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  • #16
    We know the power and might of pakistan,its army and inteligence agencies.
    5 Taliban occupy,Rawalpindhi HQ of Army.

    If Pakistan supports the afghan taliban,why does TTP is at war with Pakistan,does this not sound unlogic.
    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
      We know the power and might of pakistan,its army and inteligence agencies.
      5 Taliban occupy,Rawalpindhi HQ of Army.

      If Pakistan supports the afghan taliban,why does TTP is at war with Pakistan,does this not sound unlogic.
      Your TTP was wiped out in single operation in swat by pak army. Thousands of talibans were killed. Before that army was delaying operation for sake of US dollers, war on terror. They killed thousands of TTP in bajaur in one major operation and finished bajauri talibans altogather. And they do on and off operations in waziristans, for dollers. Your TTP terrorists kidnap pashtun people for ransom. Every criminal is joining them for fun and loot. Your TTP brothers are targeting innocent pashtun muslims in suicide attacks instead of targeting pak army and NATO...Your TTP terrorists did suicide bomb blast on volley ball match in lakki marwat, killing 120 villagers...because they refused to surrunder their village to your terrorists. When pak army came they wipe out the talibans in one day who were occupying 3 villages. We would continue to enjoy sports and dhol and attan. Your TTP haramis would be defeated either with our lashkars or by necessary evil pak army, who are many times better TTP haramis.

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      • #18
        I just remember the words : pakistan troops busy watching indian porns while fighting taliban in south waziristan.

        lool

        i do not support nor agree with ttp,but its just funny how coward pakistan army really is.

        TTP Raid on Pakistan Army - YouTube
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
          We know the power and might of pakistan,its army and inteligence agencies.
          5 Taliban occupy,Rawalpindhi HQ of Army.

          If Pakistan supports the afghan taliban,why does TTP is at war with Pakistan,does this not sound unlogic.
          The answer to your question is in the fact that the NATO war in Afghanistan is not possible without Pakistan support with ground supply routes and air supply routes. Also, Pakistan has been permitting drone attacks since 2004 from drone bases within Pakistan.

          The Afghan insurgency all know this.

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          • #20
            • Pakistan is the ONLY country that allows lethal supplies to both NATO and the ANA. This allows the Karzai regime to be propped in Kabul up against the will of the Pashtun masses.


            • Musharraf started a war with Waziristan at the request of the America and for US dollars. US said that Waziristan was preventing them from winning in Afghanistan, so Musharraf started a war there, and then lost-- suffering over 5000 Pak army casualties.


            Many academics have concluded that a growing insurgency against Pakistan will continue to exist until Pakistan stops supporting the NATO war.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Luffy View Post
              Lol as if pakistan army is equiped with swords, sticks and kohatay topak. What do you think where 80% of bugdet of pakistan goes to?. If i buy a topak from a shop of dara adam khel , why i wont be able to injure/kill the maker/seller of this topak even if he is equiped with AK47. Do you get my point my american friend?...the only thing that i need is to have courage and aim rightly at the shopkeeper of dara adam khel. I.e you need courage to face america and talibans have that courage, even though they are equiped with basic weapons. And pakistan army is equiped with advanced weapons not with ghulails. Admin khan if i stab you once with made in US knife and once with rusty knife made in somalia, both are going to kill you. The rusty one might give u even tetanus.
              Pa Pakistani med school ki comedy hum dar izda kaye? Pakistan yaw dasey mulk dey che khpal zan highest bidder bandey khars ka ye. Defence my foot.

              Its all about the Benjamins and price.
              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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              • #22
                At this stage, it is becoming increasingly unlikely that Pakistan will be able to open the ground supply routes. '

                This is due to opposition from the public as well as PTI. However, the DPC has become a very powerful block and have made several veiled and violent threats to the establishment.

                Pakistan Army has lost any credibility it had (if it did) due to its ongoing support for the NATO war. It is no longer that powerful than it once was (hiding behind a civilian government). Hence, why it is becoming ever so difficult for them to serve the interests of NATO

                With Imran's victory a given, those air supply routes (only way NATO is getting lethal supplies) will be shut.

                Its been made crystal clear. The era of a Western subservient Army-Civilian government nexus are over

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by lynx View Post
                  • Pakistan is the ONLY country that allows lethal supplies to both NATO and the ANA. This allows the Karzai regime to be propped in Kabul up against the will of the Pashtun masses.


                  • Musharraf started a war with Waziristan at the request of the America and for US dollars. US said that Waziristan was preventing them from winning in Afghanistan, so Musharraf started a war there, and then lost-- suffering over 5000 Pak army casualties.


                  Many academics have concluded that a growing insurgency against Pakistan will continue to exist until Pakistan stops supporting the NATO war.

                  pictures of pakistani casualties from locals available,if any one wants them,but they are not tasty either.
                  High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                    Pa Pakistani med school ki comedy hum dar izda kaye? Pakistan yaw dasey mulk dey che khpal zan highest bidder bandey khars ka ye. Defence my foot.

                    Its all about the Benjamins and price.
                    As an american you are bound to take stand on your country , i respect your patriotism.
                    According to you all pakistanis including 30 million pakistani pashtuns sell their mommies. But mothers are sacred to us, we dont make them arrested for slapping us, we think that jannat lies at her feet. We are not americans who greet each other by saying motherfuka to each other. And remember Even an ant become ferocious when its home is attacked and pakistan army is not an ant, it is a professional army, dont confuse it with your ANA.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                      pictures of pakistani casualties from locals available,if any one wants them,but they are not tasty either.
                      Yes i have watched them but i give credit to the martial spirit of wazirs and mehsuds who whether as talibans or non-talibans have always given toughest resistance to british army and now pak army. Even pak army men admits that waziristanis are nothing like bajauri and swati talibans.

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                      • #26
                        you can nit pick a lot of reasons really, one of the main ones

                        Pak Pop ~ 190 million compare that to Iraq ~ 35 million Afghanistan ~ 36 million

                        Each of these countries they went into, they created a bigger insurgency..Invading a country like Pakistan with that much population you gotta be out of your mind, I'm just talking about like footing the bill alone they wouldn't be able to sustain it.

                        They have that option of limited strikes, which they are already doing with drones but even they have like quieted down a lot on that front

                        plus what with obama wanting to pull out of there by mid-2013 doesn't like they be attackin'
                        It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Talal View Post
                          you can nit pick a lot of reasons really, one of the main ones

                          Pak Pop ~ 190 million compare that to Iraq ~ 35 million Afghanistan ~ 36 million

                          Each of these countries they went into, they created a bigger insurgency..Invading a country like Pakistan with that much population you gotta be out of your mind, I'm just talking about like footing the bill alone they wouldn't be able to sustain it.

                          They have that option of limited strikes, which they are already doing with drones but even they have like quieted down a lot on that front

                          plus what with obama wanting to pull out of there by mid-2013 doesn't like they be attackin'
                          Of course USA could wipe out Pakistan and those 190 million very quickly, within a few months probably, if it was an all out war between them or a world war. That situation is not likely to arise and USA realise there is no great point in limited strikes as it will cause further terrorism. But there is always a chance that USA might yet make strikes into KP before ending their main involvement in Afghanistan to show they can do so if they want.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Wahe Guru View Post
                            Of course USA could wipe out Pakistan and those 190 million very quickly, within a few months probably, if it was an all out war between them or a world war. That situation is not likely to arise and USA realise there is no great point in limited strikes as it will cause further terrorism. But there is always a chance that USA might yet make strikes into KP before ending their main involvement in Afghanistan to show they can do so if they want.
                            you really believe that in your head don't you ..that the US or India can just drop one and that will be the end of it
                            It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                            • #29
                              I am of the same or similar view as khushal.

                              As for an enemy invading Pakistan, well its really easy if the USA wants to do it and the flat plains of Punjab and Sindh are really easy to conquer. The Indic population of Pakistan have been conquered and ruled throughout history and unlike mountains of pakhtunkhwa, punjab and Sindh don't provide terrain advantage to the locals. The Indic locals (punjabis, Sindhis, Seraikis) don't have the same mentality as Afghans who live in harsh conditions with scarce resources so they are born and breed to be tough. Conquering Pakistan is far easier than conquering Afghanistan and pakhtunkhwa. The PAK army is no match for NATO. Have you guys seen how USA totally destroyed the Iraqi army in the first Gulf War? A conventional war against USA is suicide for Pakistan and they are not stupid enough to fight like that. The Pakistani airforce will be defeated in a day. Pakistan has old F16 American planes and the Americans will jam the electronics and shoot them down with ease using their superior F-22 Raptors. Its a joke if anyone thinks the reason USA is not attacking Pakistan is because of Pak army, lol.

                              Even Iran would give USA a far tougher fight than Pakistan.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by badmash_khel View Post
                                I am of the same or similar view as khushal.

                                As for an enemy invading Pakistan, well its really easy if the USA wants to do it and the flat plains of Punjab and Sindh are really easy to conquer. The Indic population of Pakistan have been conquered and ruled throughout history and unlike mountains of pakhtunkhwa, punjab and Sindh don't provide terrain advantage to the locals. The Indic locals (punjabis, Sindhis, Seraikis) don't have the same mentality as Afghans who live in harsh conditions with scarce resources so they are born and breed to be tough. Conquering Pakistan is far easier than conquering Afghanistan and pakhtunkhwa. The PAK army is no match for NATO. Have you guys seen how USA totally destroyed the Iraqi army in the first Gulf War? A conventional war against USA is suicide for Pakistan and they are not stupid enough to fight like that. The Pakistani airforce will be defeated in a day. Pakistan has old F16 American planes and the Americans will jam the electronics and shoot them down with ease using their superior F-22 Raptors. Its a joke if anyone thinks the reason USA is not attacking Pakistan is because of Pak army, lol.

                                Even Iran would give USA a far tougher fight than Pakistan.
                                Atleast you have the decency to differentiate between pashtuns and indic population of pakistan. I agree with your explaination of punjab and sindh as plain areas and difficult to defend. But you are forgetting that these same plain areas were defended from indian ground invasion in 1965 and 1971. Punjab and sindh defence is totaly dependant on pak army , if pak army is totally crushed, they are done...once occupied people of punjab and sindh wont dare to raise against conquering forces..like you said history confirms it.
                                I did'nt say pakistan army would defeat U.S, it would injure and bleed it. The best thing U.S can do is to do heavy bombardment of pakistan. Like talal said ground invasion is not possible without large number of casaulties.
                                And i dont agree with you about iran, iran's military is joke compared to pakistan.
                                Last edited by Michin Khel; 05-22-2012, 06:21 PM.

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