If Pakistan is behind Taliban,why does the US not declare war on Pakistan

[Afghanistan2010]

In the Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Praise be to God, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds,

Allahs Peace and Blessing be upon his beloved Messenger,and his family,And may Allah be pleased with his companions.

I have some questions to think about,

If Pakistan,ISI is behind the socalled Taliban,why does not the US declare war on Pakistan ?

If Osama was found in Pakistan,why did they not engage in war with Pakistan and its intelligence agencies ?

If the socalled Quetta shoura is in Pakistan and Haqqani network is in Pakistan,why do they not bomb Pakistan to pieces ?

Further questions,

If some claim that US is supplying taliban and making up this war to stay there,why people does use the name taliban,why they just not bring America and its allies to the table to tell them you have just made up this war ?

If the socalled taliban are so hated in Afghanistan ( probably not the right place to question,because few afghans are here),why does not the Afghan nation stand up,as it fought the russians to fight the taliban ?

[faye]

well i did read and see a video about the pakistan army being in afghanistan, helping the taliban, when the invasion occured.

attacking pakistan, with it's nuclear arms would be dodgy, i suppose. it looked for a while, as though a lot of undercurrent activity, by outsiders, was happening in pakistan. when all those blackwater dudes were running around. i think pakistan kicked them out.
at that time i thought the americans were going to have an excuse to attack pakistan.

[Michin Khel]

In the Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Praise be to God, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds,

Allahs Peace and Blessing be upon his beloved Messenger,and his family,And may Allah be pleased with his companions.

I have some questions to think about,

If Pakistan,ISI is behind the socalled Taliban,why does not the US declare war on Pakistan ?

If Osama was found in Pakistan,why did they not engage in war with Pakistan and its intelligence agencies ?

If the socalled Quetta shoura is in Pakistan and Haqqani network is in Pakistan,why do they not bomb Pakistan to pieces ?

Further questions,

If some claim that US is supplying taliban and making up this war to stay there,why people does use the name taliban,why they just not bring America and its allies to the table to tell them you have just made up this war ?

If the socalled taliban are so hated in Afghanistan ( probably not the right place to question,because few afghans are here),why does not the Afghan nation stand up,as it fought the russians to fight the taliban ?

Because of defence capabilities of Pakistan, like all arrogant afghans, you wont understand or admit that pakistan army is a strong one for a developing country.
Secondly talibans are not hated in afghanistan , especially in pashtuns. Taliban-haters are those afghans who fled to westren countries after taliban came into power in 1996 , they are few. Unlike TTP,Talibans of afghanistan are clean, focused and are doing their religous and national duty.
Westren Teenagers like you amuses me who show off their religous-ness on internet, which is most probably artificial and copy paste some hadith here and there...

[khushal]

In the Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Praise be to God, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds,

Allahs Peace and Blessing be upon his beloved Messenger,and his family,And may Allah be pleased with his companions.

I have some questions to think about,

If Pakistan,ISI is behind the socalled Taliban,why does not the US declare war on Pakistan ?

If Osama was found in Pakistan,why did they not engage in war with Pakistan and its intelligence agencies ?

If the socalled Quetta shoura is in Pakistan and Haqqani network is in Pakistan,why do they not bomb Pakistan to pieces ?

Good Question,
The US is not interested in dismantling Pakistan not because of its defense capabilities as Luffy states but because Pakistan is the Wests best asset in diverting resources from the middle east and central asia. Without this unnatural obsticle created by the Brits called Pakistan, these resources would naturally flow East towards the worlds biggest market, south asia. With this obsticle, those resources are diverted West towards Europe and North America. The Wests economy depends on Pakistans existence. The brits were not stupid in creating pakistan, it could not leave South Asia with the potential of a Moghul empire from reincarnating which was an economic super power of its time.
What America is interested in is creating another pakistan in Afghanistan. A corrupt regime that relies on western welfare that can sell its people wholesale the way pakistan is successfully doing. keep the pakistani people busy in hating india and keep the Afghans busy hating the pakistanis. divide and rule.

If the socalled taliban are so hated in Afghanistan ( probably not the right place to question,because few afghans are here),why does not the Afghan nation stand up,as it fought the russians to fight the taliban ?

The taliban are indegenous, the afghans are not going to rise up against them while foreign soldiers are present in their country. It is possible they will rise against them when the foreign soldiers leave if they are working against the afghan people. The afghans always unite against the common enemy, once that enemy is gone, then they will deal with each other and root out the evil ones within themselves. Its is how nature works.

[khushal]

Because of defence capabilities of Pakistan, like all arrogant afghans, you wont understand or admit that pakistan army is a strong one for a developing country.
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Yes their defence capabilities are so good that the US gives them their weapons.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Why are Pakis so arrogant..especially when they speak about their army..

[Shah-i-Kot]

Because of defence capabilities of Pakistan, like all arrogant afghans, you wont understand or admit that pakistan army is a strong one for a developing country.
Secondly talibans are not hated in afghanistan , especially in pashtuns. Taliban-haters are those afghans who fled to westren countries after taliban came into power in 1996 , they are few. Unlike TTP,Talibans of afghanistan are clean, focused and are doing their religous and national duty.
Westren Teenagers like you amuses me who show off their religous-ness on internet, which is most probably artificial and copy paste some hadith here and there...

The TTP exist because of Pakistan's involvement and support for the NATO war in Afghanistan- the NATO supply routes at Torkham and Chaman, and the drone attacks.

In 2004 when Mushrraf started a war in Waziristan, the TTP formed as a reaction.

Pakistan's support for the NATO war has resulted in regional instability.

[randolph85]

because getting involved in pakistan is far more messy than getting involved in afghanistan. pakistan doesn't support the taliban out of ideology, they do it because of strategic interests, which means these non religious interests can be bought or manipulated. the americans have been playing the carrot and stick routine with them for a decade now with mixed results. seeing pakistan collapse would be a far bigger foreign policy disaster than just trying to get them to stop supporting anti american elements in afghanistan. the thing is that the paki government and security agencies may be evil but they are not stupid, they know they are "too big to fail" and can afford to keep playing this game with america.

its the same reason america doesn't attack iran for supporting anti US shias in iraq, lebanon, or syria. the aftermath of an attack would be far worse than initial justification.

afghanistan and iraq were supposed to be easy, which we know now isn't what the americans expected. now imagine how hard it would be to attack nations which aren't deemed as easy targets like iran and pakistan.

the world is a chessboard, the americans didn't become a superpower because they are stupid.

[Michin Khel]

^You have always some thing intelligent to say. I like your point of view.

[haviZsultan]

Maybe Pakistan isn`t supporting the Taliban because they have suffered $70 billion in damage to the economy and received only $10 billion in aid. Did that cross anyone`s beautiful mind...

No, only me... :D

[Michin Khel]

Maybe Pakistan isn`t supporting the Taliban because they have suffered $70 billion in damage to the economy and received only $10 billion in aid. Did that cross anyone`s beautiful mind...

No, only me... :D

I think i have seen you on defence.pk, you were using this same signature of badal non-sense.
Pakistan intelligence agencies are supporting talibans in afghanistan...they are playing double game with uncle sam and uncle sam knows it. Haqqani group is one example, there are also other groups.

[khushal]

because getting involved in pakistan is far more messy than getting involved in afghanistan. pakistan doesn't support the taliban out of ideology, they do it because of strategic interests, which means these non religious interests can be bought or manipulated. the americans have been playing the carrot and stick routine with them for a decade now with mixed results. seeing pakistan collapse would be a far bigger foreign policy disaster than just trying to get them to stop supporting anti american elements in afghanistan. the thing is that the paki government and security agencies may be evil but they are not stupid, they know they are "too big to fail" and can afford to keep playing this game with america.

its the same reason america doesn't attack iran for supporting anti US shias in iraq, lebanon, or syria. the aftermath of an attack would be far worse than initial justification.

afghanistan and iraq were supposed to be easy, which we know now isn't what the americans expected. now imagine how hard it would be to attack nations which aren't deemed as easy targets like iran and pakistan.

the world is a chessboard, the americans didn't become a superpower because they are stupid.

They have many options on the table. They can easily invade FATA and parts of KP and baluchistan without destablizing Pakistan. Its not PAkistan instability or the The taliban they are afraid of, its the pashtuns charachter of not succumbing to foreign ways by force. The pashuns in essence have resisted invasions on both sides of the border wheather it is FATA or Afghanistan by the pakistani army or NATO. The differnce between the ISI and NATO is that the ISI is going with the momentum of the pashtun charachter because they are familiar with it and NATO since it has no experience in the region is trying to force its way through like a bulldog.
The only thing the ISI wants is to prevent a replica of itself in Afghansitan who will be a headache for it just like itself is a headache for India.

NATO is outmatched in the region, it has no real allies that share interests. Out of all the parties that are present, it shares more interests with the Taliban than against them. The US/Taliban both loath Iran, Russia, China. The US is currently allied with people that love Russia/Iran and have no beef with China. The equation the US is playing with has no logic. If has not logic than it can not work and as you can see it is not working.

Also the US has no real reason to invade Iran. It wants to attack it to prevent nuclear capabillities but it really is not interested in a regime change. the current iranian regime forces the arabs to kiss the US arse. If they get rid of the current Iranian regime, the arabs might not have any reason to be too cozy with the US. thats why it decided to Invade Iraq vs Iran, they are currently happy with the Irianian regime as long as it is contained.

[Admin Khan]

Because of defence capabilities of Pakistan,

Malgara, you really think the US is scared of a rag-tag, culture-less, history-less, less then 60 year old, 3rd world nation like Pakistan? Remember, the US has strategic interests and as long as Pakistan follows what they say, everything is handy-dandy. The nation of Pakistan have sold themselves to such an extent to the USA, that an American went as far as saying if the price is right, a Pakistani will even sell his mommy. You can use any other excuse, but please keep the defense capability propaganda/nonsense limited to your Pak studies class room. Most of Pakistani hardware is refurbished US military equipment, and a retired US general once told me if Pakistan every disobeys us, they can turn off every F16 that they ever received front the US, and much more that you and I have no clue of. Yaad rakhna Luffy bhai, yeh Amrikey walai olu nahein hain. If Pakistan was so "powerful" it would be a sovereign nation that decides their own fate. Instead, it gets used by China and the west[to an extent where China called it it's Israel], and serves as a headache for it's neighbors. Pakistan should focus on educating it's people before it decides to join the ranks of Canada, France, Germany,etc. The country is plagued with unparalleled corruption.

[Admin Khan]

Maybe Pakistan isn`t supporting the Taliban because they have suffered $70 billion in damage to the economy and received only $10 billion in aid. Did that cross anyone`s beautiful mind...

No, only me... :D

Lol @ $70 billion in damages. You know how many Rupees that is?

Islamabad certainly deserves it since they chose to play with fire, and use us Pukhtuns as their tools. Remember what I previously told in our previously discourse, while a Punjabi is deciding whether to major in CpE or CS in Lahore, or whether to attend LUMS or NUST -- Pukhtuns are busy getting blown up and brainwashed to fight their failed wars against the evil Indians!

[Michin Khel]

Malgara, you really think the US is scared of a rag-tag, culture-less, history-less, less then 60 year old, 3rd world nation like Pakistan? Remember, the US has strategic interests and as long as Pakistan follows what they say, everything is handy-dandy. The nation of Pakistan have sold themselves to such an extent to the USA, that an American went as far as saying if the price is right, a Pakistani will even sell his mommy. You can use any other excuse, but please keep the defense capability propaganda/nonsense limited to your Pak studies class room. Most of Pakistani hardware is refurbished US military equipment, and a retired US general once told me if Pakistan every disobeys us, they can turn off every F16 that they ever received front the US, and much more that you and I have no clue of. Yaad rakhna Luffy bhai, yeh Amrikey walai olu nahein hain. If Pakistan was so "powerful" it would be a sovereign nation that decides their own fate. Instead, it gets used by China and the west[to an extent where China called it it's Israel], and serves as a headache for it's neighbors. Pakistan should focus on educating it's people before it decides to join the ranks of Canada, France, Germany,etc. The country is plagued with unparalleled corruption.

Lol as if pakistan army is equiped with swords, sticks and kohatay topak. What do you think where 80% of bugdet of pakistan goes to?. If i buy a topak from a shop of dara adam khel , why i wont be able to injure/kill the maker/seller of this topak even if he is equiped with AK47. Do you get my point my american friend?...the only thing that i need is to have courage and aim rightly at the shopkeeper of dara adam khel. I.e you need courage to face america and talibans have that courage, even though they are equiped with basic weapons. And pakistan army is equiped with advanced weapons not with ghulails. Admin khan if i stab you once with made in US knife and once with rusty knife made in somalia, both are going to kill you. The rusty one might give u even tetanus.