowed to want a different future for their own people). This shows how intellectually broken the idea of Pakistan is to be frank.
Bacha ma pa pekhawar kae sabak waelae dae, altha school tha thlalae yamm da pak studies mae kha waelaa daa..ttol qissae mae owraedalae dee.

[pashtun_rise]

Stha sa maram dai, sa wayal ghawarai, lag pa pukhto kai ba oghagaigo, zamunga moranai jaba da?

Za mara...te zan la pakhtoon waye? Zan la ogora or da khabaro la ogora...za kho ghaigay gam kho sta javabona nishta? Answer my questions first!

[pashtun_rise]

Lol..who said they were off the hook? They get infractions and reports against them are dealt with. There you go again...this is a forum for discussion, you are getting Pashtunkhwa Pashtun supporting unity..they may be 10 %, 20 % or 50 % of the society..rather than whine and talk about leaving people alone (which people, their own? They are not allowed to want a different future for their own people). This shows how intellectually broken the idea of Pakistan is to be frank.
Bacha ma pa pekhawar kae sabak waelae dae, altha school tha thlalae yamm da pak studies mae kha waelaa daa..ttol qissae mae owraedalae dee.

No baba seb! de na bam khabar way che pashtana afghans na khwakha wae.De na bam khabar way che afghanano na sara do nalagay...ka dasay nafrat dasay forum k do ppak pashtana la warkaye....no kar osho.Staso khobona laray...pak pashtana afghanano sara se kar day? Afghanistan ke pa khpala ghurbat de.Khalak mufto ko tanga waye.Bal se khabara mong hm kaval ghwaro kho staso khalak pregday na.Khpal khalak pohay ka.

Pakistan che sangem day...zamonga khwakh de...hm dasay che staso sangay khpal afghanian khwakh dee...hm ka ghalat m wee.