3 Ghazni elders killed by Taliban after uprising

[badmash_khel]

by Saifullah Maftoon onMay 31, 2012 - 14:54

GHAZNI CITY (PAN): The Taliban shot dead three tribal elders in the Andar district of southern Ghazni province, days after residents rose in arms against the rebels for closing schools and obstructing reconstruction efforts, officials and locals said on Thursday.
The elders were killed on Wednesday evening in the Sarfaraz and Sher Kala areas for their opposition to the Taliban’s activities, resident Abdul Jabbar said.
“The people of Andar don’t want their schools to be closed and reconstruction projects halted. The slain elders supported residents against the Taliban,” he said.
“Two motorcyclists knocked at the house door of Maj. Mirza and then started firing at the door to make a forceful entry,” a resident of Sarfaraz area, Tahir Khan, said. Mirza was injured in the incident and later succumbed to his injuries in hospital, he said.
He said there were reports the Taliban had killed two more elders this morning in the district.
However, Andar district chief Sher Khan Yousufzai denied the slain individuals had any role in the public uprising.
He confirmed Mirza and two others elders identified as Mohammad Ashraf and Hazrat Mohammad were killed by the militants in Sarfaraz and Sher Kala areas. Mirwa was killed by two militants -- Samiullah and Sabir, he said.


Source = http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2012/05/31...after-uprising

[badmash_khel]

I guess Taliban are learning from Bush

"You are either with us or against us"

Seems like the support for Taliban is decreasing so they have to now kill tribal elders to get their way. What has changed?

[Toramana]

In my opinion the tide is turning on them---No longer can they deceive people in the name of Islam.

[Shah-i-Kot]

Pajhwok news has a big credibility issue in reporting the "truth."

Who did the mass poisonings of girl schools?

[Afghanistan2010]

by Saifullah Maftoon onMay 31, 2012 - 14:54

GHAZNI CITY (PAN): The Taliban shot dead three tribal elders in the Andar district of southern Ghazni province, days after residents rose in arms against the rebels for closing schools and obstructing reconstruction efforts, officials and locals said on Thursday.
The elders were killed on Wednesday evening in the Sarfaraz and Sher Kala areas for their opposition to the Taliban’s activities, resident Abdul Jabbar said.
“The people of Andar don’t want their schools to be closed and reconstruction projects halted. The slain elders supported residents against the Taliban,” he said.
“Two motorcyclists knocked at the house door of Maj. Mirza and then started firing at the door to make a forceful entry,” a resident of Sarfaraz area, Tahir Khan, said. Mirza was injured in the incident and later succumbed to his injuries in hospital, he said.
He said there were reports the Taliban had killed two more elders this morning in the district.
However, Andar district chief Sher Khan Yousufzai denied the slain individuals had any role in the public uprising.
He confirmed Mirza and two others elders identified as Mohammad Ashraf and Hazrat Mohammad were killed by the militants in Sarfaraz and Sher Kala areas. Mirwa was killed by two militants -- Samiullah and Sabir, he said.


Source = http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2012/05/31...after-uprising

some contradictions ?

[faye]

Pajhwok news has a big credibility issue in reporting the "truth."

since when do you worry about the source of an article?

[khushal]

most likely local disputes. the only chance for the tide to turn is when the foreign forces leave, until then it will never turn.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

most likely local disputes. the only chance for the tide to turn is when the foreign forces leave, until then it will never turn.

proof?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Pajhwok news has a big credibility issue in reporting the "truth."

Who did the mass poisonings of girl schools?

lol didn't Pajhwok also report that the school poisonings may not have been by the Taliban?

[khushal]

proof?

you have to understand the dynamics. In most villages there are disputes over land, women, resources like water, timber, etc. When these disputes escalate, the warring sides will try to get support either from the government, NATO, Taliban, HIG, or even criminal elements such as extortion gangs, kidnapping gangs, drug dealers. One or both warring sides will use one of these groups to hit their opponent.

During the beginning of the war NATO was bombing innocent people left and right because the villagers were reporting taliban or AQ activity when in reality they were just reporting false accusations and just wanted their opponent to weaken by using NATO against them. Those opponents had nothing to do with the Taliban or AQ.

As far as foreign forces are there, opposition to those forces will be there and the Taliban are the best organized group in the insurgency, so the tide against them is not probable as long as those foreign forces are there. It is probable for it to happen after the foreign forces leave but I think they will be forced to adapt to the peoples demand. They are a product of the afghan society and the foreign forces are not.

[faye]

u.s. military men have admitted that afghans sold innocent people to the americans and they ended up in guantanemo bay. i read $5,000, some were paid.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

you have to understand the dynamics. In most villages there are disputes over land, women, resources like water, timber, etc. When these disputes escalate, the warring sides will try to get support either from the government, NATO, Taliban, HIG, or even criminal elements such as extortion gangs, kidnapping gangs, drug dealers. One or both warring sides will use one of these groups to hit their opponent.

During the beginning of the war NATO was bombing innocent people left and right because the villagers were reporting taliban or AQ activity when in reality they were just reporting false accusations and just wanted their opponent to weaken by using NATO against them. Those opponents had nothing to do with the Taliban or AQ.

As far as foreign forces are there, opposition to those forces will be there and the Taliban are the best organized group in the insurgency, so the tide against them is not probable as long as those foreign forces are there. It is probable for it to happen after the foreign forces leave but I think they will be forced to adapt to the peoples demand. They are a product of the afghan society and the foreign forces are not.

enough confirmation bias, .....demonstrate that this was the situation here? show proof.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I love how Khushal dances around questions and mentions some other situation that happened some other time and uses that as proof that this is what happened in this situation

This guy apparently thinks this is logical. LOL

[کیش]

The better question is who is going to stop them? It seems not even NATO after 11 years can even dent those sons of bytches. And that's the bottom line because the Taliban said so.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

well apparently the Pashtuns are getting back their self esteem and they're stopping them. Hopefully send them back to hell once and for all.