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  • #46
    Stop throwing you favorite move to do: the infamous Fallacy.

    I could do one too: why did the Prophet chop the heads of nearly 700 Banu Qurayza Jews, and enslave their women Instead of pardoning them?

    Thats a fallacious statement and pointless in this discussion.

    At least try to understand what I am trying to say in my post above (#44)

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    • #47
      ????? how is this a fallacy, isn't your argument that alliance with Christians = less Islamic

      right?

      that's YOUR argument, not mine. I just want your feed back on that.
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by کیش View Post
        The more religious the more good things they say about them, the more secular (I dislike this word) the more negative they say.

        .

        This type of argument is like Tabloid "he said she said" variety. Can you honestly take this seriously?
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • #49
          but isn't most of the info we get?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by کیش View Post

            I could do one too: why did the Prophet chop the heads of nearly 700 Banu Qurayza Jews, and enslave their women Instead of pardoning them?
            You keep arguing about what the Khulafa Rashideen did and didn't do; why is a fallacy to discuss our Rasul(saw)? you seem to squirm when we talk about Rasul(saw)'s choices

            is Umar superior to Rasul (saw) in your eyes?
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by faye View Post
              but isn't most of the info we get?
              No
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                This type of argument is like Tabloid "he said she said" variety. Can you honestly take this seriously?
                It's as reliable as your favorite Internet sources. He said, she said in a article.


                Just because you have no sources or family in Afghanistan that can relate stories about the Taliban, doesn't mean you can discredit other peoples.

                Didn't the Prophet also live a simple life, as Umar, and Abu Bakr?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by کیش View Post
                  It's as reliable as your favorite Internet sources. He said, she said in a article.


                  Just because you have no sources or family in Afghanistan that can relate stories about the Taliban, doesn't mean you can discredit other peoples.

                  Didn't the Prophet also live a simple life, as Umar, and Abu Bakr?


                  didn't the Prophet emphasize education and Umar and Abu Bakr

                  didn't Mu'awiyah kill people who were seeking knowledge like the Taliban are?
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • #54
                    Hey, I am not the smart a$$ "Reason through revolution" like you are. Remember my past user name was "Idiot"

                    I do not claim to know anything.

                    So you answer my questions

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                    • #55
                      you did though, remember post #44?
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by کیش View Post
                        I'm telling you I do not know myself. The only thing I could do is keep on continuing reading about how Islam was carried by the four rightly guided caliphs.

                        I am not a Taliban supporter or a hater as I haven't met and talked to any of their members in person. But I know people who have and they are mixed in the matter. The more religious the more good things they say about them, the more secular (I dislike this word) the more negative they say.

                        But the one common ground is that they both say that you cannot belief anything you hear about them through the media. It's a complicated issue, hence why the war will never end.
                        Let's see post #44

                        First paragraph confirms what i just said: I don't know anything, and will keep reading.

                        Second paragraph says the views of people who have been around the Taliban (both the old and new school)

                        Third Paragraph says the common ground.


                        Maybe Farhat Taj Anderson and CNN to you has more credibility than people with ground realities. Khusal and Shadow are both from Afghanistan, yet you belief a hill Billy Americam journalist than their perspective. Would the Prophet belief a Pagan over a believer?

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                        • #57
                          ok fine post 40 then




                          Originally posted by کیش View Post
                          I'm going to get all weird and say if the Taliban were a side in the Battle Of Siffin, which side would they be? Muawiya Ibn Abi Sufyan (who had Christians in high administration positions btw) or Ali Ibn Abi Talib (Stricly Muslims). Remember Ali tried to urge his forces to finish of Muawiya's, even after Muawiya's army wrote Quranic verses on their swords.

                          I hope it makes sense in text
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by کیش View Post


                            Maybe Farhat Taj Anderson and CNN to you has more credibility than people with ground realities. Khusal and Shadow are both from Afghanistan, yet you belief a hill Billy Americam journalist than their perspective. Would the Prophet belief a Pagan over a believer?


                            Would the Prophet support those who claim to be believers but do injustice over pagans who are just?

                            Oh you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to God, even against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be against rich or poor, for God can best protect both. Follow not the cravings of your hearts, lest you swerve, and if you distort justice or decline to do justice, verily God is well acquainted with all that you do.
                            Quran 4:135
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                              ok fine post 40 then




                              That's a question, you also didn't answer it and cried fallacy.

                              I think you said they would Muawiya? Fine, that's a respectable answer, but why would they side with a man who was a staunch anti-Islamic person, who was literally forced by his father Abu Sufyan to convert to Islam? Not to mention a man who was a caliph who was only interested in the riches of this world. Over Ali Ibn Abi Talib, a man who lived in poverty his while life.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by کیش View Post



                                That's a question, you also didn't answer it and cried fallacy.

                                I think you said they would Muawiya? Fine, that's a respectable answer, but why would they side with a man who was a staunch anti-Islamic person, who was literally forced by his father Abu Sufyan to convert to Islam? Not to mention a man who was a caliph who was only interested in the riches of this world.


                                actually you cried fallacy remember? you made a statement and then I asked you about Muhammad(saw)'s alliances with the Masihiyeen Habshiyeen. then you replied with this

                                Originally posted by کیش View Post
                                Stop throwing you favorite move to do: the infamous Fallacy.

                                I could do one too: why did the Prophet chop the heads of nearly 700 Banu Qurayza Jews, and enslave their women Instead of pardoning them?

                                Thats a fallacious statement and pointless in this discussion.

                                At least try to understand what I am trying to say in my post above (#44)



                                Why do you so conveniently avoid the fact Nabi(saw) did this?
                                Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 06-04-2012, 11:12 PM.
                                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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