What do Pakistani Pashtuns mean when they say Lar aw bar yaw Pakhtun

[pashtun_rise]

First of all, he is an athiest and secondly, he is a Canadian. Hope that answers your question.

Hhhmm...now thats reasonable...

[pashtun_rise]

I can see here many westernized pashtuns...who are over racist...even to paki pashtuns...

[Toramana]

No you are wrong...he didnt think you are naive.All he didnt know was the kinda response he would get regarding insult to indics even.Toramana...have told you...pak provinces are blended with each other....not 0.5% but 23%.Correct yourself.Besides...the way we have no right to talk about afghans...you too (as an outsider) have no right to take decisions on behalf of pak pashtuns while mostly are not aware of YOUR AGENDA.

Really. Indics are 100% blended with their ethnic kins across Wahga for the past 1 millinuim---Proof, there are as many Indics (Hindustani/Indian Muslims ) in India as in Pakistan---so what then the justification for Pakistan ? And where did that figure come from? Cooked up?

Right now every Punjo in Baluchistan is the target of Baluch wrath. So what is up with the blending? Has it really translated to political harmony and helped subside aspiration for self-rule in oppressed nations? Baluch are the case example. And I bet, Karachi and Sindhis are to follow.

And which country doesn't have such blending? When have diaspora determined the destiny of the mainland communities?

[Toramana]

Toraman why dont you reveal yourself fully? And why dont you visit pakistan...lets c then you can advertise your so called agenda.... .

I will visit my land ---i.e., Pashtun/Afghan Land when I will have to. And I don't need to physically come to Pakistan to declare my agenda. There are groups and parties doing that albeit in a subtle manner. And stop the Punjabo-Dravidian non-sense now.

[pashtun_rise]

Really. Indics are 100% blended with their ethnic kins across Wahga for the past 1 millinuim---Proof, there are as many Indics (Hindustani/Indian Muslims ) in India as in Pakistan---so what then the justification for Pakistan ? And where did that figure come from? Cooked up?

Right now every Punjo in Baluchistan is the target of Baluch wrath. So what is up with the blending? Has it really translated to political harmony and subsided aspiration for self-rule in oppressed nations? Baluch are the case example. And I bet, Karachi and Sindhis are to follow.

And which country doesn't have such blending? When have diaspora determined the destiny of the mainland communities?

Why do you deviate to balochis each time when i grab you from a specific point? I dont like repeating myself...balochs were not educated..their sardars did zulm on them...

Now regarding marriages across the wahga border...whats wrong with that? Millions of muslims are in india.Muhajirs have relatives across each border.You are paki pashtun...you can marry an afghan too .

But wait...you dont consider yourself paki right? Why so care for balochis..uhh? To fit a point for your agenda? Hypocrite.

[pashtun_rise]

I will visit my land ---i.e., Pashtun/Afghan Land when I will have to. And I don't need to physically come to Pakistan to declare my agenda. There are groups and parties doing that albeit in a subtle manner. And stop the Punjabo-Dravidian non-sense now.

Hhmm...can you name such groups or parties?

[pashtun_rise]

So you believe that you have an agenda...So tell me why are you afraid to come to pak? You yourself say you are from pak pashtun land? If not then why presenting yourself as lar pashtun?

[Toramana]

Why do you deviate to balochis each time when i grab you from a specific point? I dont like repeating myself...balochs were not educated..their sardars did zulm on them...

Now regarding marriages across the wahga border...whats wrong with that? Millions of muslims are in india.Muhajirs have relatives across each border.You are paki pashtun...you can marry an afghan too .

But wait...you dont consider yourself paki right? Why so care for balochis..uhh? To fit a point for your agenda? Hypocrite.

That is your opinion about Baluch reflective of the the Punjabo-Dravidic chauvinism of the Central Punjab i.e., we are not the oppressors, sardars are the oppressors---The fact is, so far there have been five Baluch uprisings for liberation - Study history and google-search Baluch---But a Punjabo-Dravidian can have unlimited capacity for dishonesty as you are demonstrating here with that Baluch sardar remark.

And my point in bringing up that 100% blending of Indics in India and the Baluch uprising was to point to the inconsistency of your stance and to underline the fact that the blending means nothing politically---and that diaspora don't determine the political destiny of mainland communities.

But you seem to be high on Pako-Punjabo nationalism/hashish of the Central Punjab to ignore the obvious fact.

[pashtun_rise]

That is your opinion about Baluch reflective of the the Punjabo-Dravidic chauvinism of the Central Punjab i.e., we are not the oppressors, sardars are the oppressors---The fact is, so far there have been five Baluch uprisings for liberation - Study history and google-search Baluch---But a Punjabo-Dravidian can have unlimited capacity for dishonesty as you are demonstrating here with that Baluch sardar remark.

And my point in bringing up that 100% blending of Indics in India and the Baluch uprising was to point to the inconsistency of your stance and to underline the fact that the blending means nothing politically---and that diaspora don't determine the political destiny of mainland communities.

But you seem to be high on Pako-Punjabo nationalism/hashish of the Central Punjab to ignore the obvious fact.

Sardars sons used to study in Achison,oxford etc while poor baluchs were not able to...Anyhow thats not the answer to my question toramana.M still waiting for your answer...while you are quite stuck up with dravido indic theory now...your brain switch to anf fro alot.Come to one point...

[pashtun_rise]

So toramana if you are an athiest...how can this fit in afghanistan's culture..while afghanis are quite stern in their religion ....and how come you wont abandon afghanistan too...since you ve abandoned the title of being in lar pashtuns and the religion too..

[Toramana]

Sardars sons used to study in Achison,oxford etc while poor baluchs were not able to...Anyhow thats not the answer to my question toramana.M still waiting for your answer...while you are quite stuck up with dravido indic theory now...your brain switch to anf fro alot.Come to one point...

Well the sardari system has flourished and been preserved by the patronage system that Punjabo-Dravidic establishment evolved---aim and logic: bribe a few but steal the resources of the whole nation---Alternatively, you can be asked---what is the utility of Paki state if it could not improve the lot of common Baluch and didn't enable them get rid of sardars.

But that is how colonialism works---rule through co-opts/collaborators---and then wash your hands off the responsibility.

And I am using the term Dravido-Punjabi chauvinism because that best describes the mindset of Pako-fascists of the Central Punjab and their cronies (every one can notice the callousness of your sardar remark).

[pashtun_rise]

Well the sardari system has flourished and been preserved by the patronage system that Punjabo-Dravidic established developed---aim and logic: bribe a few but steal the resources of the whole nation---Alternatively, you can be asked---what is the utility of Paki state if it could not improve the lot of common Baluch and didn't enable them get rid of sardars.

But that is how colonialism works---rule through co-opts/collaborators---and then wash your hands off the responsibility.

And I am using the term Dravido-Punjabi chauvinism because that best describes the mindset of Pako-fascists of the Central Punjab and their cronies (every one can notice the callousness of your sardar remark).

You speak about balochistan alot...have you ever been there? .Clonoialism doesnt apply to ones own state.So tell me why are you calling punjabi as paki fascists...while the poor ethnic doesnt even know that lil toraman has such "Grudges" against them.One day you ll claim paki pashtuns are fascists..you yourself mentioned once too.

You havent answered any of my questions.You dont know how to propagate your so called agenda.Ok tell me...what plans you have for your agenda? Try not to deviate from my questions...

[Toramana]

So toramana if you are an athiest...how can this fit in afghanistan's culture..while afghanis are quite stern in their religion ....and how come you wont abandon afghanistan too...since you ve abandoned the title of being in lar pashtuns and the religion too..

If I could guess correctly, that is a sign of "bawasir" ---a very common disease in Indics due to excessive use of spices halwa puri, sari-payai, halim, etc. etc. (all kind of garbage one can imagine).

[pashtun_rise]

And dont cover up for the sins of baloch sardars....everyone is responsible for ones own deeds.Dont put the free_sin theory of christianity.Sardars enjoyed the power while tried their best to let the poor be uneducated...and their slaves.Few were sincere.Majority not.So tell me...why your heart ache for them...while it doesnt for pak pashtuns...?

[pashtun_rise]

If I could guess correctly, that is a sign of "bawasir" ---a very common disease in Indics due to excessive use of spices halwa puri, sari-payai, halim, etc. etc. (all kind of garbage one can imagine).

So you can diagnose your own disease...good...better get to a doctor before its too late to be under operation....since you know lot of punjabi food.